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I sort of feel like the options of either Cullen/Dorian plus Iron Bull and Solas would be a "range", though, to be honest. You have your conventionally attractive human, your hyper-masculinized beefcake and your slim, intellectual type. They're all extremely different and that shows in their physical form to a much greater extent than any differences in the women. The problem (for me) is that Varric or Blackwall heavily slants things towards hyper-masculinized. Which is good for people that like that, but not really for people that don't.
So, basically, more variety is good.
Guest_Dropkick Hellion_*
I sort of feel like the options of either Cullen/Dorian plus Iron Bull and Solas would be a "range", though, to be honest. You have your conventionally attractive human, your hyper-masculinized beefcake and your slim, intellectual type. They're all extremely different and that shows in their physical form to a much greater extent than any differences in the women. The problem (for me) is that Varric or Blackwall heavily slants things towards hyper-masculinized. Which is good for people that like that, but not really for people that don't.
So, basically, more variety is good.
I sort of feel like the options of either Cullen/Dorian plus Iron Bull and Solas would be a "range", though, to be honest. You have your conventionally attractive human, your hyper-masculinized beefcake and your slim, intellectual type. They're all extremely different and that shows in their physical form to a much greater extent than any differences in the women. The problem (for me) is that Varric or Blackwall heavily slants things towards hyper-masculinized. Which is good for people that like that, but not really for people that don't.
So, basically, more variety is good.
I don't see hyper-masculinized. Varric is a dwarf with a stocky dwarven body, no facial hair and low cut shirt. Blackwall is a warrior in full armor. Hyper is too strong a word. It seems to me like the forums are not a great indicator- it is prone to histrionics and hyperbole. These women are lovely, but hardly what you would find in most video games. Bioware has done a good job of allowing them to be different types of women physically and in regards to personality. It does a better job with them than the men, but DA2 was an improvement from DAO in terms of moving beyond "men are smelly, stupid, love sex, reticent, and violent." Forunately they are not all gravelly voiced, sullen and covered in 5 o'clock shadow.
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Cassandra's new appearance is a result of two changes happening at once -- one is much higher fidelity the game engine has now when it comes to rendering the faces, while the other is redesign of Cassandra's features.Wait, people don't think the new version of Cass is a huge upgrade? Buh? I'm legitimately baffled by this.
Given the amount of comments about how 'ugly' most (if not all) women of DA:I are, either the attempt at "conventionally pretty girls" was a swing and miss on BioWare's part, or they were aiming at something else.And as far as the women are concerned - there is no range that I can see. It's lopsided, and caters to those who demand conventionally pretty girls.
I don't see hyper-masculinized. Varric is a dwarf with a stocky dwarven body, no facial hair and low cut shirt. Blackwall is a warrior in full armor. Hyper is too strong a word. It seems to me like the forums are not a great indicator- it is prone to histrionics and hyperbole. These women are lovely, but hardly what you would find in most video games. Bioware has done a good job of allowing them to be different types of women physically and in regards to personality. It does a better job with them than the men, but DA2 was an improvement from DAO in terms of moving beyond "men are smelly, stupid, love sex, reticent, and violent." Forunately they are not all gravelly voiced, sullen and covered in 5 o'clock shadow.
Varric is short, but he's extremely masculine. For his size, he's very muscular and broad, as dwarves are. His "chesthair" and "Paragon of Manliness" quips are his hook. He's got very squared, strong features that are associated with masculinity. He gives off a pretty typical "bro" attitude and jokes about women, drinks, etc. He's a classic wingman type. Blackwall is enormous for a human. His base size looks nearly as big as Iron Bull, bigger than other male companions. He's a hardened, weathered, veteran warrior type. He's got rough features and a huge beard. Definitely very traditionally masculine, by any standards I'm aware of.
But I'm not saying, "don't make types like this love interests". I'm saying, don't give us multiples of them instead of variety. People like different things, so it's nice to have varried options, both physically and in personality.
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Cassandra's new appearance is a result of two changes happening at once -- one is much higher fidelity the game engine has now when it comes to rendering the faces, while the other is redesign of Cassandra's features.
You'll probably find the majority approving of the higher fidelity and agreeing *that* part is a huge upgrade, but reactions to the change of her features are more mixed bag. Some may even dislike it to the point where it outweights higher quality of rendering, and so their net reaction is "it's now worse".
Horses for courses and all that.
Cassandra's new appearance is a result of two changes happening at once -- one is much higher fidelity the game engine has now when it comes to rendering the faces, while the other is redesign of Cassandra's features.
You'll probably find the majority approving of the higher fidelity and agreeing *that* part is a huge upgrade, but reactions to the change of her features are more mixed bag. Some may even dislike it to the point where it outweights higher quality of rendering, and so their net reaction is "it's now worse".
Horses for courses and all that.
While the former is true, I was specifically referring to the latter. I believe someone earlier in the thread had an issue with her scar, which I cannot wrap my mind around.
I think this is what happened to Cullen too. He was cute in DA2. He doesn't look ugly in DAI but he doesn't look a thing like Cullen. Also they did something different to his eyes - doesn't feel right...
he's seen a lot of ****...
Blood mages turning people into abominations, an all out war between mages and templars, a mage blowing up a chantry, his commander going batshit nuts bringing statues to life and turning into lyrium....
I'd expect him to gain a more hardened veteran-of-a-lot-of-**** kind of look. thousand yard stare and all that.
None of the female companions is sexy-- they all look terrible to me. The only romance I am interested in at the moment would be possibly Varric since he is a decent character.
None of the female companions is sexy-- they all look terrible to me. The only romance I am interested in at the moment would be possibly Varric since he is a decent character
It's odd that you say you'd romance Varric "because he's a decent character," yet you don't know the other characters. Maybe when you find out they are decent you will want to romance them as well. I don't know if the problem is character design as much as it is we have not played the game.
None of the female companions is sexy-- they all look terrible to me. The only romance I am interested in at the moment would be possibly Varric since he is a decent character.
Josephine looks best and have personality I think I will like.
For me, Dragon Age is more of a game of personalities, rather than eye-candy characters. If I want chainmail bikini supermodel babes, I'd play something else.
All the characters strike me as "organic". They have a distinct and consistent personality, history, behaviour, voice and value system. Their look completes that character well. And while I find some characters more beautiful than others (Vivienne), I find those who do not appeal to me so much physically much more appealing personality-wise (Sera, Bull).
Even in previous games, I liked Isabella and Morrigan because of how they acted and what they said, rather than how they looked.
None of the female companions is sexy-- they all look terrible to me. The only romance I am interested in at the moment would be possibly Varric since he is a decent character.
I'm sure some of the female companions will also be decent characters.
Personally, as a heterosexual cisgendered male, the companion I find the most physically attractive is probably Dorian. That dude is awesome.
Dorian and Josephine are the best good looking characters to me. About the lack of physical variations on female companion, well first they are only three and the male companions are six and second you only have humans and one elves.
If they did more female characters of different races that would not be so different, a qunari and a dwarf would balance things out. I really hope that the rest of the world is better because on physical appearance the female side is lacking really bad.
Obviously the epic endgame choice will be between Dorian's mustache and Blackwall's beard.
The only way to close all fade rifts is to sacrifice Dorian moustache and Blackwall's beard. Oh no I can't make such sacrifice 
For me, Dragon Age is more of a game of personalities, rather than eye-candy characters. If I want chainmail bikini supermodel babes, I'd play something else.
And what other games are you referring to? What games give you eye-candy characters (both male and females)? I certainly can not think of any. I think Bioware games are the only games to have a serious romance aspect, and as such people do want those romances to be physically attractive. Yes, other games have romances but they usually seem to be an afterthought. Romances are not a main aspect.
Bioware games have evolved to the point where the romances have become integral parts of the games, just like Harvest Moon games for example. And of such games, none present actually hot looking characters.
It's easy to say that you'll play "something else", but what else is there? What are these other games you refer to? I'd sure like to know!!
The only way to close all fade rifts is to sacrifice Dorian moustache and Blackwall's beard. Oh no I can't make such sacrifice
I completely agree. If it requires the sacrifice of facial hair to save the world, the world's out of luck on this one. I will say also that if there was a toggle that would give Solas hair I would completely not use it. I'm female IRL so neither facial hair or baldness is cool on a personal level. Just like maybe we need to be brought out of our comfort zones in accepting people's sexuality, maybe we need to take a good look at how we view our companion's appearance. I personally think Solas looks awesome. You can see the intensity of his face better, I think.
I really tip my hat to BW for making believable companions who challenge peoples preconceptions about beauty.
I completely agree. If it requires the sacrifice of facial hair to save the world, the world's out of luck on this one. I will say also that if there was a toggle that would give Solas hair I would completely not use it. I'm female IRL so neither facial hair or baldness is cool on a personal level. Just like maybe we need to be brought out of our comfort zones in accepting people's sexuality, maybe we need to take a good look at how we view our companion's appearance. I personally think Solas looks awesome. You can see the intensity of his face better, I think.
I really tip my hat to BW for making believable companions who challenge peoples preconceptions about beauty.
I'm female IRL so neither facial hair or baldness is cool on a personal level.
I honestly don't understand what is meant by this.
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