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#51
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we have 2 kingdoms(Ferelden and Orlais), many factions to side/fight and 8 Inquisitors(dwarf, elf, kossith and humans females and males) who can be mages/warriors/rogues

 

so we have 2 humans Inquisitors and 6 non-humans

 

and most of those companions/advisors because many will not like what we will do and we cant be friends with anyone...if we choose 1 side we loose another

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so what we have

 

1)Humans LI and non LI

Cassandra-Orlais Chantry Seeker/Templar-female Orlais human-Li
Cullen-Orlais Chantry Templar-male human-Li

Dorian-Tevinter-male Tevinter human-not comfirmed as Li or non Li
Blackwall-Grey Wardens- male human-not comfirmed as Li or non Li but unlikely because he is old GW

Vivienne-Orlais Chantry Circle-female Orlais human-not comfirmed as Li or non Li
"Dark skinned female near Blackwall"- female human-not comfirmed as Li or non Li

Lelianna-Orlais Chantry Seeker-female Orlais human-not a LI
Cole-demon male human-never a Li


2)Elven Li and non LI

Sera-elf rebels rogue-only female elf-lesbian =_=

Solas-dalish?-only  male elf-not comfirmed as Li or non LI

3)Dwarven non Li

Varrick-only male dwarf-not a LI

4)Kossith Li or non LI

Iron Bull-Qunari Ben-Hasrath-only Qunari male kossith-not comfirmed as Li or non LI but unlikely because he is old and Qunari

 

 

so as you can see most of our companions/advisors(i really do not like that our forced "advisors" are stupid Templar bastard Сullen who kills dozens of innocent mages and Orlais/Chantry/Seeker bard Lelianna what i killed in origins) are

 

1)humans-8 humans(4 females and 4 malesand 4 non-humans(only 1 female(elf) and 3 males)

2)Orlais and Chantry/Templars related...the factions that many really hate and do not-never side with them

 

 

so if we have only 2 straight /2 bi /2 gay options and all Li what we have are from companions/advisors what we see, so bioware really say for 6 non-humans Inquisitors(especially mages) gtfo and play the humans and romance and side with Orlais/Chantry/Templars/Seekers related guys or you will not have any(especially straight) LI and most of companions

 

so dwarf Inquisitor have nothing, Kossith Inquisitor have nothing, and elven Inquisitor have nothing because Sera is a lesbian now(not understand why not Vivienne or Cassandra or Scribble)

 

i wanted not just avoid, but to execute Cassandra, Cullen, Cole, Leliana(what must be dead from origins) and nothing what i could see in Inquisition(when them will "save some puppies" and portraited as a "really good peoples") would change my opinion as with others..the sides were chosen and will be no compromise

 

i would like to send away Varrick what i tired off and especially Vivienne because she is not a mage for what i fihgted in DAO and DA2 and will do in Inquisition..she is not like Fionna or Anders or Meriil or Vellanna...i fighted against Chantry Circle, Templars and Orlais Empire not for them and Vivienne want her seat and political powers back not to just help mages

 

Iron Bull dissapoint me because he is not a Tal-Vashot who fight with Qunari but a just another Qunari like Sten and Tallis what i never like and wanted to kill her and give Aalit papers to Thedas Kingdoms like i am done with Tome of Coslun what was send to Tevinter Imperium...i do not let Bull to give Qunari any info and if he will not became Tal Vashot and stays in Qun-so he will turn against me and i will kill him

 

i really do not like that we forced to have and romance only Orlais/Chantry/Templars and humans...and devs were said that "we are not related to the Orlais Chantry" what as i can see this is a bullsh*t



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I don't quite get what you are going at for some parts.

Do you really mean that romance would only be optional within race or something?

That a dwarf won't have anyone to romance unless Varric is romancable? Which he might be (I sure hope so - Gaider always wanted to write a dwarf romance and Varric was so close to be an LI in DAII!)

 

And I don't think that it is so simple that if you side agains the Chantry you will lose Vivienne, Cassandra, Cullen and Leliana.
"Whatever we were before we are now the Inquisition."

 

This game is about more than just the Chantry vs The Mages. The war may have started that way, but now they have the fade rifts and demons destroying the World and working together is key.
I am certain that it will have an impact on your companions and that you may even loose a few if you continue to ****** them off (as you can in Origins, you can loose ALL of them - though not Alistair or Morrigan until after the Landsmeet)

And for example, the Iron Bull is supposed to be very promiscuous and will surely be an LI - or at least a chance for some casual sex and its very possible that he is Bi as well. And if he was a Tal-Vashot he would never have joined the Inqusition so that's why he's not one of them. "We" are not fighting the Qun in this game, a Tal-Vashot would never be our ally.

 

Bioware has said that there will be more LI's in this game then in any other Bioware game before so there is a  possibility that all of them, or almost all of them; will be LI's :) That's what I'm hoping for at least ^^



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Varrick, Cole and Lelianna 100% will not be a Li and i really doubt that old Qunari Bull and old Grey Warden Blackwall would be a LI too...

 

and Devs already comfirmed about gender, race and side(choose mages loose someone) restrictions for LI

 

i would not like if the  Cassandra, Cole, Cullen and Leliana. have a "Fenris syndrom" what he have with mage hawke who always support mages and never be friend with him but he follows him untill the end and only when he betrays you what was too obvious...i really do not like that and do not want "Fenrises" in my party and this would be stupid...i am never like and never respect Cassandra, Сole, Cullen and Leliana and i execute them if i would have this option but i do not think that we will have

 

about Bull he is a  Tal-Vashot mercenary like Kadan-Fe what we see in DAO but this is just a mask because he is Qunari spy...this is what dissapoint me in him

 

i hope that we have a more LI(they only said about more Li than we have in DAO or DA2) and we just does not see them because they would not be only from companions and advisors what we already see on screenshot



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Seemingly random changes in text and background color make my eyes hurt.


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Fenris does not betray you if you make his personal quests and gets enough rivalry - and I think that there will be such a system here too.

Of course there will be some choices that will be a breaking point for some characters (Like Killing Caradin for Shale, destroying the Ashes for Wynne and - depending on yor answers and if she's hardened - Leliana, or recruiting Loghain for Alistair) and then that's the way it is.

It adds to the game and makes you really think through your decisions.

 

It's good if we get some restrictions in LI depending on our choices - like I wrote in my first post in this thread. I want all of them to be LI's just not in every playthrough because it's simply not realistic that everyone wants you! (like with DAII)



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"rivalty" was a bullsh*t and for me its like masochism of my companions especially rivalty romance, i never done special rivalty because i always was truthful with companions and npc so i never have 100% rivalty

 

when you do Fenris quest you can say for Danarius to take him and then change your mind and fenris would be ok



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What I also would like to see is the "polygamy system" from Dragon Age: Origins again. If you decide to be a two timing idiot and actually try to romance two person at a time. I want to see the two companions having a banter about who should back off or else they will fight each other who should get the person, while your wiser companions would give you advice not to play with fire: just like Wynne when she notice the MP is cheating on their original LI with someone else.

Is this morality good? No but it adds more drama and life like reaction between your companions.
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Not everything in life is morally good, but some people do cheat. And in certain situations you could fall for two people...so, it's realistic :)



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If we do get to cheat on our companions I'd love for companions to have different reactions to it, it would feel much more natural if not all the companions had the same reaction and some took it harder than others and some just couldn't care less. While I never cheated on LIs in DAO wasn't there some kind of conversation that you could have with them to lie to them about you cheating on them? Or was that a mod I saw I'm really not sure. It would be interesting to see your PC in DAI try something similar and depending on the LI or certain stats you have that you could get away with it for a while but you'd have to keep lying and covering your ass if you wanted to keep both LIs you were trying to get with.



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I very much like the idea of certain actions cutting potential romances off ("Hey Cullen I just killed your family, destroyed all the templars and let blood mage apostates rule orlais. Wanna bang?"). However I dont like the idea of choices in CC cutting off options (unless its gender) like classes and races.

 

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Not this again - I mean yeah, I can agree that If you do something the character just can't accept (like tainting the ashes in DA:O), than a romance should (in theory) be impossible (unless you opened the characters eyes to see the world your way...that's what I kind of hate about Leliana - you can't convince her that the chantry is bad...or at least not always right (no dialogue options and she would probably not believe you anyway))

 

I mean, companions should confront you, if you do something they despise...but them just packing up and leaving (and there being nothing you can do...that's kind of bad, too)? - No.

 

As for race, gender and class restricting you by default? - No...It's bad form IMO (making it harder - maybe...but I would not like that much either)

 

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-.-

 

Not this again - I mean yeah, I can agree that If you do something the character just can't accept (like tainting the ashes in DA:O), than a romance should (in theory) be impossible (unless you opened the characters eyes to see the world your way...that's what I kind of hate about Leliana - you can't convince her that the chantry is bad...or at least not always right (no dialogue options and she would probably not believe you anyway))

 

I mean, companions should confront you, if you do something they despise...but them just packing up and leaving (and there being nothing you can do...that's kind of bad, too)? - No.

 

As for race, gender and class restricting you by default? - No...It's bad form IMO (making it harder - maybe...but I would not like that much either)

 

greetings LAX

 

Somewhat agreed some things shouldn't be that ends that type of deal but others are like the example the person you quoted used with killing an LI's family or in DA2 how you could cut it off with Anders but making a deal with Topor during Night Terrors. Other things should have some options to argue your side to your LI at the very least like how some of the rivalmances worked in DA2. Some things the companions won't budge on and while that may be a bummer to some people (like me who wants to be everyones friend) it also makes them more of their own person that won't bend to or fro to the PCs demands. That said I still think an option to debate with your companions and voice your side would be very welcomed Maker knows I'd use the hell out of that option. 

 

I think the race thing is pretty much confirmed by this point though I'm not entirely convinced they mean it'll restrict you from certain LIs (cause that would just be an ugly horrible trait for any of them to have) but I'm not holding out hope that they don't mean that. I think it was said that was due to animation restrictions more so than story and character.



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"rivalty" was a bullsh*t and for me its like masochism of my companions especially rivalty romance, i never done special rivalty because i always was truthful with companions and npc so i never have 100% rivalty
 
when you do Fenris quest you can say for Danarius to take him and then change your mind and fenris would be ok

See, I really loved the rivalmance system. I always thought it was very much a case of helpless attraction, going against their better judgement, and overcoming their differences. I could never be with someone who agreed with me on everything, I'd never have anything to say :lol: my fiancé and I argue like cat and dog overeverything, but that's what keeps it fun! They do say opposites attract :) as much as the friendship-based romances were more stable and outwardly healthy, there's nothing inherently wrong with being attracted to someone who challenges your beliefs, and who shows you a different way to see the world, whether or not you agree with them :)

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What I also would like to see is the "polygamy system" from Dragon Age: Origins again. If you decide to be a two timing idiot and actually try to romance two person at a time. I want to see the two companions having a banter about who should back off or else they will fight each other who should get the person, while your wiser companions would give you advice not to play with fire: just like Wynne when she notice the MP is cheating on their original LI with someone else.

Is this morality good? No but it adds more drama and life like reaction between your companions.

 

I want the two-timed LIs to hook up with each other, ending any romance with to PC.

 

That'll teach you to be a cheating jerk.



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Still waiting on news of rumoured Flemeth romamce...

Hopefully she keeps her DA2 look *drools*

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Wait... Wait... Wait...

There are race restrictions and choice restrictions too? 

Damn... And I thought I could get away with playing who I wanted to play.



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Wait... Wait... Wait...

There are race restrictions and choice restrictions too? 

Damn... And I thought I could get away with playing who I wanted to play.

Choice restrictions were always kind of there though made a choice a companion didn't like then the companion would lose approval or gain rivalry so that's not really new, the race gates on the other hand are new and awful and should burn in a fiery pit :)



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What I'd like for relationships is 

 

1) being able to hit on everyone regardless of orientation compatibility

 

2) that some characters would hit on you and you can choose to turn them down or not  (even shady moves like saying "sorry I'm gay" to one person then start a straight relationship with another )

 

Also I think rivalry was a dumb idea because the gauge made you buddies no matter what. I was aggressive and insulting to aveline all the time, even told her I was glad her husband died, but she still wanted to talk to me about leandra dying as if we were friends. It was like "UGH, stfu, you're not my friend stupid cow, I hate you, I've been nothing but mean for YEARS, take a hint dammit



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Leliana would also have harsh words for you. Don't ****** off Nightingale.



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I'd like to see date nights with you LI before the sex scene. I'd also like social gatherings with one or more companions to unwind a bit between quests, main chapter events, etc. Anything from drinks at the local pub, to chatting around the campfire while traveling, to sparring/target practice.

 

It's nice that we have been able to give the companions gifts, but I'd like them to give my character a gift as well.

 

I remember seeing Anders in DA2 try to give a pillow to Varric and feeling slightly jealous for my poor Hawke XD I like the idea of the LIs giving gifts to the main character :)



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Dat necromancy.


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I agree OP - more consequences, because really? there are non :|  and hell, they can disagree with almost everything but you will still have a good outcome if you really want it? doesn't make alot of sence.


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To be perfectly honest, I can see all characters, including Sera and other non straight minions sway the way I want them to. DA:I has introduced blood ritual. If you want someone to obey you then puff and it is done. In fact I wonder why it is not in the game already. I really liked to control my minions in the Jade Empire. We should be able to manipulate our minions however we like if we are mages. Well, at least I can see a 'romance' coming out of it; consequences and all that 'stuff'.