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[Silith]

Ah thanks for your input everyone! I had forgotten what a headache it is to upgrade a PC, sigh. I really don't want to mess with it outside of swapping out the graphics card, it's just too much work to replace everything. Glad I finally bought a console...

 

I looked at the 750 Ti before I read your replies - so it seems like a good choice and it's quite affordable. I'll have a look and compare the 750 Ti and GT 640 available in stores here. There should be enough space for either inside the case, I don't have anything else installed on the MB. Need to check the power supply, though, I wouldn't be surprised if that were too weak...

I'm guessing that there won't be much difference between the two cards performance wise for me since my CPU bottlenecks the graphics card anyway; but I also wouldn't be surprised if there is little difference in price between the two either, depending on where you buy, so I could go for the 750 Ti. I'll keep my eyes open, it's still 4 more months until DA:I anyway.

[HornedGod]

To those with 2 GB graphics cards, yes, you'll be able to play the game, but don't expect to be able to max everything out. If BF 4 is the standard until full specs come out, that game's recommended spec is for a 3 GB card. Just don't folks getting their hopes up.

[Sanunes]

Ah thanks for your input everyone! I had forgotten what a headache it is to upgrade a PC, sigh. I really don't want to mess with it outside of swapping out the graphics card, it's just too much work to replace everything. Glad I finally bought a console...

 

I looked at the 750 Ti before I read your replies - so it seems like a good choice and it's quite affordable. I'll have a look and compare the 750 Ti and GT 640 available in stores here. There should be enough space for either inside the case, I don't have anything else installed on the MB. Need to check the power supply, though, I wouldn't be surprised if that were too weak...

I'm guessing that there won't be much difference between the two cards performance wise for me since my CPU bottlenecks the graphics card anyway; but I also wouldn't be surprised if there is little difference in price between the two either, depending on where you buy, so I could go for the 750 Ti. I'll keep my eyes open, it's still 4 more months until DA:I anyway.

 

According to a website I use to compare video cards your GT 545 uses 70 Watts of power where the GTX 750 Ti uses 60 Watts. Its primary design I believe is for Home Theater PCs for its low draw and smaller size, but it makes a good low to moderate level video card too.

 

Now from my understanding, which could be wrong for most listings like that for power is the maximum needed while at 100% load, but since there is no standard there can be other companies that test and give numbers are lower load ratings.  I would think it would be about the same as what you have for power requirements, but it never hurts too look more intensely to make sure.

Modifié par Sanunes, 06 juin 2014 - 09:49 .

[Deflagratio]

Here is the minimum specs for the Hanger module of Star Citizen 

Windows 7 or 8 64-bit Dual Core CPU Intel: Core2 Duo 2.4Ghz / AMD: Phenom X2 8GB of RAM NVidia Geforce 460GTX/AMD Radeon HD5850 DirectX 11. 1

The point I'm making is that the average O.S uses about 1GB RAM and a average modern game around 2-3GBso theres 4GB already and if you want smooth performance and can't afford a high end GPU you definately do not want to be maxing out your RAM, like anything else its always better to have some headroom and the more the better.I can easily get by on the 16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro 2400Mhz that I have however I'll be upping it to 32GB so its one less thing I have to upgrade later allowing me to dedicate more of my future finance to other components, I'm getting a 1300W PSU for the same reason its better to only have to replace a component once every 6yrs as opposed to replacing it twice or more in the same time period.

 

I always plan my rig with longevity and horsepower in mind so right now 2 R9 290's is likely overkill however it'll give enough horsepower to play the lastest games at decent quality settings for likely the next 4-5yrs 

 

lolcryeneginegames.

 

Worst thing Star Citizen could have done was get made on that technological disaster. But I guess when you're game is already bought before development is complete, you can get away with that. Kickstarter for the win!

 

*Last line isn't sarcastic. It's actually cool that niches can thrive through kickstarter, just don't be surprised if the game is all sparkles and no fun.

[DisturbedJim83]

lolcryeneginegames.

 

Worst thing Star Citizen could have done was get made on that technological disaster. But I guess when you're game is already bought before development is complete, you can get away with that. Kickstarter for the win!

 

*Last line isn't sarcastic. It's actually cool that niches can thrive through kickstarter, just don't be surprised if the game is all sparkles and no fun.

Well so far the Arena Commander(Dog Fight Module) is a real blast even in pre alpha its more stable then Battlefield 4 lol

[Silith]

According to a website I use to compare video cards your GT 545 uses 70 Watts of power where the GTX 750 Ti uses 60 Watts. Its primary design I believe is for Home Theater PCs for its low draw and smaller size, but it makes a good low to moderate level video card too.

 

Really? That's interesting, the only figures I found was that for the GT 545 a 350W PSU was recommended and for the 750 Ti a 400W (I might be off on the figures a bit, but I know that the listed recommended PSU was higher for the 750Ti).

 

Now your figures make sense too given that the 750Ti is praised for being really power-saving. Hmmm... Have to research that some more I guess. Or remove the PSU out of my PC and check how powerful it actually is, heh.

[DisturbedJim83]

Just added in my 1300W EVGA Supernova G2 here's a brief look at my rig as it stands before I button it back up so the side panels are off 

 

 

 

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Links are to individual pictures in my FB photo album where they are uploaded as i ain't got a clue how else to do them 

[Toasted Llama]

I'm worried DAI might cause (minor) issues because I've got a rather crappy CPU (compared to the rest of my laptop, that is...) and lots of graphical/fps issues with previous Bioware games.

My specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-4700HQ @ 2.40GHz (I believe it's only a quad core so here's my problem)
RAM: 32 GB
GPU: Nvidia GTX 780M  4GB
OS: Windows 8.1

Resolution: 1920x1080

I know my specs are pretty decent, but AC4 runs at +/- 30 FPS on medium-high settings which is... crappy... considering the game came for free together with my laptop, just to 'show' how 'awesome' the laptop is. You'd think the laptop and game would be optimized. I've never played BF4, so I can't compare it to that :S
Also wanna point out that I'm a sucker for good graphics and minor issues for me means not being able to run it smoothly beyond medium settings.

Anyone has a clue if I will be able to AT LEAST hit medium-high with 30-60 FPS?

[Sanunes]

I'm worried DAI might cause (minor) issues because I've got a rather crappy CPU (compared to the rest of my laptop, that is...) and lots of graphical/fps issues with previous Bioware games.

My specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-4700HQ @ 2.40GHz (I believe it's only a quad core so here's my problem)
RAM: 32 GB
GPU: Nvidia GTX 780M  4GB
OS: Windows 8.1

Resolution: 1920x1080

I know my specs are pretty decent, but AC4 runs at +/- 30 FPS on medium-high settings which is... crappy... considering the game came for free together with my laptop, just to 'show' how 'awesome' the laptop is. You'd think the laptop and game would be optimized. I've never played BF4, so I can't compare it to that :S
Also wanna point out that I'm a sucker for good graphics and minor issues for me means not being able to run it smoothly beyond medium settings.

Anyone has a clue if I will be able to AT LEAST hit medium-high with 30-60 FPS?

 

If it is an i7 its not a quad core processor, its four processors that are hyper-threaded to count as eight processors. The exact way Dragon Age: Inquisition will run is still really an unknown for they haven't released the requirements from the game. the closest we have is Battlefield 4 and honestly I don't trust any of the requirements that have been released for any of the "next gen" games because they are all over the place.

[Toasted Llama]

If it is an i7 its not a quad core processor, its four processors that are hyper-threaded to count as eight processors. The exact way Dragon Age: Inquisition will run is still really an unknown for they haven't released the requirements from the game. the closest we have is Battlefield 4 and honestly I don't trust any of the requirements that have been released for any of the "next gen" games because they are all over the place.

I remember someone telling me that if it's 4 processors, regardless of the amount of threads per processor, it counts a quadcore, which is why I thought I had a quad core. I was aware of the multiple threads per processor, but does it make any difference in processing power? I was alway convinced that an actual eight core was much more powerfull than a quad core with multiple threads and that multiple threads only made multitasking and spreading out workload easier.

That being said, I'd say your 'next gen requirements being all over the place' argument is a good point, hadn't really thought about that.

[Sanunes]

I remember someone telling me that if it's 4 processors, regardless of the amount of threads per processor, it counts a quadcore, which is why I thought I had a quad core. I was aware of the multiple threads per processor, but does it make any difference in processing power? I was alway convinced that an actual eight core was much more powerfull than a quad core with multiple threads and that multiple threads only made multitasking and spreading out workload easier.

That being said, I'd say your 'next gen requirements being all over the place' argument is a good point, hadn't really thought about that.

 

It can get little murky, lets see if I can explain it.  The basic processor can only handle a single thread at a time, which is how the AMD computers work so when you see an "eight core" requirement its to do with AMD processors.  Intel has hyper-threading build into the i5 and i7 level of processors so they will always have less processors, but each of those processors can handle two tasks at the same time, so the computer will show that it can handle eight tasks using four processors.

 

When system requirements when it says eight core or i7 for processor requirements, they are really meaning an AMD eight core system or an Intel i7 system and not an i7 system with 8 processors.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

I appreciated the discussion of "cores" vs. "processors" (and Intel's vs. AMD's definitions of these terms) but I don't think Silith is looking to change CPUs! 

 

And a power supply transplant can be a real bear if you've never done it before and happen to need some special connector/adapter. 

 

So sticking with the lower-powered cards (the ones that use only the PCI bus) is probably best.  My old rig had a 350W PSU, and drove the GT 640 and an Intel Core2Quad (Q6600 @ 2.4Mhz) with 8GB RAM and three HDDs (yes, three! One Win8.1, one Win7, and one WinXP) just fine. 

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Hey guys, I'm like really nervous my laptop won't run DA:I on playable FPS (~40) with ~Low-Medium settings, but I don't really have much of an option till like next year ;-; 
My specs:

-6 GB RAMS
-AMD Radeon 7850M
-i7-4700MQ @2.4GHz
-Windows 8 @64-bit

*fingers crossed*

[Warden_of_all]

Amd processors are multi thread processors. My amd 9500 black is a quad core and it handles multi threading up to 4 threads per processor. It works beautifully for my graphics programs like 3d studio and Maya.

[Willhelm]

It looks like I'll need a new system to play this game. I'd love to get advice on a few questions:

1. Is waiting until September/October a good idea before buying? I'm not sure what components are expected to be released over the next few months or what might happen to computer prices. At the very least, I'll wait until the pc recommended specs are published. But, I'm not sure if I can expect to get better pricing if I wait until the last minute before launch.

2. Does anyone have a good recommendation for high "bang for the buck" GPU? I'm hoping to spend about $1000 on the new computer, and hope to either make this a first time self built, or maybe pay my local Micro Center to assemble it for me. Playing around with builds, it looks like I'll spend from $150 to $250 on the GPU. Is AMD or an nvidia a better option at that price point?

3. Overclocking. I have no clue what it is, if I want it, how to do it, or what changes to component picks I should make depending on the answers. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

[DisturbedJim83]

It looks like I'll need a new system to play this game. I'd love to get advice on a few questions:

1. Is waiting until September/October a good idea before buying? I'm not sure what components are expected to be released over the next few months or what might happen to computer prices. At the very least, I'll wait until the pc recommended specs are published. But, I'm not sure if I can expect to get better pricing if I wait until the last minute before launch.

2. Does anyone have a good recommendation for high "bang for the buck" GPU? I'm hoping to spend about $1000 on the new computer, and hope to either make this a first time self built, or maybe pay my local Micro Center to assemble it for me. Playing around with builds, it looks like I'll spend from $150 to $250 on the GPU. Is AMD or an nvidia a better option at that price point?

3. Overclocking. I have no clue what it is, if I want it, how to do it, or what changes to component picks I should make depending on the answers. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Well at a $1000 budget the new devils canyon intel processors i5 4690K and i7 4790K) and z97 Boards that they run on are probs out of your price range, I'd suggest a AMD Kaveri build with maybe 2 R9 270X's in Crossfire or a single R9 280 X and 8GB of DDR3 memory rated at 1866Mhz or faster  with a single R9 280X you should be able to put a build together for under $1000 also get a 650-800W PSU that is at least bronze rated.

 

If AMD GPU's are noth your thing then I'd go for a 770 or if you can afford it a 780 non Ti

[DisturbedJim83]

Kaveri build with 1000 bucks budget?

 

WAT.???

 

 

I'd go FX8350, a R9 280X, 8GB 1866MHz RAM (4GB is entirely sufficient, but RAM is dirtcheap anyway). Season that with a good mainboard (I hear good things about the 990FX chipset Asus Sabertooth, though it is on the expensive end of the spectrum) and with AMD components a good 600/650W PSU and you have a solid system. From there on you can decide if you want a small SSD for the OS and how you want to pack things up (case and CPU cooling).

Its a good alternative, the main reason I suggested Kaveri is because its the only AMD Chip that supports PCI-E Gen 3 so you'd get maximum performance out of any modern card.

[DisturbedJim83]

That's around 3-4% performance difference we're talking between 3.0 vs 2.0. Hardly noticable for a gamer who isn't going to run extreme SLI/CrossFire setups or is trying to break benchmark scores.

True however by going with a Kaveri build if they can afford a more Powerful Graphics card later on they can get the full benefit of its power without having to upgrade the motherboad and or CPU later on.

 

I was going to go for a FX-8 9350 myself till I saw it didn't support Gen 3 ended up going with the i5 4670K Haswell which was the same price as a FX-8 9350

[Eleinehmm]

While we are at it, does anyone know a good computer store in Cambridge, MA area? Or anywhere really, providing they have free US shipping and good hardware prices ?

[MarchWaltz]

While we are at it, does anyone know a good computer store in Cambridge, MA area? Or anywhere really, providing they have free US shipping and good hardware prices ?

Computer parts are best bought online, since they are cheaper. Newegg and Amazon have been my go to places.

[Eleinehmm]

Computer parts are best bought online, since they are cheaper. Newegg and Amazon have been my go to places.

 

All right, not really familiar with the way it works in the US, price-wise.