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[Iakus]

Both EDI and Legion's names are up on the wall. I don't agree. 

Hacket mentions neither.  Nor does he mentions the loss of synthetics at all.  

[AlanC9]

Funny thing, I've seen about dozen variations of Drew's ending, all told by himself. The one in OP is kinda contradictive indeed. I prefer the one where these dark energy problems were result of usage eezero in general, not just biotics. So purpose of cycles is just let the galaxy to cool down and additionally keep one race as living museum with dreadnaught sized ego and demonic voice. This leads to simple choice in the end. Let cycle continue or stop it and watch galactic Apocalypse.
Simple yet cold motivation for Reapers. But I guess it wasn't Philosophical enough.

 

This works better. The obvious problem is that the way to stop people from using eezo is to .... stop them from using eezo. You intervene the moment they develop mass effect drives, not centuries later.

[Iakus]

 

And you're still choosing your flavor of blowback, all with a gun to the head of the council.  

Yes, because the fate of one dreadnought and three politicians is totally the same as all life in the galaxy

[dreamgazer]

Hacket mentions neither.  Nor does he mentions the loss of synthetics at all.  

 

He mentions general losses and the game includes flashes of both.  Again, I disagree.

[AlanC9]

It certainly seemed to think so.  In the short term, at least.

 

There's obviously no danger in the short term, especially in situations where the geth didn't make it past Rannoch. But let's assume there was. Destroy still makes things worse for the Catalyst, since it doesn't do anything the Reapers couldn't do for themselves, and removes their ability to control the situation in the future.

[AlanC9]

Hacket mentions neither.  Nor does he mentions the loss of synthetics at all.  

 

Why should he mention them? He never met EDI or Legion. And why should he care about synthetics any more than ME1 Tali did?

[Ahriman]

The ending we got deals with a problem that has been theorized for over a century though:
 
http://en.wikipedia....cal_singularity

Interesting, yet somewhat different. IMO Bioware just used popular sci-fi plot about rebelous AI while AI in singularity may act in any way and there is no reason to think that AI rebellion is most plausible variant.

[dreamgazer]

Yes, because the fate of one dreadnought and three politicians is totally the same as all life in the galaxy

 

You're deciding the fate of the galaxy with that decision, given the significance of the council and perception towards humans.

 

And we're talking about just Destroy here, along with the similarities and differences between the two situations with guns being held to heads.  

 

Synthesis isn't a required choice. Neither is Control.  But the Reapers need to be dealt with. 

[dreamgazer]

Why should he mention them? He never met EDI or Legion. And why should he care about synthetics any more than ME1 Tali did?

 

Very good point, though he might have met EDI when he boarded the Normandy (either times, in either forms).  

[SporkFu]

Why should he mention them? He never met EDI or Legion. And why should he care about synthetics any more than ME1 Tali did?

But he introduced shep to EDI in ME1 

[Ahriman]

This works better. The obvious problem is that the way to stop people from using eezo is to .... stop them from using eezo. You intervene the moment they develop mass effect drives, not centuries later.

Coming from dark space (with use of eezo) each time someone reaches Relay doesn't sound better. Plus eezo may be used for thousands of years without consequences.

[Jukaga]

Coming from dark space (with use of eezo) each time someone reaches Relay doesn't sound better. Plus eezo may be used for thousands of years without consequences.

 

They could hide dormant inside gas giants of species likely to stumble across Eezo tech. Even then, a demonstration of their power and explanation would suffice rather than obliterating everything. 

[Ahriman]

They could hide dormant inside gas giants of species likely to stumble across Eezo tech. Even then, a demonstration of their power and explanation would suffice rather than obliterating everything.

This way they would reach the point when their numbers will not be enough to look after every race which has eezo in their hands.

[AlanC9]

But he introduced shep to EDI in ME1 

And blatantly lied to Shepard about it.

[AlanC9]

This way they would reach the point when their numbers will not be enough to look after every race which has eezo in their hands.

That's why you don't let races develop starflight.

[Jukaga]

It's not like there are more than 20 species with spaceflight at any one time in the MEU, I think the hordes of Reapers could handle this.

[Invisible Man]

It's not like there are more than 20 species with spaceflight at any one time in the MEU, I think the hordes of Reapers could handle this.

only because the reapers systematically eliminate advanced civilizations every 50,000 years. if they didn't harvest and just "subjugated" those potential spacefaring civilizations, there could be tens of thousands of such civilizations out there, and if they all turned on the reapers... well, I wouldn't take the odds on the reapers staying on top.

[KaiserShep]

That's why you don't let races develop starflight.

I read this in J. Walter Weatherman's voice.

[Iakus]

Why should he mention them? He never met EDI or Legion. And why should he care about synthetics any more than ME1 Tali did?

Because their deaths saved his sorry behind.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

EDI, maybe. The Geth? No.

[SporkFu]

And blatantly lied to Shepard about it.

That was a joke.