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[thats1evildude]

I'm pretty sure asexual people can and do have sex for the benefit of their partners.

If you were celibate, then why would you be in romances?

[Battlebloodmage]

I honestly am not a fan of it, and it's out of selfishness, I'm not gonna lie, since it would likely take up a spot from the usual romance. With the options being limited as it is, I'm not a fan of headcanon a relationship my protagonist has with an asexual person. I have no problem of an asexual companion though. We haven't had a trans companion yet, left alone a LI one. Maevaris would be awesome, imo.

[DrBlingzle]

I honestly don't see why an asexual person wouldn't let a sexual person that they are romancing to have sex with them. Ok, you don't personally enjoy it, but does it hurt? You don't enjoy pleasing someone you love? I mean when I give someone a back rub for example, I don't directly enjoy the act, it's a bit of a chore, but I am doing it for someone because I want to make them feel good. If I didn't enjoy sex, I can't imagine why it would bother me if a person I loved had fun with my body anyway. Just curious. 

I'd imagine it would be like having sex with someone you're not sexually attracted to. For instance a heterosexual person having sex with another person of the same gender or a homosexual person having sex with someone of the other gender. While it wouldn't hurt, it would still be uncomfortable and awkward.

 

At least thats what I think, I honestly dont know for sure, so dont quote me. You'll probably have to ask an actual asexual person if you want to be certain.

[Phate Phoenix]

I honestly don't see why an asexual person wouldn't let a sexual person that they are romancing to have sex with them. Ok, you don't personally enjoy it, but does it hurt? You don't enjoy pleasing someone you love? I mean when I give someone a back rub for example, I don't directly enjoy the act, it's a bit of a chore, but I am doing it for someone because I want to make them feel good. If I didn't enjoy sex, I can't imagine why it would bother me if a person I loved had fun with my body anyway. Just curious. 

 

It's a personal preference. Some asexuals do, in fact, have sex with their partners. Others don't. Personally, the thought of having sex kinda... grosses me out. Like, it makes me really uncomfortable to consider it. Heck, I don't even like the thought of kissing someone, but, again, other asexuals do kiss or even enjoy kissing. It's all very specific to each person. (Like sexual acts, if you will. Some people like certain acts, others don't.)

[happy_daiz]

What are you trying to change here? DA2 didn't even have sex scenes (just a fade to black).

 

You could rp that there's just some cuddling involved, or cooking, or parcheesi, maybe some light petting if you want, and be done with it, yeah?

[Steppenwolf]

They can't just keep adding more and more stuff like this. After asexual romance the next request would be polyamory. After polyamory it would be cuckolding. Etc. It's too much time and resources devoted to something that a tiny minority of players would experience and it's a never-ending list of requests to meet.

[Genshie]

I'd imagine it would be like having sex with someone you're not sexually attracted to. For instance a heterosexual person having sex with another person of the same gender or a homosexual person having sex with someone of the other gender. While it wouldn't hurt, it would still be uncomfortable and awkward.

 

At least thats what I think, I honestly dont know for sure, so dont quote me. You'll probably have to ask an actual asexual person if you want to be certain.

Well I am not asexual but I have had a experimental phase and I can tell you it was kind of weird. Curiosity and all.

[9TailsFox]

I honestly am not a fan of it, and it's out of selfishness, I'm not gonna lie, since it would likely take up a spot from the usual romance. With the options being limited as it is, I'm not a fan of headcanon a relationship my protagonist has with an asexual person. I have no problem of an asexual companion though. We haven't had a trans companion yet, left alone a LI one. Maevaris would be awesome, imo.

Maevaris is just plain boring, I want this guy

[MrMrPendragon]

Wait, does the player him/herself not want the sex, or do you just want to make an Inquisitor who doesn't want sex?

 

Because if you yourself don't want any of the sex, wouldn't it be easier to just not engage in the romance instead of building a character from scratch?

 

Maybe the "romanceable" companion wants sex, but you don't. If we're really going to dive in and immerse ourselves, wouldn't it be unfair for your virtual partner to deny him/her some good sex just because you don't find it appealing?

[thats1evildude]

Steppenwolf has a point. Despite the image presented by the BSN, only a portion of players actually access romance content.

[10K]

I'm behind this idea 100% I'm sick of the atrocious love scenes period. I'd rather they do away with all romances in general, but this is the second best thing they can do. Romances feel so shallow, I see literally no purpose for them.After agreeing with virtually everything a teammate has done, the player is then rewarded with that ridiculous scene. That's all that scene is, a reward to the player, nothing more. So I'd rather for them to focus more on the emotional bits of an relationship. Have more small intimate moments between the PC and the LI adding depth to the relationship, actually making the connection feel real and relevant. Rather then that awkward dry humping mess which comes after being a yes man throughout the majority of the game   

[Gannayev of Dreams]

I'm pretty sure asexual people can and do have sex for the benefit of their partners.

If you were celibate, then why would you be in romances?

 

The desire for love and intimacy is not tied to sexuality.  They heavily influence each other in most people, but if one is missing the other doesn't just... disappear.

 

Asexuality is probably the most under represented and poorly understood sexualities. It's weird to think of people having NO sexual desire whatsoever, but it happens.

[LadyMacTir]

I honestly don't see why an asexual person wouldn't let a sexual person that they are romancing to have sex with them. Ok, you don't personally enjoy it, but does it hurt? You don't enjoy pleasing someone you love? I mean when I give someone a back rub for example, I don't directly enjoy the act, it's a bit of a chore, but I am doing it for someone because I want to make them feel good. If I didn't enjoy sex, I can't imagine why it would bother me if a person I loved had fun with my body anyway. Just curious. 

 

There are different types of asexual people. I knew a guy who didn't like anyone to touch him, but others can enjoy sex and give birth to a child. As you said - they enjoy the closeness and the emotion in sex.

 

 

Why?

 

Different studies suppose the prevalence of asexuals is comparable with prevalence of gays.

[TheLittleTpot]

In regards to sex scenes, I always preferred the post-coitus cuddling in Mass Effect over the actual coitus. The best I can think of is an option to skip the sex-scene and go straight to the cuddling but, as mentioned before, some asexuals have borderline haphephobia (fear of touch) so even that wouldn't be satisfactory. Honestly, I think Sebastian is the best option for an asexual romance thus far, at least from the player's perspective. An asexual companion however....well, I usually try to refrain from saying stuff like "It'd be too much work" but in this case...it kinda is, because asexuality is so diverse. Some asexuals treat romance the same way I'd treat friendship, some put up with sex for the sake of their partner, some just want to cuddle. There are seriously as many variations of asexuality as there are variations of preferences in the Straight-Bi-Gay spectrum! The same goes for Transsexuality, but that's more tied to identity than sexuality. So, as sad as I am to say it, I think media still has a long way to go before they can properly represent everyone, but that's more tied to technological efficiency in this particular case.

[thats1evildude]

Different studies suppose the prevalence of asexuals is comparable with prevalence of gays.

That may be the case - I doubt it personally - but in addition to the gay people pursuing the gay romances, there are straight people pursuing the gay romances for the titillation factor (no pun intended).

[Maclimes]

Honestly, this isn't something I care about. However, OP, if you do... this is the right way to do it. Don't post crazy inflammatory posts, don't troll, don't rant and scream.

 

Politely ask for what you want. Wait a reasonable amount of time, then ask for it again. Get your friends to ask. Then ask for it again.

 

Write letters to the marketing or customer service branches of the company. I'm sure www.bioware.com has a "Contact Us" link somewhere. Find it, and send them a note, explaining who you are, what you want, and why. Don't be rude or demanding. Then get your friends to do the same.

 

I know it seems small, but that's how things get done. Slowly eroding the barriers. It will take time, but if enough people do this, it will work eventually. Especially with such an open, user-friendly, sexuality-friendly company as Bioware.

[EmperorSahlertz]

There are different types of asexual people. I knew a guy who didn't like anyone to touch him, but others can enjoy sex and give birth to a child. As you said - they enjoy the closeness and the emotion in sex.

........ So basically they just plainly enjoy sex? Because that is what sex is...

[drake heath]

Uh, isn't an asexual romance, just a close friendship?

[Hippiethecat124]

........ So basically they just plainly enjoy sex? Because that is what sex is...

Sex is when two people rub their squishy reproductive bits against each other, and that apparently feels good to a large portion of the population. Emotion has nothing to do with that act in its basic form in and of itself. A majority of people enrage in sex because they care greatly for their partner and want to share something intimate and sensual with them. Others just like the jiggly feeling and pick up men/women who are complete strangers to get giggity with. And others don't find the giggity to be appealing in the least, from a metal standpoint.

In my experience, asexuality is one of the hardest sexual orientations to comprehend for sexuals, because it's such a base desire which is fueled by the survival instinct to preserve the species. And, besides that, when aces claim to have enjoyed sex on occasion, that further confuses others. I don't care to get into the nitty-gritty of it, but orgasm/pleasure are physical reactions to physical simulation, and are not the same as finding emotional satisfaction. This said as an asexual in a physical relationship with her sexual partner who engages in these acts regularly to keep him happy without really enjoying the experience myself.

And, all that jazz out of the way, I WOULD really, really love to see an asexual romance option, but I know in my heart that it will never happen in a AAA title like Dragon Age or Mass Effect. I loved the celibate relationship with Sebastian, though he did sometimes annoy me with his constant attempts of conversion to my companions, but we know by looking at the forums that that aspect of it went over like a lead balloon, and plethoras of fanfics have been written to rectify this behavior.

Just like I wouldn't like having others shove their sweaty, icky, dong-flopping-ness sexuality on me in any media, I won't shove my boring, "loveless" and weird lack thereof on others. I just hope if I choose to headcanon an ace romance for one of my characters, that I can at least skip the scene before they start panting and sucking face and wallowing on the bed. I think we all know what goes on after the fade-to-black there.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Uh, isn't an asexual romance, just a close friendship?

Basically yes evidently.

[XMissWooX]

Uh, isn't an asexual romance, just a close friendship?

 

Not unless you want to marry all of your close friends.

[bmwcrazy]

Asexual romance?

 

What is this I don't even...

[someguy1231]

Honestly, this isn't something I care about. However, OP, if you do... this is the right way to do it. Don't post crazy inflammatory posts, don't troll, don't rant and scream.

 

Politely ask for what you want. Wait a reasonable amount of time, then ask for it again. Get your friends to ask. Then ask for it again.

 

Write letters to the marketing or customer service branches of the company. I'm sure www.bioware.com has a "Contact Us" link somewhere. Find it, and send them a note, explaining who you are, what you want, and why. Don't be rude or demanding. Then get your friends to do the same.

 

I know it seems small, but that's how things get done. Slowly eroding the barriers. It will take time, but if enough people do this, it will work eventually. Especially with such an open, user-friendly, sexuality-friendly company as Bioware.

 

 

I've politely, and reasonably, asked for things like this before. And what response did I get from the "open, user-friendly, sexuality-friendly" Bioware? A flat refusal. And don't get me started on how the userbase responded to my polite, reasonable requests...

[Kingthlayer]

Whenever I see Asexual I think insects and snakes that breed with themselves.  I hate when the same term is used to describe two completely different things.

 

As for who would be Asexual, I doubt any of them especially not Blackwall.  That due has years left in his life, I can`t see the man falling in love with someone when he will die very soon, I can see him getting his plough on with the Inquisitor but their won`t be any emotional connection going on.Plough and then right out the bedroom window.

[mikeymoonshine]

They can't just keep adding more and more stuff like this. After asexual romance the next request would be polyamory. After polyamory it would be cuckolding. Etc. It's too much time and resources devoted to something that a tiny minority of players would experience and it's a never-ending list of requests to meet.

 

I believe that is a slippery slope fallacy. Polygamy is marriage and romancing multiple characters has already been a thing in several bioware games. As for cuckolding, i'm not even gonna get into that one. 

 

I am sure people request all kinds of things but if bioware decides a certain request is worth granting then so be it.