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[Guanxii]

All of the possible endings eventually converge into synthesis in the distant enough future... even if ME4 takes place prior to synthesis it will happen eventually ("now that we know it's possible, it is inevitable").

 

Admittedly the way it is depicted in the extended cut is abhorrent bordering on ridiculous but under the circumstances it was created is it pretty understandable... a poor choice of artistic expression created hastily under duress by BioWare at the end of their rope attempting to depict the future of the Mass Effect universe in a way that is visually distinct from destroy or control... is it any wonder it turned out the way it did.

 

If Bioware Montréal start their own distinct canon, I wouldn't mind and consider it as such. Retcon I could get over but would prefer them to either go with destroy and face the consequences of synthetics run amok with no lifeguards and space magic McGuffin or go balls to the wall with the only definitive ending to the organic/synthetic paradox. If Bioware actually did go with synthesis in a future timeline perhaps all the friendly neighbourhood reapers after finishing their mission to preserve life in our galaxy, helping to rebuild and sharing their ancient and new found wisdom are the ones to go off in search of new life in other galaxies to 'preserve'. The artistic 'flourishes' of the extended cut are dialled back a notch or seven and the galaxy is "different but recognisable" with no narrative casualties.

[Raizo]

I would gladly forget this atrocity. 

That's the spirit.

In truth I no longer give a flying **** about the first 3 ME games. ME3 pretty much ruined the trilogy for me. As such I wouldn't care if Bioware picked one ending for ME3 and went with it or if they retconned all 3 endings and came up with something completely different from what they offered us. I've moved on and I want the series to move on as well ( into the future, no prequels and no side stories ) and as such Bioware needs to establish what the ME Universe is like after ME3.

[crimzontearz]

That's the spirit.

In truth I no longer give a flying **** about the first 3 ME games. ME3 pretty much ruined the trilogy for me. As such I wouldn't care if Bioware picked one ending for ME3 and went with it or if they retconned all 3 endings and came up with something completely different from what they offered us. I've moved on and I want the series to move on as well ( into the future, no prequels and no side stories ) and as such Bioware needs to establish what the ME Universe is like after ME3.

they will avoid it most likely

it will be Pandorum-like

[xAmilli0n]

I'd be sooo mad that instead of just buying the game, I'll buy it while making a slighty scowly face at the guy at the cash register.

[dreamgazer]

I'd be sooo mad that instead of just buying the game, I'll buy it while making a slighty scowly face at the guy at the cash register.

 

Spot on.

[Vapaa]

I would want to french-kiss Mac Walters.

That’s mad, right ?

[DarthLaxian]

Seeing as how we see humans, ships, krogan ( and the krogan doesn't have green wiring ) this leads to suggest Synthesis wasn't taken in their canon.

 

 

What would your reaction be if Shepard was simply dreaming or was mind assaulted by Harbinger and it turns out the only real ending was Destroy?

 

Because I, as an IT believer, would probably create 30 alt accounts and spam '' I TOLD YOU '' on every Mass Effect related forum.

 

Mad? ==> NO, DELIGHTED !!!

 

At least I would LOVE that (disliked/hated ME3 => Still do!)

 

greetings LAX

[rapscallioness]

The way I see it anything could happen. BW has carte blanche because truth of the matter is we have no idea what the Crucible Beam might do in the long term--or even midterm. In an act of flailing desperation, we unleashed that shyte. Yes, it stopped the Reapers, but wth else did it do?

 

I could see BW doing some kind of prologue type thing acknowledging whatever choice and then saying, "But....". And the whole EC with the unreliable narrator Grandpa could have been just trying to smooth things over so as not to traumatize his young grandchild. "And they lived happily ever after. The End. Now go to bed."  Then we get the "True" story of what happened after the beam went off. Whatever that may be. "Apparently Grandpa didn't quite tell me everything." Then pop to sum bottlenecked common start point.

 

Heck, whereas I prefer a new PC, I could see Shepard easily coming back. Even if the crew didn't come back, maybe the Keepers skittled skattled over in their skittle-y way and retrieved your body and took you off to a protein vat--or sum such thing. So what if you disintegrated a little? It was just surface burns. Just surface burns. A good exfoliation routine and Bam! lol! Then they wrap you up in sum healing stasis pod and Shep wakes up centuries later---to witness what hell you have truly wrought.

 

A stranger in a strange land---but with familiar eyes to look out from.

 

Anything could happen. I don't see them needing to retcon or make anything canon. Imo, the ending of Mass3 has enough wiggle room it should not be a problem.

 

Regardless, I really don't care what they do, or don't do with the endings of Mass3. I care abt the extent of exploration; the time period it's set in; the gist of the story; the characters; what kind of customization and character creation options will I have; will I have more dialogue options and unique dialogue options that actually impact the story and the characters to whom I'm speaking--and the way they view/react to me.

 

For example, if it's a prequel--of which I have zero interest in, I will not be picking this one up. Even with a scowly face.

[N7 Whiskey]

Mass effect is the setting,

 

A world without the characters, but with asari, turians, salarians, hanar, the relay network, biotics, etc would still be Mass Effect.

 

 

Exactly. Regardless of what ending any player chose, all the technology they use everyday is based on same tech as the relays. That is all part of what makes Mass Effect Universe such a fun setting.

[BioWareM0d13]

IT has zero chance of ever being made canon. It was a fan theory that was never part of the actual writing of the series itself, and was even banned from being discussed on this site at one point. I'm afraid the "I TOLD YOU SO" fantasies won't come to pass. 

 

But just to play along, if Bioware did go that route I'd suppose my reaction would be mixed. IT? Do not like. Destroy is canon? Sounds good.

[Iakus]

IT has zero chance of ever being made canon. It was a fan theory that was never part of the actual writing of the series itself, and was even banned from being discussed on this site at one point. I'm afraid the "I TOLD YOU SO" fantasies won't come to pass. 

 

But just to play along, if Bioware did go that route I'd suppose my reaction would be mixed. IT? Do not like. Destroy is canon? Sounds good.

 

IT holds a curious position.  While it has been banned from teh forums, we've also been told it is a valid interpretation of the ending events.

 

For myself, I never believed in it.  But if Bioware did go that route in MENExt, I'd roll with it.  Depending on other factors.

[ShaggyWolf]

I'm all in favor of burying ME3's plot.  Preferably in an unmarked grave.  

 

But I'm not ready to leave the galaxy or visit some distant future.  That way lies retreat.  I want the setting to remain what and where it is.

 

I just want ME3 to receive the worst insult you can give an enemy:  to be ignored.

 

Liked for the Okeer quote

 

I can certainly understand your viewpoint. I'd be lying if I said I weren't attatched to at least a few aspects of the ME trilogy's setting. Omega, Illium, Noveria and the Citadel are my favorites It'd be hard to say a permanent goodbye to places like that, but for me, the most important part of Mass Effect has always been the characters and alien races, as well as factions like Cerberus. So if an ark scenario were to happen, as long as it preserved all the aliens, and at least a few of the social philosophies from the original trilogy, I'd be happy.

 

I'm not opposed to other narrative settings though. I'd love to stay in the established universe, but only under the condition that the story gets back to the galaxy-spanning political intrigue, corporate influence, and gang warfare, and buries all the stuff that has anything to do with Reapers and universal synthesis. I just don't really see an easy way to do that without awkwardly ignoring the influence ME3's story would likely have over the Milky Way's future.

 

If they did do that though, and also made it so that I can play the single player story campaign as a lady Quarian, and/or a Brogan Engineer, I'd even pre-order

[Eshaye]

I would want to french-kiss Mac Walters.

That’s mad, right ?

 

I'd say so... But I won't judge you XD

[frylock23]

I don't see how they do a near-term sequel without either an official canon ending, likely destroy or control, or they do a big retcon and write out their preferred version of how it actually ended ignoring all game saves. Alternately, they go far enough out in the timeline to plausibly allow either control or destroy to work as canon endings and just referring to the way things ended with bits of dialogue. I'd be perfectly happy if the only reference to my Shepards was a statue on the Citadel with a linked Codex entry that referred to the ending, maybe next to the Krogan monument commemorating the end of the Rachni Wars.

 

But if you go far enough out, you can still have a sequel without having to deal in much depth with the actual ending.

[Mcfly616]

I'd prefer they don't acknowledge it at all. (especially if there's no way to import the major choices of the Shepard Trilogy. Which many of us have deemed impossible for something like 2 years now)

 

When it comes to keeping things completely separate from the Shepard narrative, they have  several options. Some of which are so perfectly viable, yet so vehemently rejected because of some fans narrowmindedness.

 

 

 

When Bioware says they're 'listening' to fans, I truly hope it's about the little things. E.g. character creation, squadmate types, choices, weapons, gameplay....and not about the chronology or narrative structure.

[Who Knows]

As long as it's not the First Contact War or the reapers again, I'm good.

[DeathScepter]

it would be funny that somehow that Starkid was Harbringer in some form and somehow IT was true to a point, and Somehow T.I.M., Anderson and Shepard all shoot the tubes at the same time.

[General TSAR]

Not all all, as long as the toasters are out of commission,

 

If not, well....I'll get a second chance.

[Mcfly616]

it would be funny that somehow that Starkid was Harbringer in some form

 

 

It was...

[DeathScepter]

It was...

 

 

I will not be surprised that Harbringer will be confirmed to be the starbrat. And I should work on my Arrival version of IT and yes somehow Shepard breaks Indoctrination, Less Derberus and Less stupid people in general.

[dreamgazer]

I will not be surprised that Harbringer will be confirmed to be the starbrat.

 

The Catalyst embodies the collective consciousness and knowledge of the Reapers.  Therefore, the Catalyst was Harbinger in some form.

[shepskisaac]

Meh, I would get over it but I would rather have them 'ship' the series to Andromeda/Triangulum galaxies, or make a pararell universe due to time travelling (Star Trek reboot style) or go through some wormhole or something. All are better to me than retconning the endings

[Pateu]

IT has zero chance of ever being made canon. It was a fan theory that was never part of the actual writing of the series itself, and was even banned from being discussed on this site at one point. I'm afraid the "I TOLD YOU SO" fantasies won't come to pass. 

 

But just to play along, if Bioware did go that route I'd suppose my reaction would be mixed. IT? Do not like. Destroy is canon? Sounds good.

 

Really? That seems excessive.

[AlanC9]

I think it was because IT is so hated that those threads always got ugly within a page or two, and the mods didn't want to deal with it anymore. It wasn't banned everywhere, just everywhere that wasn't an IT group.

[fchopin]

If the true ending was destroy i would be happy with the results but i would not play a game if the result was one of the other endings.