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[Barquiel]

I'd prefer a sequel that respects our choices...but I wouldn't mind an alternate universe that simply ignores the past trilogy either (I'd take it before a canonized sequel any day).

[Drone223]

I'm ready to pretend that ending never existed. 

The ending are what there are, they are here to stay.

[Iakus]

I'd prefer a sequel that respects our choices...but I wouldn't mind an alternate universe that simply ignores the past trilogy either (I'd take it before a canonized sequel any day).

Alternate universe >All

[Johanna]

As long as they aren't doing a prequel, I can find a way to accept it. =)  I'm over my disappointment and anger.  I want to move forward into another installment of this beautiful future.

[Drone223]

Alternate universe >All

With an alternate universe, they may as well make a new franchise instead.

[dreamgazer]

Alternate universe >All

 

Distant future sequel > Alternate universe.

[Iakus]

With an alternate universe, they may as well make a new franchise instead.

A new franchise with mass effect fields, biotics, asari, turians, krogan, relays, and medigel?

 

Wat?     

 

Distant future sequel > Alternate universe.

 

Sure.  If you want to handwave how nothing actually changed 

[Drone223]

A new franchise with mass effect fields, biotics, asari, turians, krogan, relays, and medigel?

 

Genophage, and Geth arc will have to be resolved again (especially if people think they've had satisfying conclusions), question such as who really built the citadel and mass rely's? and what killed the pothean's? will be left unanswered. There is no need to redo those plot points since they've already been resolved.

[dreamgazer]

Sure.  If you want to handwave how nothing actually changed 

 

I'd rather see the galaxy reach similar peaks and valleys over time after the Reaper war than complete, unnecessary abandonment.  

[Drone223]

I'd rather see the galaxy reach similar peaks and valleys over time after the Reaper war than complete, unnecessary abandonment.  

^This

[Tonymac]

One thing is for sure - it will be interesting to see what they do about those endings.  If you ask me, they wrote themselves into quite a bit of a pickle.

 

If they (Bioware) went with Control, UberOverLordShep will be calling the shots with about 1000 Reapers.  Maybe he turns them all off and parks them in the black hole in the center of the Milky Way.  If not, any conflict will have a hard time getting off of the ground - a Reaper Police force would be hard to contend with.  Perhaps he will use Control to make a more perfect Destroy ending by repairing the Relays and then parking the Reapers back in Dark Space.  This way, the Geth, EDI and all of that are still intact.  When Joker finally dies maybe EDI joins him just to close off that loop.  Or not - its up to the writers.  This offers the best solution I can see for a continuation past the ending(s) of ME3.  Shepard might even turn himself off, or live in the Citadel (good spot for a Cameo).  He could even hand the Citadel over and hang out with the Reapers - totally out of the picture.  I see the greatest amount of possibilities from this option.

 

If they (Bioware) choose Synthesis, then everyone is part Machine / AI.  All life will be Borg green - even in the unexplored as of yet regions of the Galaxy.  With that AI being the common factor, I see no reason for conflict (a major element of space genre games).  Also, I see no exploration possibilities in this option, as the AI in us can tell us what is out there without us even having to look.  All info on all species on every world would be fully known.  Perhaps the AI would kill itsself in every life form out of sure ennui; freeing us all.

 

If they (Bioware) choose the Destroy option, then we are left with no Geth, no EDI, and no AI (maybe not even any VI's).  Aside from being totally despicable and murdering your Allies (Geth, if you saved them) and certainly EDI, you have problems.  The Mass Effect universe uses a lot of AI (and VI's), but I suppose we could get along without it.  Might be very dangerous to build more - or have another Geth type of deal happen (or even worse, the eventual re-emergence of another Reaper type of travesty).  This option is also not optimal, in that the red wave of doom might kill off any future runnings in with robot baddies in unexplored regions of the Galaxy.  We will have a much harder time repairing the Relays (no UberOverLordShep or Green AI that has all of the info).  Recovery will be slow - as the Relays are pretty darned far apart.  Unless we can invent some type of dark matter drive / engine on our own (Reapers had very powerful powerplants), it will be a colossal task that would take thousands of years to get even the main relay hubs up and running.  You see, Relays work in pairs - remember the Conduit?  For every two Relays repaired, you only get one 'connection' (or jump path) up and running.  Luckily, we would have the heart of the Relay Network (the Citadel) nearby, but it was heavily damaged.  Destroy works as an option, although it leaves one feeling like a murderer.  Perhaps we can get our tech up fairly rapidly and get the Galaxy running the way we used to know it - the time before the Reapers.  Another thing that strikes the mind is that if we get these Reaper type of Dark Matter engines up and running, we might not need Mass Relays at all, but that removes a critical element of the ME universe.  Even Reapers used the Relays due to the speed one could get around the Galaxy in.  

[The_Other_M]

Knowing EA/BioWare, they'll take the easy way out by setting it so far into the future that it renders all of the endings moot. With a few characters and texts making vague references to the events of previous games.

 

OR they canonize "Refuse" and the game takes place during the next cycle, where the new protagonist finds Liara's beacon.

[Azmahoony]

I agree with the above post.


Also to the lads piping up about not owing us anything, err well loyal fans and marks do keep the ship from sinking..

[AlanC9]

 
OR they canonize "Refuse" and the game takes place during the next cycle, where the new protagonist finds Liara's beacon.

No humans? I'm in, but would it sell?

[SolNebula]

IMO

 

ME:Next

Sequel with HIGH EMS Destroy as canon set a thousand years after the main game so that none of the original trilogy survive.

 

Next enemy: The Leviathans (now forgotten) that try to dominate with indoctrination and infiltration into galactic power structures. being their number limitate they don't wage open war (like the reapers) but cause internal conflict and manipulation in the galaxy to better dominate it.

 

The protagonist: A bounty hunter trying to survive in the caos and conflict inside the the galaxy that might support some factions but in the end being independent in his goals. He/She has a private ship and a loyal crew that consider him/her the leader. Will you be ruthless pirate, a noble scoundrel or an opportunistic bounty hunter? It is up to you

 

I would buy that

[Farangbaa]

No humans? I'm in, but would it sell?

You play a human. You're like the Human version of Javik, only you get two companions. One gay, black guy and an Asian female.. just to have all bases covered.

Mission 1: find Liara's beacon to give credit to your unbelievable story. Shouting doesn't work in this Cycle.

[SolNebula]

You play a human. You're like the Human version of Javik, only you get two companions. One gay, black guy and an Asian female.. just to have all bases covered.

Mission 1: find Liara's beacon to give credit to your unbelievable story. Shouting doesn't work in this Cycle.

 

No asari, no turians, no quarians......NO KROGANS.....not liking where this is going....it's basically a different world

[Farangbaa]

No asari, no turians, no quarians......NO KROGANS.....not liking where this is going....it's basically a different world

Yeah that's why it won't happen.

[Daniel_N7]

IMO

 

ME:Next

Sequel with HIGH EMS Destroy as canon set a thousand years after the main game so that none of the original trilogy survive.

 

Next enemy: The Leviathans (now forgotten) that try to dominate with indoctrination and infiltration into galactic power structures. being their number limitate they don't wage open war (like the reapers) but cause internal conflict and manipulation in the galaxy to better dominate it.

 

The protagonist: A bounty hunter trying to survive in the caos and conflict inside the the galaxy that might support some factions but in the end being independent in his goals. He/She has a private ship and a loyal crew that consider him/her the leader. Will you be ruthless pirate, a noble scoundrel or an opportunistic bounty hunter? It is up to you

 

I would buy that

 

Constructive thoughts.

 

"Sequel (...) set a thousand years after the main game". Any sequel that takes place "a thousand years" or even a few centuries after ME3 would be a cop out. It would be a confession by BioWare that they had no idea what they were doing - regarding the continuation of the series - when they wrote that ending. Of course, many of us think, for better or worse, that that is indeed the case. Still, they better have imagination and inspiration to turn that around. In my opinion, if MEnext is indeed a sequel, they need to establish a canon ending of some sort that doesn't necessarily resonates with the specifics of any single ending, and keeps things as vague as possible regarding the past - meaning little to no mention of the Reaper war.

 

"Next enemy: The Leviathans". Again, no. The Leviathans would be a variation of the Reapers, meaning some outlines of the plot would be too close to the original ME trilogy. I don't think BioWare will want that.

 

"The protagonist: A bounty hunter (...). He/She has a private ship and a loyal crew..." Yes. YES, YES, YES.

[Ozzy]

I'd prefer they pick one ending and stick with it. Decide on the world state from the outset and, if they're insistent on 'importing' still being a thing, allow player choices to shape that world in future games.  

[SolNebula]

Constructive thoughts.

 

"Sequel (...) set a thousand years after the main game". Any sequel that takes place "a thousand years" or even a few centuries after ME3 would be a cop out. It would be a confession by BioWare that they had no idea what they were doing - regarding the continuation of the series - when they wrote that ending. Of course, many of us think, for better or worse, that that is indeed the case. Still, they better have imagination and inspiration to turn that around. In my opinion, if MEnext is indeed a sequel, they need to establish a canon ending of some sort that doesn't necessarily resonates with the specifics of any single ending, and keeps things as vague as possible regarding the past - meaning little to no mention of the Reaper war.

 

"Next enemy: The Leviathans". Again, no. The Leviathans would be a variation of the Reapers, meaning some outlines of the plot would be too close to the original ME trilogy. I don't think BioWare will want that.

 

"The protagonist: A bounty hunter (...). He/She has a private ship and a loyal crew..." Yes. YES, YES, YES.

 

Hmmm the reason I want the sequel to be set a thousand years after the last game is because by doing that you can ignore pretty much many of the consequences of the endings. Sure some things have to be mentioned and canonized (quarians alive or not/cured krogans or not) but you can pretty much ignore the little details. Of course this is possible only if the main characters of ME3 are dead. A good 1000 years is what you need to create the mist behind you and the characters that did that story. How would you be able to keep things vague with Garrus, Joker and Liara still around? Better to be sure the events in the past are far away so that they won't matter that much. Heck I would be pleased with just "The Reapers were defeated a 1000 years ago. Legendary heroes like Shepard and his crew did the history of the galaxy by saving it from the ancient doom"...and after that you can forget about the trilogy and move forward letting everybody assume what they want.

 

The Leviathans. While it's true that they are similar to the Reapers I think they still have a great potential as main villain of a ME games. They were the creators of the Reapers and they were the apex race and with the Reapers defeated you can bet they will be trying to impose their rule over other species. However the Leviathans are not (numerically speaking) as many as the reapers to be a threat in the traditional sense, I would imagine something like a soft threat, they use their variants of indoctrination to control people and infiltrate in the galactic power structure to better dominate it. Unlike the Reapers they don't want to destroy everything but to dominate it. It would be a different type of threat a low intensity one.

In any case the Leviathans are still there and alive...if they are ignored by the writers that would be underwhelming..considering that they seem the type wishing to dominate the galaxy..and without the Reapers around I really don't see what would be able to stop them..

[Farangbaa]

"Sequel (...) set a thousand years after the main game". Any sequel that takes place "a thousand years" or even a few centuries after ME3 would be a cop out. It would be a confession by BioWare that they had no idea what they were doing - regarding the continuation of the series - when they wrote that ending. 

 

They knew exactly what they were doing: ending the trilogy. There wasn't going to be a continuation of the series at that point.

[Daniel_N7]

Hmmm the reason I want the sequel to be set a thousand years after the last game is because by doing that you can ignore pretty much many of the consequences of the endings. Sure some things have to be mentioned and canonized (quarians alive or not/cured krogans or not) but you can pretty much ignore the little details. Of course this is possible only if the main characters of ME3 are dead. A good 1000 years is what you need to create the mist behind you and the characters that did that story. How would you be able to keep things vague with Garrus, Joker and Liara still around? Better to be sure the events in the past are far away so that they won't matter that much. Heck I would be pleased with just "The Reapers were defeated a 1000 years ago. Legendary heroes like Shepard and his crew did the history of the galaxy by saving it from the ancient doom"...and after that you can forget about the trilogy and move forward letting everybody assume what they want. (...)

 

I understand what you're saying, but if MENext becomes so detached from the trilogy's timeline, what makes it Mass Effect? A logo alone won't do it. No matter how BioWare turns it around, I think they'll have to keep some kind of connection with the main elements of the ME Universe, such as a Citadel or a multi-species government body, a (reassembled) Relay network, the main iconic species - Krogan, Turian, Asari, Salarian, Quarian (and Geth probably), and so on...

Assuming this will be a "sequel", not a direct sequel of course, but a separate storyline that takes place "after" the timeline of the Reaper War, for it to be recognisable it will likely move on years of a few decades forward. Centuries?... Maybe, but I personally fear that option. A millenia? IMO that simply won't do.

The alternative, of course, is to make it take place in a completely separate part of the galaxy. But in that case, that won't be so much a sequel but a spin-off. Again, a cop out from the consequences of ME3.

The only solution that remains is to establish and canonize a common background, as vague and imaginative as it may be.

I'm very curious to see if BioWare will present an inspired solution to that conundrum. The success of this continuation, especially if it is being planned as an integrated trilogy, may lie on this...

[iSousek]

We know for sure that there will be N7 operatives and krogans. My take is that they will either make a near ME1 prequel or a near ME3 sequel which means that they will have to cannonize one ending.

[FirstBlood XL]

I kinda hope they go with Leviathans as the menace... They could have two versions depending on your ending choice in ME3... Reapers with you if you pick synthesis or control, or all the reapers are dead if you destroy. Third option could be awesome if you "refused", then you're fighting a 3-way battle royal. Probably too complicated... But I like sticking with some form of progression of the story that has been established.

Leviathans could be said to gather their strength after ME3's reaper war... So generations pass. Or even being at the end of the next cycle after the ME3 war. (In order to seperate it from characters in ME trilogy)