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[andy6915]

Because to them, submission was preferable to extinction.

So the Geth in ME3 were just robot Sarens?

[SwobyJ]

So the Geth in ME3 were just robot Sarens?

 

Saren only started to really submit to Sovereign once he was indoctrinated, and as we learned, that this happens through his machine implants.

 

So basically becoming more robotic, opens you up to more influence, information, persuasion, co-operation.

 

Saren originally intended to fight the Reapers*. The Geth just wanted to be left alone (until/unless the Quarians peacefully send messages to them), even by the Reapers - except for the smaller Heretic faction of course.

 

The Geth in ME3 are closer to post-Virmire Saren, I guess. Just leaping for whatever they can get, as their destruction (by Quarian or Reaper) is imminent.

 

 

*The older stories tell us of how Saren originally opposed the Reapers, learned more about them and met Sovereign. He endeavored to understand the Reapers and indoctrination, but Shepard's successful opposition to him made him doubt both himself and the Reapers' power. So Sovereign has Saren's implants 'upgraded' (more/different Reaper code? I dunno) and he becomes a mostly fervent believer in the Reapers. If there ever was a previous plan to use Saren for a 'connection between organic and synthetic' (hi Catalyst), it probably would have been lost at that point, as Saren is clearly too desperate at this point and practically begging to be offed - by the Reapers or Shepard.

[Bardox9]

Sovereign: "We are Legion." ... "We are each a nation. Interdependent. Free of all weakness."

 

Not saying Sovereign is Legion, but... well... it was odd coincidence to me.

[SwobyJ]

Sovereign: "We are Legion"

 

Not saying Sovereign is Legion, but... well... it was odd coincidence to me.

 

I'll just say that it is very hard for me to think of Sovereign as full of giant genetic paste tubes like the other Reapers may have.

 

(The Derelict Reaper also seemed to be more highly synthetic based)

[Bardox9]

I'll just say that it is very hard for me to think of Sovereign as full of giant genetic paste tubes like the other Reapers may have.

 

(The Derelict Reaper also seemed to be more highly synthetic based)

I've tried several times to rationalize that proto-reaper thing. Best I can come up with, which even for me is too far out there, is that the Capitol Ships house a cybernetic construct like the proto-reaper in the shape of the race that was harvested somewhere in a sealed portion of the ship yet to be discovered. -That- is the actual Reaper and the capitol and destroyer ships are just that. Ships.

 

As I said, even I don't believe that, but it's the only way I have come up with an explanation of that baby Reaper thing.

[SwobyJ]

Yeah I reason that as well.

 

Its just that we still have no sign of the 'biomechanical' thing in Sovereign. And you know, it fell apart all over the Citadel.

 

And the Derelict Reaper's core looked more like a... geth head.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

But that was its mass effect core we were shooting at with our pistols, not the reaper thing inside it. I still don't think those things were alive. I think they were a VI construct with organic paste in a shell resembling the species harvested. The organic paste was a preserve much like the jar of blackberry preserves in your refrigerator (Marmalade Theory). It was a DNA database and nothing more. It wasn't like the "Intelligence" knew what it was doing with organic life. It was a machine, after all. How could it understand?

 

Then the Intelligence programs each Reaper with this "we are each a nation, free of all weakness" BS, and it bestowed upon the VIs the power to indoctrinate. 

 

I keep seeing this evil child laughing as his toys make monsters out of the organics and turn them into jam. Play time every 50,000 years.

[78stonewobble]

Shepard is very, very interesting to these people and groups. 

 

I wonder why????

 

I have 2 suggestions. 

 

The shepard shuffle is allmost universally (dat asari was crazy and we know jack is) accepted as the highest form of dance. 

The chemical properties of shepards sweat is highly desirable for organics and AI alike.