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[Talon_Wu]

I know I need to upgrade, but for people like me who are probably going to build a new computer just having a vague "use BF4..." as an idea of what I need is down right ridiculous. I get it, they need to optimize it, polish it, position it so it is truly at the end of the rainbow. But come on. 2 months to release date (unless they push it back again), it is one of the most anticipated games of the year...

 

But I digress. I've gone to pcpartspicker, and so have had others suggest something but I figure I will come here and see what people suggest.

 

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Processor: AMD x4 640 3.0gz

Ram: 8gb (2 4gb sticks, ddr3 i think)

GPU: AMD radeon 7700 1gb

PSU I am not sure, 

1tb HD

 

So I know processor needs to be upgraded, and pcpartspicker gave me 2 options, an AMD fx 4300 or an amd fx 6300. the 4300 is quad and the 6300 is 6 core. Any ideas? Is one much better then the other?

For video card, the two options were Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card or EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card. Does the 1gb extra make a big difference?

I should look at the delay as a chance to wait a month longer, but Civ Beyond Earth comes out next month and I would like to have the computer built by then. 

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/h7JG23

 

Upgrade the cpu, the one you have now is AM3, so they're compatible, if not optimal. Aftermarket cpu cooler (cooler, quieter, allows overclocking), video card, power supply, OS. Your memory is sufficient for gaming. You could push back a full build, and use these upgrades in the future, with an AM3+ motherboard.

[DisturbedJim83]

My bad, my budget is not more then 600-650 Canadian, I have other bills that are far more important than anything, even a game like this that I have been following since what seems like forever.

My understanding was AMD is better for a budget, but Intel is just better if you have no money issues?

I am thinking of going to NCIX and getting them to put it together for the extra 50 bucks because I really have no clue what I am doing inside a computer. 

 

I think i figured how to do the links now http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3X2P8d and http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/Zg3P8d I may have to buy Windows again since I do not think I can transfer the OS over to a new computer ( came pre-installed, no disks). Any suggestions on these? 

Sorry, one more question about overclocking: Is it worth it and what would be required if I decided to go that way?

On the second link I'd suggest dropping the SSD and putting that money towards either a better motherboard( EVGA/Asus) or a 2TB Mechanical SSD's are not really required unless you really care about booting into Windows in 8 seconds 

[DisturbedJim83]

If the 1000W PSU you're talking about doesn't cost much more than a decent 650W PSU, then the 1000W one is CRAP!

 

And 650W is hardly "barely enough". A system with a high end CPU, high end GPU and the whole rest doesn't draw much more than 450-500W under full load (unless you go full energy inefficient AMD with FX 9590 and R9 290X, then it will draw around 550-600W).

 

 

 

Stop spreading this "need more wattage" nonsense. The ONLY reason to go for a high wattage PSU is if the builder intends to add more GPUs.

So what happens if the user wants to add a second GPU later by following your advice they would have to also buy a more powerful PSU, its more cost effective to buy the most powerful PSU you can afford now instead of having to change it out later.

 

I'll likely only use 1000W or less of the 1300W capacity my PSU has however if I decide to go from 2 GPU's to 3 then I have the power to do it without have to buy yet another PSU, I plan long term not short term 

[Fidite Nemini]

So what happens if the user wants to add a second GPU later by following your advice they would have to also buy a more powerful PSU, its more cost effective to buy the most powerful PSU you can afford now instead of having to change it out later.

 

I'll likely only use 1000W or less of the 1300W capacity my PSU has however if I decide to go from 2 GPU's to 3 then I have the power to do it without have to buy yet another PSU, I plan long term not short term 

 

 

People who want to go with multi-GPU settings usually know beforehand that they might want to do that and can buy accordingly. But out of all those people who build a PC, a ridiculously miniscule number actually goes for multi-GPU systems.

 

I'll rather recommend advice meant for an average joe building a PC, than for one who intends to go and build a monster machine, in which case I am convinced they should go and look for thorough advice on their own, which would inevitably mean they'd also see your argument over upgradability and can decide whther to take my advice or not.

[Zered]

I hate quoting myself but...

Ok mates, need to know if need to upgrade some stuff. Will this crap run it on min spec?

 

AMD A8-6600K APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics

7.4 GB RAM

AMD Radeon HD 8570D

  Pixel Shader version   5.0   Vertex Shader version   5.0   Dedicated Video RAM   768 MB

Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit

[Verrenus]

I hate quoting myself but...

 

Yup, it should run on minimum settings! However, you would probably get a better experience on consoles than on that machine, I'm afraid!

[thevaleyard]

I hate quoting myself but...

 

What the above poster said. But DAI also supports Mantle which gives a pretty good FPS boost to weaker CPUs like yours so you might be able to run on medium. 

[Zered]

Alright then much thanks!

[EnergizerBunny211]

Hey y'all...this might be 'old news' but I just found out 2 minutes ago that Nvidia/EVGA has released the 970 and 980 series......Don't know why they skipped the 800 series monicker, but WOW y'all should see the specs on these bad boys!  

 

http://www.canadacom...0&cPath=43_1200

 

Makes me kick my butt for not waiting just one more year... I rushed out and bought the 4GB 760 Dual FTW when it was brand new because I was in a rush to build a new system in the summer of 2013 (and that's a great card, believe me...Im very happy with it....) but all this new tech is making me drool and wish that I didn't suffer from Immediate Need Syndrome.  I wish I could practise delayed gratification and have more self discipline...instead of "see...want...must have= Immediate purchase"

 

Oh well.... *Begins planning future build in head....Making note to build completely with EVGA parts, as much as possible.*

[Osena109]

Hey y'all...this might be 'old news' but I just found out 2 minutes ago that Nvidia/EVGA has released the 970 and 980 series......Don't know why they skipped the 800 series monicker, but WOW y'all should see the specs on these bad boys!  

 

http://www.canadacom...0&cPath=43_1200

 

Makes me kick my butt for not waiting just one more year... I rushed out and bought the 4GB 760 Dual FTW when it was brand new because I was in a rush to build a new system in the summer of 2013 (and that's a great card, believe me...Im very happy with it....) but all this new tech is making me drool and wish that I didn't suffer from Immediate Need Syndrome.  I wish I could practise delayed gratification and have more self discipline...instead of "see...want...must have= Immediate purchase"

 

Oh well.... *Begins planning future build in head....Making note to build completely with EVGA parts, as much as possible.*

I can't even find   evga gtx 970 or gtx 980 am evga fan boy i want one for my future build

[EnergizerBunny211]

I can't even find   evga gtx 970 or gtx 980 am evga fan boy i want one for my future build

Do you have a CanadaCompters store in your city? (please don't tell me where you live, I'm not asking- that is not my intent...I respect your privacy). I am simply looking for a Y/N answer.   If yes....go to your nearest store.   If you live out West (ie Calgary, Vancouver etc) then NCIX is another great store and they have the 900 series in stock, I believe.

 

But yeah, man, EVGA all the way....I've had 3 evga cards over the years and never EVER had any problems with them whatsoever.  EVGA, has been making cards and other tech for Nvidia for at least 15 years, maybe more.  They're Nvidia's #1 go-to company, and rightfully so.  I think they make the best GPUs and Motherboards on the market (in terms of the good ol fashion values of Quality and Reliability....."they don't make'em like they used to" seems to fit alot of companies these days.  ASUS in particular!    The quality of ASUS is NOT what they were 10, 15 or 20 years ago....and that's a shame.

 

If you have an opportunities or means to do so, I would second your motion to make an EVGA branded build (as much as possible where parts apply).

 

But definitely do check out that link I pasted into my previous post.  www.canadacomputers.com

 

Happy Gaming!

[Osena109]

Do you have a CanadaCompters store in your city? (please don't tell me where you live, I'm not asking- that is not my intent...I respect your privacy). I am simply looking for a Y/N answer.   If yes....go to your nearest store.   If you live out West (ie Calgary, Vancouver etc) then NCIX is another great store and they have the 900 series in stock, I believe.

 

But yeah, man, EVGA all the way....I've had 3 evga cards over the years and never EVER had any problems with them whatsoever.  EVGA, has been making cards and other tech for Nvidia for at least 15 years, maybe more.  They're Nvidia's #1 go-to company, and rightfully so.  I think they make the best GPUs and Motherboards on the market (in terms of the good ol fashion values of Quality and Reliability....."they don't make'em like they used to" seems to fit alot of companies these days.  ASUS in particular!    The quality of ASUS is NOT what they were 10, 15 or 20 years ago....and that's a shame.

 

If you have an opportunities or means to do so, I would second your motion to make an EVGA branded build (as much as possible where parts apply).

 

But definitely do check out that link I pasted into my previous post.  www.canadacomputers.com

 

Happy Gaming!

No i don't live in Canada   my current ring evga z97 ftw i3 4130 evga gtx 780 3gb  6gb ram evga PCU cooler  evga  750 g2 psu   i don't bottleneck with my rig but i want to upgrade to  broadwell when it comes out

[felisleo]

If i can play BF4 on medium i can probably play DAI on medium also?

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

They really need to officially release the System Requirements already, odds are I'm probably getting the PS3 version because I can run BF4, but only at minimum settings.. but still it would be nice to know 100% sure for this game before I make my final decision (I preordered from GameStop, I have until the day before to change my mind about platform)

[Tenshi]

9800 gtx+ Here, can run Bf4 just fine. Hope i can run this game fine with my good old friend. (20-30 fps is just fine for me)

[Revan Reborn]

Just to clarify, for those who have Battlefield 4, DAI will almost certainly have the same system requirements. It's the same engine (Frostbite 3) and if you could already run BF4 on ultra, high, medium, or low, expect the same results with DAI. If you can afford it and your rig can handle it, I'd definitely get Dragon Age Inquisition on PC. It will look best there and mods will always be available later to improve what BioWare fails to provide. If your PC is seriously lacking though, then the consoles would be a decent alternative. I wouldn't get the game on the 360 or PS3 though. The experience would just be watered down too much.

[Aaleel]

Just to clarify, for those who have Battlefield 4, DAI will almost certainly have the same system requirements. It's the same engine (Frostbite 3) and if you could already run BF4 on ultra, high, medium, or low, expect the same results with DAI. If you can afford it and your rig can handle it, I'd definitely get Dragon Age Inquisition on PC. It will look best there and mods will always be available later to improve what BioWare fails to provide. If your PC is seriously lacking though, then the consoles would be a decent alternative. I wouldn't get the game on the 360 or PS3 though. The experience would just be watered down too much.

 

I don't think it's easy to mod the frostbite 3 engine, nigh impossible from what I've read. 

[BloodyTalon]

Just to clarify, for those who have Battlefield 4, DAI will almost certainly have the same system requirements. It's the same engine (Frostbite 3) and if you could already run BF4 on ultra, high, medium, or low, expect the same results with DAI. If you can afford it and your rig can handle it, I'd definitely get Dragon Age Inquisition on PC. It will look best there and mods will always be available later to improve what BioWare fails to provide. If your PC is seriously lacking though, then the consoles would be a decent alternative. I wouldn't get the game on the 360 or PS3 though. The experience would just be watered down too much.

Well we will have to wait for officel moding tools, none at the start sadly I think bioware has said..

But yeah BF 4 is a good benchmark for things, though still would be good to get the officel requirements since bioware did a lot of moding to the engine I think they said to get it to work has they wanted. Just hope it doesn't have over esitmented specs like BF 4 did at release that seemed more like a push to sell things.

[Revan Reborn]

@Aaleel - I can only go based off my experiences with other games but when it comes to modding, whether supported by the developer or not, the community will find a way to do it. Of course it would be easier if developers provide the tools and promote the community to take their own creative liberties. However, it's by no means necessary and I'm certain Frostbite 3 is likely no different. The issue for BioWare is they didn't create Frostbite 3. DICE did. If anyone were to support such a process, it would likely be them.

 

@BloodyTalon - I don't expect BioWare will support the modding community. That being said, they didn't so for DAO or DA2 either as far as I can remember. You can see a rather flourishing modding community for both games regardless of that fact. I think the main hurdle from BioWare was building the necessary tools they needed for storytelling and for performing their cinematic cut-scenes. I don't believe they actually altered or enhanced the engine itself, besides creating tools they needed within its infrastructure.

[wolfhowwl]

Well they did release a toolset for DA:O.

[DisturbedJim83]

@Aaleel - I can only go based off my experiences with other games but when it comes to modding, whether supported by the developer or not, the community will find a way to do it. Of course it would be easier if developers provide the tools and promote the community to take their own creative liberties. However, it's by no means necessary and I'm certain Frostbite 3 is likely no different. The issue for BioWare is they didn't create Frostbite 3. DICE did. If anyone were to support such a process, it would likely be them.

 

@BloodyTalon - I don't expect BioWare will support the modding community. That being said, they didn't so for DAO or DA2 either as far as I can remember. You can see a rather flourishing modding community for both games regardless of that fact. I think the main hurdle from BioWare was building the necessary tools they needed for storytelling and for performing their cinematic cut-scenes. I don't believe they actually altered or enhanced the engine itself, besides creating tools they needed within its infrastructure.

Agreed to examples spring to mind Dragon Age 2 and Freelancer both never had official tools released and yet the community found a way,Freelancer is an epic example launched in 2003 and still has a strong following and MP modded servers running today over 10yrs later 

[Revan Reborn]

@DisturbedJim83 - Exactly. Modding is a beautiful thing and will likely always be exclusive to PC. It would be impractical for consoles due to the amounts of red tape community-made mods would likely have to go through Microsoft and Sony just to be approved and used. Not to mention the de-bugging phases and how virtually any and every mod can break your game if you don't know what you are doing...

 

Back on topic though, BF4 is your most accurate source for a benchmark on system requirements.

[Fredvdp]

If i can play BF4 on medium i can probably play DAI on medium also?

DA:I has more natural environments so I expect a higher poly count. DA:I will probably perform a bit worse than BF4.

[Hibernating]

Hey, I heard that we were  meant to get system requirements in semptember somewhere. Was this a crazy pipedream or true?

[Orthiad]

Hey, I heard that we were  meant to get system requirements in semptember somewhere. Was this a crazy pipedream or true?

True, i think there is a link somewhere in this thread to the confirmed post.