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[Phate Phoenix]

I think Sebastian "crippled romance arc" came from the fact that he has far less conversations than any of the companions, rather than the lack of sex.

Spoiler

If he had a "start a relationship moment" after his questioning beliefs quests in act 3, where he visits the Hawke Manor to confess his feelings and propose marriage (either a chaste one or as a possible princess of Starkhaven), some Consoling words at the end of All that Remains (_{he's a priest, he should be used to consoling grieving people}) and maybe a hug before the Grand finale, the romance might have felt a bit more legitimate.

Otherwise, I'd like to try an asexual romance.  Or at least be able to deny sex and continue with the romance, either with the promise of it happening later or not at all. 

 

Oh my God, your spoiler text--that would have been so perfect. That's really what was missing. His romance was just not meaty enough. (Also, all the Act 2 flirts were sexual in nature, which sucked.)

[Innsmouth Dweller]

I am an asextual person who doesn't find anyone physically attractive in a way that would make me want to kiss/have sex with them. That's it. That's what an asextual person is, a person who isn't interested in the physical aspect of a relationship, but rather is attracted to the person in a different way (IE the charisma between talking to each other and doing things together

 

Where in the world does sociopath come in when talking about asextuality? A sociopath is a person who lacks a sense of morality or generally social issues like anti social. An asextual person in the most basic of things is a person who doesn't like to have sex/physical relationship. I can't even begin to figure out where the connection is between those two XD

 

It's not the same thing. Oh, Antanie pretty much said what I was going to say.

sociopath? oh, i dunno, the killing part maybe? (i haven't figured out the nested quotations yet, do they even exist here?)

i'm reffering to a concept of making a NPC asexual romance option. and since it's RPG there is a good chance a PC can be whomever you wish. mine are usually killing bunch of other people

 

from what i understand there are few types of asexuality (some of them consider physical attaction, defined sexuality, like... hetero asexuals? it pretty much blows my mind but i digress). doesn't it make the whole concept a bit too vague to fight for it's inclusion?

[BioticMarauder]

No. It's not the same thing. You don't love your friends like you love your romantic partners, do you? And there are people who, shocking as it may sound, love their partners but don't feel the need to get intimate with them. It doesn't mean that they're not in love with them, or that they are sharing just a "deep friendship".
There are things you wouldn't necessarily say or talk about or do with your friends, but you would with your partners.
Asexual romance and friendship are not the same thing.

 

I can understand. It's just hard for me to imagine not kissing or holding hands with your partner. But seeing as there are people here who'd like to have an asexual romance in DA:I, maybe Bioware will include one in their next game.

[andy6915]

This is amazing, I once took a social science class and we got to different types of sexuality. Homosextual? Aokay. The moment the concept of Asextual comes in? Everyone is completely baffled and can't understand it to the point they sit there claiming it's not a real thing. Meanwhile, as a person who is asextual I had a massive laugh at how on their high horses they were about it. It's ridiculous, it's reminding me so hard of this thread.

You know why? Because it doesn't make any damn sense. Sex and wanting it is one of the basest things about us, up there with wanting to sleep and eat and pee when our bladders are full and crap when our intestines are full and pulling your hand away from a hot surface. Not wanting sex is like not wanting to ever eat or sleep, it's just ludicrous and a sign of a brain that obviously has some malfunction. That last part may sound offensive, but imagine you met someone who truly and completely hated the idea of ever needing to eat to the point where they prefer a needle in their arm pumping nutrients in them over eating. Would you not think "this person is messed up"? That's how us non-asexual see you. It's just so out there and strange and obviously abnormal that your only reaction can only be confusion.

[Andraste_Reborn]

You know why? Because it doesn't make any damn sense. Sex and wanting it is one of the basest things about us, up there with wanting to sleep and eat and pee when our bladders are full and crap when our intestines are full and pulling your hand away from a hot surface. Not wanting sex is like not wanting to ever eat or sleep, it's just ludicrous and a sign of a brain that obviously has some malfunction.

 

We need to eat and sleep and pee in order to live. We do not need to have sex.

 

Here's an analogy for you: most people want to have children. That's a fundamental human desire, one that our species wouldn't be here without. Some of us, however, have no interest in reproducing or raising kids. Do we have malfunctioning brains, too?

[andy6915]

We need to eat and sleep and pee in order to live. We do not need to have sex.

Wrong. We do. Will you die without it? No. But sexual release is extremely important to mental and stress related health. Ridiculously important. Like I can't even describe how important "important".

 

And technically you don't need to eat or pee or poop to live either. Modern day medical tech can do all of those for you. How do you think people in 10 year comas get by?

[Heimdall]

We need to eat and sleep and pee in order to live. We do not need to have sex.

 

Here's an analogy for you: most people want to have children. That's a fundamental human desire, one that our species wouldn't be here with out. Some of us, however, have no interest in reproducing or raising kids. Do we have malfunctioning brains, too?

From an evolutionary perspective?  Yes.  The instinct to reproduce is pretty elementary.

 

That's not to say I think sex is necessary to live an emotionally healthy life and have stable relationships.

[Phate Phoenix]

You know why? Because it doesn't make any damn sense. Sex and wanting it is one of the basest things about us, up there with wanting to sleep and eat and pee when our bladders are full and crap when our intestines are full and pulling your hand away from a hot surface. Not wanting sex is like not wanting to ever eat or sleep, it's just ludicrous and a sign of a brain that obviously has some malfunction. That last part may sound offensive, but imagine you met someone who truly and completely hated the idea of ever needing to eat to the point where they prefer a needle in their arm pumping nutrients in them over eating. Would you not think "this person is messed up"? That's how us non-asexual see you. It's just so out there and strange and obviously abnormal that your only reaction can only be confusion.

 

[andy6915]

 

So a GIF image instead of an actual argument? So you can't actually debate my points. When someone just posts images, it means they've ran out of legitimate arguments or never had any to start with. Considering that, I think I'm done here.

[Omikuji]

sociopath? oh, i dunno, the killing part maybe? (i haven't figured out the nested quotations yet, do they even exist here?)

i'm reffering to a concept of making a NPC asexual romance option. and since it's RPG there is a good chance a PC can be whomever you wish. mine are usually killing bunch of other people

 

from what i understand there are few types of asexuality (some of them consider physical attaction, defined sexuality, like... hetero asexuals? it pretty much blows my mind but i digress). doesn't it make the whole concept a bit too vague to fight for it's inclusion?

 

There's so many sub types of sextuality that it's really become rediculous. But, why exclude? People scream for playersextuality, and bioware answers with some characters just aren't logically into that so they wont have it. So why not have it, a character isn't interested in sex but still wants to have a romance? It would match what Bioware is talking about with having characters only having a set sexuality dependant on the outlook of the character and what they're into.

 

A great thing would be if a character was actually asextual like, Cole. Cole is perfect for that if you go by the books and if he has that outlook on life still. People cring at the idea of him as a sextual romance, myself included, but him as an asextual one would be perfect.

 

You know why? Because it doesn't make any damn sense. Sex and wanting it is one of the basest things about us, up there with wanting to sleep and eat and pee when our bladders are full and crap when our intestines are full and pulling your hand away from a hot surface. Not wanting sex is like not wanting to ever eat or sleep, it's just ludicrous and a sign of a brain that obviously has some malfunction. That last part may sound offensive, but imagine you met someone who truly and completely hated the idea of ever needing to eat to the point where they prefer a needle in their arm pumping nutrients in them over eating. Would you not think "this person is messed up"? That's how us non-asexual see you. It's just so out there and strange and obviously abnormal that your only reaction can only be confusion.

 

 

So, as an example, automatically me and my significant other who have been in a relationship for 5 years, planning on getting married and are in an asextual relationship is 'messed up' to people? Something is wrong with us because we don't want to have sex with each other? We love each other dearly and want nothing more than to be with each other forever and keep each other safe and warm, but it doesn't count at all because our relationship isn't built around having sex with each other or kissing? We want to adopt maybe one day and be able to have a family, but nope somethings completely wrong with us because we don't want to have sex to carry a child to term?

 

Yeah okay. 

[Andraste_Reborn]

But sexual release is extremely important to mental and stress related health. Ridiculously important. Like I can't even describe how important "important".

 

For some people, maybe. For others, it isn't. Asexuals fall into that category, along with other people who have no trouble being celibate and don't find it at all stressful.

[Heimdall]

Wrong. We do. Will you die without it? No. But sexual release is extremely important to mental and stress related health. Ridiculously important. Like I can't even describe how important "important".

Bare in mind, I imagine quite a lot of the stress many feel over not having sex is societal pressure, not built in.

[BronzTrooper]

You know why? Because it doesn't make any damn sense. Sex and wanting it is one of the basest things about us, up there with wanting to sleep and eat and pee when our bladders are full and crap when our intestines are full and pulling your hand away from a hot surface. Not wanting sex is like not wanting to ever eat or sleep, it's just ludicrous and a sign of a brain that obviously has some malfunction. That last part may sound offensive, but imagine you met someone who truly and completely hated the idea of ever needing to eat to the point where they prefer a needle in their arm pumping nutrients in them over eating. Would you not think "this person is messed up"? That's how us non-asexual see you. It's just so out there and strange and obviously abnormal that your only reaction can only be confusion.

 

You hear that?  That's me facepalming.

 

Look, yes sex is an integral part of reproduction, but it isn't necessary for the individual to live.  Eating is so necessary for survival that it's deeply ingrained into our brain functions.  Unless someone has a mental deformity, they won't not have a desire to eat when they're hungry.  From what I've gathered, an asexual person is someone who doesn't have the same desire to have sex that most people do.  That doesn't necessarily mean that they are against having sex.  It just means that they won't have the same urge to have sex with someone just based on appearance.

 

I don't see it as weird, tbh.  I actually think it's weirder that people think it's absurd.  

[House Lannister]

No sex?

 

I'm out.

[Sir DeLoria]

Would you not think "this person is messed up"? That's how us non-asexual see you.

God no! You might be so ignorant as to think so, but don't involve us normal non-asexuals into this.

[BronzTrooper]

So a GIF image instead of an actual argument? So you can't actually debate my points. When someone just posts images, it means they've ran out of legitimate arguments or never had any to start with. Considering that, I think I'm done here.

 

And now you've got me shaking my head at you...

 

When someone posts a gif like the one Phate Phoenix posted, that means they're done arguing over something completely stupid (I know, I've done it too).  Odds are, Phoenix has plenty of arguments to combat your 'points' as you've called them.  S/he is just not going to bother continuing arguing with you.

 

You know what?  I'm not even going to bother arguing with you either.  I'm out.

[Sir DeLoria]

So a GIF image instead of an actual argument? So you can't actually debate my points. When someone just posts images, it means they've ran out of legitimate arguments or never had any to start with. Considering that, I think I'm done here.

Satisfied? In your case it just means, that your arguments are too silly and baseless to even take seriously.

[Nightwing99]

What is the difference between  Asexual romance and friendship  

[mopotter]

They can't just keep adding more and more stuff like this. After asexual romance the next request would be polyamory. After polyamory it would be cuckolding. Etc. It's too much time and resources devoted to something that a tiny minority of players would experience and it's a never-ending list of requests to meet.

Just a side note which since I haven't finished all the pages, has probably already been mentioned.  Jade Empire - the guy could have both Dawn Star and Silk Fox if he worked it right.  Female didn't get this extra bonus just Sky.   So they have already done the 3some.

[Phate Phoenix]

 

What is the difference between  Asexual romance and friendship  

 

 

Romantic feelings.

[Nightwing99]

Romantic feelings.

 

 Technically the two is   having  deep Feeling for some one  and that some one Close to your heart and you will do anything for him or her 

[Vapaa]

There's so many sub types of sextuality that it's really become rediculous.

 

To my understanding, asexuality is not a "sexuality" in the "sexual orientation" sense. I consider "sexuality" just to cover the Kinsey scale, but that doesn't mean it's the only aspect of one's general sexual behavior.

 

Asexuality is, for me, an end of the sex drive scale (to other being nymphomaniac), it's a certain need for sex (or lack of therof) that is unreleated to attraction to a particular gender (gender being an whole other animal).

[Who Knows]

Asexuality is a real thing.

If you can imagine being in a room with people you don't find sexually attractive (or even just not wanting to have sex with them) then you can imagine being an asexual on that level. Now instead of the room it's the whole world.

 

I don't see any reason to deny how asexuals describe their orientation or lackthereof, just because YOU don't get it.

[Nightwing99]

I will  try to predicte the next similar  Thread  to this  and i predicte bromance    

[Rosey]

This not getting it thing is silly, so for folks still strugling with this -- let me put it into game world terms.

 

The Qunari (the 'religion' for clarification purposes) do not believe in having sex for sex's sake. Sex is for procreation. That doesn't mean that followers of the Qun don't form romantic relationships. It just means they don't have sex. In fact, when it's time TO have sex, the Higher ups select a partner for you - you have sex and make babies - and move on. It's a very solid example of a whole society of people who are, for all reasons, asexual. They do have romantic relationships. They don't have sexual ones. The two are separate functions entirely.

 

Sten is actually a very good example of that. In DAO he can "fall in love" as it were, with the Warden. He will begin to call you Kadan, which is a term of affection literally meaning "of the heart" - aka, someone worth loving. It's separate all together to the term used for non-qun members who are worthy of respect - Basalit-an.

 

Sten calling the Warden kadan indicates that he has feelings for them beyond just general respect and friendship. The Warden is then someone whom Sten would willingly spend the rest of his days with, even die for. He even goes so far to invite the Warden, a quite literal Bas (outsider) home to Seharon with him. He literally wants to take you home to meet the folks. Even to the point of wanting that he has NO want to convert the Warden to the Qun. Which is probably the absolute biggest indication that he feels more then just outright friendship.

 

Taking that ALL into account, he still has zero interest in doing the horizontal mambo with them. Not because he doesn't feel romantic feelings for the Warden. It has wholly to do with the fact that the Qunari, by very nature of their philosophy, are an asexual society.

 

So for ease of wrapping your minds around it - someone who is Asexual does not, at all, need or usually want, to have sex with someone to express their romantic feelings towards someone. That doesn't necessarily mean they wont for the sake of their partner. It just means that they feel that sex is sex (a thing you do to make babies) and romantic love is love. And the two don't at all need to intermingle to have a fulfilling, life long relationship.