520 réponses à ce sujet

[AkiKishi]

hey, maybe ten people are whining, but i'll bet more than that think 'yeah... that guy could use a wig. but hey, i bet BW has given him awesome personality, they usually do' 

 

Edit:

sort of... when you finally meet them in game, the personality and the looks click, making that certain NPC almost a living being (and any mod, adding hair or other minor feature, feels inappropriate)

 

or maybe it's just me?

 

Not really. I've played games where when you meet an NPC you can choose what they look like. Mods pretty much revolve around the same idea. 

[Black Jimmy]

Can you use DA: I images for Varric and Cassandra. They both look very different, so your post could be misleading to those who haven't see their current look.

 

Are Alistair, Zevran, Fenris and Anders only average as well?

[pace675]

The only thing I am seeing wrong here is using a subjective opinion as fact, what might not look good to you does not mean it does not look attractive to another. And using Cassi's pic from DA2 is wholly misleading as I find her in DA:I less attractive, same goes for Varric. Using better images from the better perceived aesthetic game lessens your argument, use the DA:I images of Varric and Cassi and your argument looses steam.

 

Debating an opinion is a loose-loose situation, for one's person Monet is another persons' flushings, can people come to a consensus yes. Then that would be saying that group X trumps group Y opinion while group Z thinks they are both incorrect.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Hello LunSei,

 

Solas and Varric are crushed to hear your opinion of them. May I ask what your gender and/or sexual orientation is?

 

I am a heterosexual healthy female of breeding age and I do not find any of the women overly attractive or pretty by traditional standards. Perhaps Sera would have had a fashion career in the 1950s.

 

I also think all the men are handsomer than Zevran and Sten combined, although the ferous bovine and reflective elf would both benefit from an exchange in head sizes.

 

Pray tell, what are some of your advice for young up -and-coming video game men who are hopeful for your love? Would Varric's pining be satiated by a growth spurt?

 

Above all, always remember, inner beauty is the beautifulest of all.

 

Yours sincerely,

Bufkin

[Bugsie]

You mean, to those whining about something. Which is what, ten people? And most just don't bother to argue. If I had any sense I wouldn't, too. )) The thing is, you just can't please everyone. There always gonna be someone who doesn't like something and stirs up a drama about it.

Yeah people like what they like and people will dislike what they dislike.  *shrugs* some here don't seem to be able to let that go.

 

I think opinions on characters will change once the game is out and we've interacted with the different personalities more.

[Fishy]

Wait to atleast learn more about the character. Maybe that bald elf will be an amazing character and you will end up romancing him !!! Geez are you people that shallow ? Okay I know they're just fictionnal character and you guy want to play on whatever fantaisies you're into . .But seriously .. geez. AM i the only one ?

 

Has for me  (I'm such an hypocrites) .. I think Vivienne's  ugly.. Those monstruous huge lips are scaring the **** out of me. Well once I know the character maybe her huge lips might become very cute. Who know lol.

 

OMG I am creeping myself out now...What the Hell am I doing here. I don't belong here

[Lady Nuggins]

Eh, I might have been inclined to agree at one point in time, because I go for the pretty Fenris-type when it comes to guys.  But I have seen so many people expressing attraction towards many of the male characters, and their enthusiasm is making me see what is appealing about them.  I'm happy that people might get to romance Bara Blackwall, Dorian, or (fingers crossed) Varric.  There is a pretty wide variety of guys this time, so I'm not going to be too choked that my particular specific type isn't around this time.

 

Of course, the fact that I am wildly attracted to Vivienne and Cassandra and am gunning for either of those as romanceable for a female probably helps.

[Inquisitor7]

I am not a troll. I swear.
This is something that has always bugged me a lot about Bioware games.
Dragon Age: Origins felt like it had the equal share of eyecandy for boys and girls of all sexual preferences.
But personally I always felt Mass Effect was definitely sexist. (Anyway, this is not the Mass Effect forum.) I understand what u mean but we have Cullen and Dorian although Dorians mustache is gross

Now I see the companions of this new game, and.... look at the pictures above. Female companions seem clearly designed with "must look hot" in mind, while male characters are plain ugly or average.

I suppose I'm the only lady in this forum who is bothered by this? Are you fellow ladies eager to date Solas or Varric, while your fellow players can enjoy dating Vivienne or Cassandra?

[SilkieBantam]

I am not a troll. I swear.

This is something that has always bugged me a lot about Bioware games.

Dragon Age: Origins felt like it had the equal share of eyecandy for boys and girls of all sexual preferences.

But personally I always felt Mass Effect was definitely sexist. (Anyway, this is not the Mass Effect forum.)

 

Now I see the companions of this new game, and.... look at the pictures above. Female companions seem clearly designed with "must look hot" in mind, while male characters are plain ugly or average.

 

I suppose I'm the only lady in this forum who is bothered by this? Are you fellow ladies eager to date Solas or Varric, while your fellow players can enjoy dating Vivienne or Cassandra?

I'm curious, are looks really that important in a video game romance? 

When I pick my LI's in Bioware games I go with whichever character I enjoy the personality of the most.

 

To me, the romances are ultimately just an excuse to spend a little more time interacting with whichever character I like best.

 

I found Kaidan and Jacob to be very handsome in ME but I went with Garrus as my LI because I enjoyed interacting with him the most. 

I found Sebastian to be the best looking in DA:2 but I romanced Isabela instead because I enjoyed the banter with her more. 

 

They're just characters in a video game, you're not actually sleeping with them and you don't get to see the naked so why does their sex appeal matter? 

[efd731]

Hello LunSei,

Solas and Varric are crushed to hear your opinion of them. May I ask what your gender and/or sexual orientation is?

I am a heterosexual healthy female of breeding age and I do not find any of the women overly attractive or pretty by traditional standards. Perhaps Sera would have had a fashion career in the 1950s.

I also think all the men are handsomer than Zevran and Sten combined, although the ferous bovine and reflective elf would both benefit from an exchange in head sizes.

Pray tell, what are some of your advice for young up -and-coming video game men who are hopeful for your love? Would Varric's pining be satiated by a growth spurt?

Above all, always remember, inner beauty is the beautifulest of all.

Yours sincerely,
Bufkin

Role playing in real life as a flying alcoholic monkey? Huh.
On topic: straight white dude bro here, and I think the companions are pretty well spread out among tastes. I mean, it's not even my cup of tea and yet I'm looking at the bara warden(Blackwall) fans with envy(omg that beard). Just because they aren't to your taste there's no need to make blatant generalizations and sweeping statements on behalf of literally everyone. (Also, varric isn't a good looking LI? That dwarf could look twice as ugly as (you seem to think) he does and still make them clothes* drop)

[LunSei]

Some points I wish to make.

1) There is such a thing as objective beauty, which is different than subjective beauty. Just because a character is found sexy by some, that does not make him objectively attractive by human standards. It's not like someone like Solas, with his "creepy-drug-dealer-in-a-van" look, would be the kind of person that makes people turn their head to admire his beauty. And as I mentioned before, just because the Penguin from the Batman comics has many fangirls, that does not mean he is an attractive character. In the case of characters like Solas, I personally believe what makes him attractive is more the knowledge that he is a romance option rather than his actual looks. Fangirls swoon over Solas because he's a romance option; if those same ladies were to meet a guy like Solas on the street they most likely wouldn't as much as glance at him once.

 

2) Physical attractiveness is extremely important. This is a videogame; no matter how awesome the plot will be, the characters of a videogame need to be heavily defined by their appearance.

 

 

I am still of the idea that the female companions look much more akin to the canonical idea of beauty than the males do, and it makes me feel like, once more, female players get the short end of the stick while the greatest care is put in making the female npc appealing.

[Char]

Some points I wish to make.
1) There is such a thing as objective beauty, which is different than subjective beauty. Just because a character is found sexy by some, that does not make him objectively attractive by human standards. It's not like someone like Solas, with his "creepy-drug-dealer-in-a-van" look, would be the kind of person that makes people turn their head to admire his beauty. And as I mentioned before, just because the Penguin from the Batman comics has many fangirls, that does not mean he is an attractive character. In the case of characters like Solas, I personally believe what makes him attractive is more the knowledge that he is a romance option rather than his actual looks. Fangirls swoon over Solas because he's a romance option; if those same ladies were to meet a guy like Solas on the street they most likely wouldn't as much as glance at him once.
 
2) Physical attractiveness is extremely important. This is a videogame; no matter how awesome the plot will be, the characters of a videogame need to be heavily defined by their appearance.
 
 
I am still of the idea that the female companions look much more akin to the canonical idea of beauty than the males do, and it makes me feel like, once more, female players get the short end of the stick while the greatest care is put in making the female npc appealing.

We have no idea if Solas is a romance option yet all the hype is simply anticipation.

Anyway, dedicated female player here and I'm delighted that there is such a diverse selection of men and women available. I would think that the fact each character already has a dedicated fanbase would be tangible proof that many of the players here find these characters attractive in both looks and perceived personality.
It is easier to categorise the women because they are fewer of them, but they need to be seen as a whole picture- Sera is a rogue who cuts her hair with a rusty dagger, Cassandra is a practical warrior whose design shows her strength of character and resolve. Vivienne is a powerful diplomat in a society where appearances are everything. The designs are reflective of the characters, not of archetypal standards.
This for me makes this the best crafted DA so far.

[AkiKishi]

There is but no one can really agree what it is

 

Voice acting is more important. I still see Claudia Black when I look at the screen and not so much Morrigan.

[Moussey]

It's probably been said before, but I absolutely love the fact that we have a greater diversity of looks for these characters than what we've probably seen from every bioware game ever

If bioware wanted to make a bunch of generic looking pretty white people as their characters like they've done in the past, they could have and it would've went over well.

But I love the fact that they're dedicating themselves to more and more diversity in each game, because people do think differently.

Personally, I think all of the characters male and female have ugly and beautiful traits in their appearance that come out strongly to my eye, so none of them would be my first pick for a magazine cover, but it just make me more excited to get to know them better because ultimately this is a game about character interaction not just romance.

[berelinde]

There is absolutely nothing objective about "objective" beauty. The concept of beauty is shaped by cultural standards and personal experiences, few of which are shared across the entire human race. And, as if that was not enough, opinions will differ based on the sexual orientation and standards of the viewer. Some people will call any woman with more or less regular features beautiful, others require specific traits and any deviation renders them hideous. Poor Solas is held up as an example of homeliness all the time, but it's important to remember that he is an elf. He has a pointy chin and a narrow face because they are racial traits. He isn't as soft-featured as some, but I like the angularity. He looks wicked clever.

 

Speaking only for myself, beauty is a combination of physical appearance and personality. By that, I mean that I appreciate it when their individuality is reflected in their features. Varric is handsome because his broad smile and prominent, chiseled chin convey his confidence, his swagger. Etc. Without knowing more about their personalities, I cannot say that the cast of Inquisition is attractive or not. Going by looks alone, they're all fine.

[RevanFlame]

Some points I wish to make.

1) There is such a thing as objective beauty, which is different than subjective beauty. Just because a character is found sexy by some, that does not make him objectively attractive by human standards. It's not like someone like Solas, with his "creepy-drug-dealer-in-a-van" look, would be the kind of person that makes people turn their head to admire his beauty. And as I mentioned before, just because the Penguin from the Batman comics has many fangirls, that does not mean he is an attractive character. In the case of characters like Solas, I personally believe what makes him attractive is more the knowledge that he is a romance option rather than his actual looks. Fangirls swoon over Solas because he's a romance option; if those same ladies were to meet a guy like Solas on the street they most likely wouldn't as much as glance at him once.

 

2) Physical attractiveness is extremely important. This is a videogame; no matter how awesome the plot will be, the characters of a videogame need to be heavily defined by their appearance.

 

 

I am still of the idea that the female companions look much more akin to the canonical idea of beauty than the males do, and it makes me feel like, once more, female players get the short end of the stick while the greatest care is put in making the female npc appealing.

 

You point out Solas as a comparison, when Cullen and Dorian both fit into your "Objective Attractiveness" On top of that, Varic is easily a dwarf that would turn heads given he is far and above more sexy looking than any other dwarf. Combine that with the 4 other male companions who will easily have followings for other reasons and it gives girls quite a bit more choice.

 

As for the females, Vivienne is the only one i would say is "objectivity beautify", but i personally don't find her attractive. Cassandra has become very haggard, gaunt, and worn down from fighting a losing battle for years, and her appearance, while not unattractive, would not turn many heads. As for  Sera, while she is pretty, she is not overly striking for an elf, just average. And i haven't seen enough of scribbles to say much on that matter.

 

Point is, this game is entirley subjective, as it;s all about your, the players, opinions. But even if you wanted to take that away and make it an entirely empirical survey, the girls still don't have some crazy edge over the men.

[Panda]

I guess everyone has their own views and beaty standards ^^; In my opinion (straight female) male characters are better looking although Cass is badass with her short hair, strong jaw and muscles

[LunSei]

Seriously, guys?

 

THIS dude

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is suddenly a sex symbol?

 

How times have changed, indeed.

[Silfren]

But despite personal preferences, there is such a thing as objective beauty.

 

Actually no, there isn't.  So-called objective beauty is nothing more than a matter of social conditioning.  There's a reason why it's referred to as what is considered to be conventionally attractive: it is purely a cultural construct that varies from one culture to the next, and it is not objective at all.  

[Char]

Seriously, guys?

 

THIS dude

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is suddenly a sex symbol?

 

How times have changed, indeed.

Many people are big fans of Varric, some because of his looks, and many more because of his voice acting and personality in DA2. A good sense of humour and an easy nature means a lot more to me than any kind of model looks. Plus Brian Bloom is a great voice actor I can't speak for everyone interested in the male characters here, but I can speak for myself when I say the characters looks will not be my first consideration, nor my only consideration, when it comes to in-game interactions. Who they are is much more important to me than what they look like.

[LunSei]

Actually no, there isn't.  So-called objective beauty is nothing more than a matter of social conditioning.  There's a reason why it's referred to as what is considered to be conventionally attractive: it is purely a cultural construct that varies from one culture to the next, and it is not objective at all.  

 

 

 

Very well, since I see this argument keeps being brought up, let's clear it once and for all. THERE IS SUCH A THING AS OBJECTIVE BEAUTY.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

.....And now that we got this out of the way, let's stop bringing that argument again.

 

Furthermore, this is a VIDEOGAME. People don't happen to have an appearance - it's the devs who decide how they look.

[tmp7704]

Seriously, guys?
 
THIS dude
 
is suddenly a sex symbol?
 
How times have changed, indeed.

"Suddenly"?

Times have changed indeed if people aren't even aware of the guy.

[In Exile]

I think (some) of the men - particularly Cullen and DHMG (did E3 confirm his name yet?) - have conventionally attractive features. Although it's an indictment of our culture, "conventionally" attractive is a much narrower band for women, and I don't think any female character we've seen falls really within that bad - the closest is Viviene feature-wise but she has the shaved head and weird Orlesian fashion which really fights against that perception. 

[metalfenix]

The thing that annoys me the most, is that the most sexy male companions probably won't be Li (Iron bull and blackwall). Just like they did with Vega on Mass Effect 3, he was a big giant muscle tease.

[Char]

The thing that annoys me the most, is that the most sexy male companions probably won't be Li (Iron bull and blackwall). Just like they did with Vega on Mass Effect 3, he was a big giant muscle tease.

Vega should definitely have been an LI, but that's a whole new argument

I'm actually pretty optimistic about IB being a romance, the race-gating and the website profile is almost as good as a confirmation for me, but I'm an optimist I'm a fan of all the characters, they're all different, individual, and intriguing to me, so luckily I think I will be happy regardless.