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[10K]

Why would I be mad if they did that? Anything would be better than that piece of "art" they call the ending. 

[dogstar12]

Same here I be mad if they did not. The 3 endings need work on them, the only ending that seemed half good was the destroy ending and this still need looking at, why work at getting the Geth on your side then kill them and have Shepard survive with the cybernetic parts in his/her body. The worst one was synthesis, the catalyst said that this was tried before and failed why would it work now. If they just did what they are doing with Dragon age Inq by delaying the release of the game to polish it up we would not have this problem 

[Iakus]

Why would I be mad if they did that? Anything would be better than that piece of "art" they call the ending. 

I'm sure there are worse possibilities...

 

...I just can't think of any at the moment.

[The_Other_M]

I'm sure there are worse possibilities...

 

...I just can't think of any at the moment.

I don't know, have you seen the ending to Wild ARMs 4 and Eternal Sonata.

 

One is depressing as hell and the other is a 45 minute anti-suicide PSA

[Had-to-say]

Not mad elated.

[inversevideo]

I'm thinking more like how J.J. Abrams rebooted Star Trek.  Mass Effect could easily pull off showing us the multiverse.

What if the relays are so much more? What if they represent much higher technology than anyone imagined? Not galactic gateways, but multiversal conduits.

Would let us know that we do fumble in ignorance, and there is a much bigger story to unfold. Would also leave Shepard's story intact, while allowing us to explore another facet of Mass Effect, unencumbered by anything Shepard did.

[CroGamer002]

I'd be very happy if they retcon all endings out of existence.

[Battlebloodmage]

Destroy ending would be the best outcome for me. It's a personal story rather than the entire world like with DA. I would rather for my character to live than to die. There's a chance he's alive in Destroy, but he's definitely gone in the other two endings.

[wright1978]

I'd understand the decision given what an atrocious ridiculous trainwreck the ME3 ending was.

[emaughan]

I'd understand the decision given what an atrocious ridiculous trainwreck the ME3 ending was.

 

I agree. and in the ME universe at that point in time the people would be more transhuman. But they are only advanced in space travel, and thats thanks to the reapers

[katamuro]

I hope that they actually do retcon it in some ways if they take destroy as base and then add/subtract some of the stuff then they should have a pretty good start for ME4 

[Tonymac]

I'd understand the decision given what an atrocious ridiculous trainwreck dogfart the ME3 ending was.

FTFY - jokingly, of course.  

[Rawgrim]

Retconning ME3 is the only way a sequel, if belivability is still a factor, would work.

[katamuro]

I doubt that they are going to do it in any major way, probably a minor retcon like what they did in between ME1-ME3 but not a major change.

[Farangbaa]

'Everything that happened in ME2-ME3 was a coma-dream.. so here's the real story'.

And then later:

'Actually, everything that happened after Eden Prime was a coma dream.. here's what really happened'

[Mathias]

People would be mad about this?

[filetemo]

'Everything that happened in ME2-ME3 was a coma-dream.. so here's the real story'.

And then later:

'Actually, everything that happened after Eden Prime was a coma dream.. here's what really happened'

And then later:

 

"Bullshit!" screams Cassandra. "That's not what really happened"

[Revan Reborn]

This is a rather entertaining thread. I would laugh profusely if BioWare retconned the original trilogy through the next game and stated "Shepard was just dreaming and woke up." After that I would return the game and never purchase another BioWare product.

 

Honestly this isn't going to happen, but I'll entertain the idea anyways just for the sake of discussion. I can't believe the Indoctrination Theory is really still a thing. The biggest flaws with the theory is that "Control" and "Synthesis" are supposed to be the "wrong" choices that the reapers want you to choose. The issue is the cut scenes and outcomes from those choices never suggest that the reapers actually benefit or somehow "win." The other flaw is that the original script for Mass Effect 3 stated that the perfect ending for the game was actually "Synthesis," which originally was meant for Shepard to become one with the reapers and break the cycle permanently, taking the moral high ground no one else could take.

 

Ultimately, all the Indoctrination Theory is was an attempt at people trying to search for something that just wasn't there. You either follow in the footsteps of the Illusive Man, Anderson, Saren, or refuse the catalyst altogether. Whichever choice you pick doesn't really matter as you finish your mission as Commander Shepard and the trilogy is concluded. Like many others have stated, the canon ending, if it were to be mentioned in the next game, would likely be the Destroy ending, which was originally Shepard's mission all along anyways. I can't see BioWare doing any retcons such as bringing back the Geth or anything of that nature as that would just obsolete the impact and gravity of the choice in ME3. Some choices you just have to live with, and nobody said synthetics just couldn't be rebuilt after the conclusion of the original trilogy.

[Farangbaa]

And then later:
 
"Bullshit!" screams Cassandra. "That's not what really happened"

Did you notice the little inception in there?

Coma in a coma

[CroGamer002]

I think we can go with everything Shepard seen after death of Anderson was a hallucination as Shepard fallen unconscious.

 

Meanwhile, Crucible just fired and killed the Reapers as EDI and Geth live.

 

What we seen in ME3 "endings" was Shepard telling what he/she believed to think it was real, while in hospital bed drugged up and talking to friends. Not being aware it's not real, until months later.

[Chewin]

"How mad would you be if Mass Effect 4 retcons the ending of ME3?"

 

Spoiler

 

Pretty much summarizes my thoughts. 

[Farangbaa]

I think we can go with everything Shepard seen after death of Anderson was a hallucination as Shepard fallen unconscious.
 
Meanwhile, Crucible just fired and killed the Reapers as EDI and Geth live.
 
What we seen in ME3 "endings" was Shepard telling what he/she believed to think it was real, while in hospital bed drugged up and talking to friends. Not being aware it's not real, until months later.

This is only possible if they completely ignore the Leviathan DLC as well.

[CroGamer002]

This is only possible if they completely ignore the Leviathan DLC as well.

Not really, because whole controller of Reapers( aka Catalyst) would be mute if Crucible kills the Reapers, before Shepard get's to meet that controller.

 

Leviathan DLC doesn't add anything to the Crucible.

[Farangbaa]

Not really, because whole controller of Reapers( aka Catalyst) would be mute if Crucible kills the Reapers, before Shepard get's to meet that controller.
 
Leviathan DLC doesn't add anything to the Crucible.

No it doesn't, but it does explain where the Catalyst comes from and by extension where the Reapers came from.
This isn't vital information, I know, but it's the information I have wanted to know since Virmire

[CroGamer002]

No it doesn't, but it does explain where the Catalyst comes from and by extension where the Reapers came from.
This isn't vital information, I know, but it's the information I have wanted to know since Virmire

Well it still doesn't require for Shepard to meet the Catalyst.

 

Leviathan telling that is enough.

 

So my idea of retcon still holds. With that we only have one ending with some variations of our previous choices, which means sequel import can give proper effects of our choices shown to us while not making the game impossible to build due to drastic differences in the endings. With it we also satisfy majority of fans, as the most pro-Destroyers want Geth and EDI to live( big success of MEHEM mod shows that) while also satisfying many pro-Control and pro-Synthesis folks because of same reasons.

 

While also no need to dwell into even worse writing like the Indoctrination theory that only adds more problems then fixes it, which also wouldn't explain how were Reapers defeated then.

 

Also hallucinations would explain why ending scene makes no damn sense( shooting part of the Crucible makes it fire? Throwing yourself into laser beam makes everyone synthetic organic? Being able to breath in open space? A kid that hunted your drams looks like Reaper controller?). Shepard just went a bit crazy for a short while, due to getting hit by Reaper laser that nearly killed him, getting shot, being controlled by Illusive Man and being forced to shoot Anderson caused a lot of stress and shock to his/hers body and significant blood loss).

 

Sure it would be a rather silly and little dumb way to retcon the endings, but it would not be badly written retcon that fixes pretty much majority of problems of the endings, not having any real problems itself and ME universe remains recognizable by keeping one ending that nobody seen in ME3 "Destroy Reapers only".