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I feel this is relevant here. Link for confirmation.

 

Totally unexpected of them.

 

A sign of good things to come, perhaps? Maybe... I still feel there is going to be a few straight options, possibly Cassandra among them. But as long as everyone is getting something, I guess that's good enough. 

 

Have at it.

 

 



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Is good but unexpected news imo, i look forward to romancing her with my female inquisitor. Only thing that disappointed me were the guys in her Li confirmation thread calling her a worthless companion now just cos she's gay & leading to arguments that got it locked, some things never change i guess :?



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But as long as everyone is getting something, I guess that's good enough. 

 

That rather depends on exactly what it is that you get.



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Only thing that disappointed me were the guys in her Li confirmation thread calling her a worthless companion now just cos she's gay & leading to arguments that got it locked, some things never change i guess :?

 

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Is good but unexpected news imo, i look forward to romancing her with my female inquisitor. Only thing that disappointed me were the guys in her Li confirmation thread calling her a worthless companion now just cos she's gay & leading to arguments that got it locked, some things never change i guess :?

 

Really?? I almost never go outside the twitter thread where things are much nicer and friendlier so I didn't know this! She'll probably be in my permanent party along with Dorian (my Inquisitor's bf, hopefully ;) ) and Cole/ Cass/ or Blackwall. I haven't decided who the third person will be. 



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Really?? I almost never go outside the twitter thread where things are much nicer and friendlier so I didn't know this! She'll probably be in my permanent party along with Dorian (my Inquisitor's bf, hopefully ;) ) and Cole/ Cass/ or Blackwall. I haven't decided who the third person will be.


Has been several threads were it got nasty unfortunately, the amount of hate some people have for Sera now just cos of her sexuality is dumb imo.

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That rather depends on exactly what it is that you get.

True, and to a large extent. I think the fact that they've actually made a gay companion this around is promising by itself. It's perhaps safe to say it will be a mix of everything at this point, given their statement that this game has the highest number of romances of all BioWare games. 

 

That said, I, for one, am actively trying not to get attached to any particular companion so I don't get disappointed if my expectations aren't met. Right now, I am looking at Cassandra for my male Inquisitor and Sera for my female Inquisitor. Already got the latter and Cassandra might as well be guaranteed for male Inquisitors, so I'll probably be happy.

 

Really?? I almost never go outside the twitter thread where things are much nicer and friendlier so I didn't know this! She'll probably be in my permanent party along with Dorian (my Inquisitor's bf, hopefully ;) ) and Cole/ Cass/ or Blackwall. I haven't decided who the third person will be. 

I've counted at least three locked threads since the announcement, so yeah, it's pretty bad out there... in a highly amusing way!



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I think the fact that they've actually made a gay companion this around is promising by itself.

 

And that rather depends on what you want/expect. It also still comes back to being dependant on what you actually get.

 

It can just as easily be perceived as unpromising.

 

But perhaps I'm just a 'glass half empty' type.

 

 

It's perhaps safe to say it will be a mix of everything at this point, given their statement that this game has the highest number of romances of all BioWare games.

 

I'd call it an unsupported assumption, but I see where you're coming from. I admire your ruthless optimism. Admire it, not share it.

 

ME3 had more potential s/s 'romances' for FemShepard than DA2 had for FemHawke.

 

However I found that aspect of ME3 to be objectionable bile whereas I found that aspect of DA2 to be well-handled, well-written and admirable.

 

This is an area where quantity over quality makes me extremely nervous. And sceptical. And dubious. And pessimistic.



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Has been several threads were it got nasty unfortunately, the amount of hate some people have for Sera now just cos of her sexuality is dumb imo.

 

It isn't just your opinion, hon. It's dumb full stop. (Or 'period' for our American viewers.  ^_^ )



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Having a lesbian comp can't be bad.

 

May actually teach people what a 'lesbian' is.

 

Some people on the forums definitely don't know what that word means XD



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Having a lesbian comp can't be bad.

 

Oh it can.

 

You're hoping it won't be.

 

That isn't the same thing.



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And that rather depends on what you want/expect. It also still comes back to being dependant on what you actually get.

 

It can just as easily be perceived as unpromising.

 

But perhaps I'm just a 'glass half empty' type.

No, I get what you're saying. The way I see it is if you are specifically expecting something, then the mere inclusion of a gay romance option probably won't mean much to you as it is also dependent on other factors. In retrospect, I was much more concerned about whether we would get a gay companion in the first place, regardless of any other specifics. So I was quite thrilled to learn about Sera, both because it wasn't something I expected and the simple fact that we finally have such a companion.

 

I'd call it an unsupported assumption, but I see where you're coming from. I admire your ruthless optimism. Admire it, not share it.

 

ME3 had more potential s/s 'romances' for FemShepard than DA2 had for FemHawke.

 

However I found that aspect of ME3 to be objectionable bile whereas I found that aspect of DA2 to be well-handled, well-written and admirable.

 

This is an area where quantity over quality makes me extremely nervous. And sceptical. And dubious. And pessimistic.

It's largely an unsupported assumption. Then again, I'm definitely looking at this through a prism of optimism. :D

 

You do have a point with the quantity over quality thing, though.

 

If I'm being completely transparent, I think the 'best' thing to do right now would be to make the other female companions (assuming they are all romances, which apparently they are) available for both genders. People seem to think Cassandra will be a straight option and I'm inclined to feel the same way. But while I hope that's not the case, it's looking increasingly likely that it will be now that Sera has been confirmed as a f/f only romance, with Vivienne ending up as the bi/playersexual option (hence my 'mix of everything' comment earlier).

 

I can't comment on the male companions since literally not a single one of them appeals to me as a potential romance (yet) and we don't know a whole lot about them, but you get the idea.



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The way I see it is if you are specifically expecting something, then the mere inclusion of a gay romance option won't mean much to you. In retrospect, I was much more concerned about whether we would get a gay companion in the first place, regardless of any other specifics.

 

That's perfectly fair. Although if you're going in expecting something specific then, frankly, you're a fool.

 

To be honest I always expected some form of s/s content, this being the DA franchise. But you're right. That still counts as an assumption. And all assumptions make an ass... etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...

 

 

So I was quite thrilled to learn about Sera, both because it wasn't something I expected and the simple fact that we finally have such a companion.

 

We (meaning f/f relationship players, I guess) had such a companion in KotOR and ME3.

 

Juhani... I think we can all agree that was very much baby steps BW. Admirable, but perfunctory.

 

As for Samantha... I feel that I can't really say anything lest the Traynor mafia come and silence me in my sleep.

 

Let me simply say that these examples just didn't/don't cut it for me. Perhaps that might go some way towards explaining my scepticism?

 

I get that this is what some people want. I don't agree. I have never agreed. I am never going to agree.

 

 

If I'm being completely transparent, I think the 'best' thing to do right now would be to make the other female companions (assuming they are all romances, which apparently they are) available for both genders. People seem to think Cassandra will be a straight option and I'm inclined to feel the same way. But while I hope that's not the case, it's looking increasingly likely that it will be now that Sera has been confirmed as a f/f only romance, with Vivienne ending up as the bi/playersexual option (hence my 'mix of everything' comment earlier).

 

If I'm being similarly transparent... I don't care. I don't care about the DAI characters. I don't care about DAI.

 

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It hasn't grabbed my interest. The characters haven't grabbed my interest. I have no current desire to play it. At all.

 

So I hope you're right. I hope it appeals to a broad range and has something to cater for as many people as possible.

 

I'm still not going to be one of them.



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Oh it can.

 

You're hoping it won't be.

 

That isn't the same thing.

 

I know, I was just joking around :P



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I know, I was just joking around :P

 

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Having a lesbian comp can't be bad.
 
May actually teach people what a 'lesbian' is.
 
Some people on the forums definitely don't know what that word means XD


This is true, that elfquisitor poster surprised me when he thought "lesbian=woman playing hard to get" :huh:

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"lesbian=woman playing hard to get" :huh:

 

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I pick really stupid, he seemed to honestly believe lesbian women are just playing hard to get & should give men a chance if they treat them nicely :rolleyes:



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I pick really stupid, he seemed to honestly believe lesbian women are just playing hard to get & should give men a chance if they treat them nicely :rolleyes:

 

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Was it ME3 that turned you off, Canny? Or are you just no longer interested in what BioWare has to offer?



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Was it ME3 that turned you off, Canny? Or are you just no longer interested in what BioWare has to offer?

 

To be honest, FP, it isn't just BW. It is gaming in general. Maybe I'm too old? Either way I seem to have completely lost interest. For now at least.

 

It isn't completely the fault of ME3. But it certainly didn't help.



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This is true, that elfquisitor poster surprised me when he thought "lesbian=woman playing hard to get" :huh:

 

Yeah, and then the posts that kinda suggest one lesbian elf is a detriment to the elven race b/c she won't have elven babies with the male elf Inquisitor.

 

Those have been my least favorite. 



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Yeah, and then the posts that kinda suggest one lesbian elf is a detriment to the elven race b/c she won't have elven babies with the male elf Inquisitor.

 

Those have been my least favorite. 

 

I always love how these people manage to both designate the burden of propogation of the species to a single character and use the word 'logic' without skipping a beat.

 

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I'm sure the elven gene-pool can do without this particular inquisitor's contributions, regardless of whether there are any str8 elfgirls around

 

it's not like his dumb ass is gonna ~have kids~ in a bioware action game (at the end of which he will probably die) anyway



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I'm sure the elven gene-pool can do without this particular inquisitor's contributions, regardless of whether there are any str8 elfgirls around

 

it's not like his dumb ass is gonna ~have kids~ in a bioware action game (at the end of which he will probably die) anyway

It just sounds like they're trying too hard to come up with arguments that have no basis whatsoever.

 

Like, I literally thought it was sarcasm when I read one post about why Sera shouldn't be a lesbian (i.e. so she can have babies and save the mighty elven race from extinction). Really? That's an argument now?

 

'Cuz clearly the womb of one woman is going to have an insurmountable impact on an entire race...

 

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