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[Torayuri]

http://www.game-deba... 3: Inquisition Ask here.

 

Thanks, I didn't realise they had a page up for it yet. It's predicted to run fine thankfully. 

[BadgerladDK]

I didn't say it wouldn't run it well. I just said that a 6 core processor would run it better. If you can run it just fine good. I'm happy for you. Have fun and happy gaming.

 

Number of cores above 4 is really an AMD thing. A quad core AMD cpu is a vastly inferior beast compared to a quad core intel one. This isn't a value judgement, they simply have different design criteria where AMD goes for more, less powerful cores and Intel prefers fewer but beefier.

[Warden_of_all]

You did say it's just above minimum. That translates to it won't run well.

 

And by the way, cores matter little when the performance isn't good. Or how would you explain why an FX 8350 with its eight cores is about the same performance level as an i5 3570/4670 even though they have only half as many cores?

It depends on the program. Most games use graphics cores more than cpu cores. Because they focus on high end graphics, smoother visuals. The more the program uses background processes as apposed to visual processes the more evident the difference between the FX8350 and the I5 3570 becomes. An i5 3570 takes 6 hours to render a 1920x1080 static picture with 6,000,000,000 vertices where as a fx8350 takes 3 hours to do the same. I know this as I am a graphic artist. That is  why more cores is always better in the long run. You have more computational power. DA:I has been said to have a lot of AI stuff included compared to other games so the extra cores will probably be a help. 

[Warden_of_all]

It seems we got off on the wrong foot then, because I was talking specifically about Bf4 MP (which is admittedly one of the more CPU heavy things in gaming right now) and my personal experience regarding that and had thought you were talking about Bf4 specifically too.

 

I concur that more cores/simultanously processed threads is better than less. But my point was that whilst a FX 8350 has more physical cores, its IPS are so low that an Intel quadcore CPU like my i5 can perform just as well even on CPU heavy environments as far as the given example (Bf4 MP) was concerned.

 

It also depends on how multithreaded each application that's currently running is and here the sad truth is that even in 2013/14, most programs don't scale well with multithreading or are not properly optimized to use it efficiently (see i7 hyperthreading performance issues that are present in Bf4 MP). And that means that for as long as AMD keeps its current production philosophy, which is more cores rather than more power per core, even their octacore CPUs will underperform due to their low IPS.

 

 

For all it's worth, I'd freaking love to see AMD finally get it straight and improve on their performance and energy efficiency to close the performance abyss I dare say they have on Intel CPUs. Because once applications start to spread with proper multithreaded support, the AMD hexa- and octacores can go a great way to compete with midrange Intel CPUs and even with their high end i7 quadcore models if they can keep their current pricing level.

 

And proper competition is something the CPU market is in sore lack of (thankfully the GPU market is again entering a new competition high between AMD and Nvidia) and ALWAYS in favour for the customer.

I do agree there. AMD does need to update there core mechanics though I still find for truly cpu intensive computation Amd has a slight advantage my second machine only has 9950 black Quad core and it renders stuff in 3d studio faster than my friends I7. So I guess Intel makes better gaming cpus but AMD makes better Render farm cpus.

[Neria Surana]

CPU: AMD Phenon™ II X4 965 Processor 3.41 GHz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650

RAM: 4 GB

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition Service Pack 2 (build 6002), 64-bit

 

 

If I want to play this on ultra setting, or at least high, how much upgrading would I need to do to my computer? I plan on updating my GPU, but I'm not sure which one to get and now I'm kind of nervous that I'll have to get more than a new graphics card if I want to play the best settings for DA: I.

[AlexJK]

Ok, I am kind of an idiot when it comes to computers.

 

I have this laptop http://www.bestbuy.c...9&skuId=5236179

 

Will it be able to work with DAI? Or will I have to upgrade to a better one? 

 

Not well, no. That's a basic laptop; it doesn't have enough power for gaming.

[mrpoultry]

CPU: AMD Phenon™ II X4 965 Processor 3.41 GHz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650

RAM: 4 GB

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition Service Pack 2 (build 6002), 64-bit

 

 

If I want to play this on ultra setting, or at least high, how much upgrading would I need to do to my computer? I plan on updating my GPU, but I'm not sure which one to get and now I'm kind of nervous that I'll have to get more than a new graphics card if I want to play the best settings for DA: I.

I'd advise you to upgrade a few other things because since a new console generation is coming around, specs should be getting a bit more demanding. With your current set up, besides the CPU, you'll be just above minimum.

 

Bag yourself an extra 4 gigs of ram. - 8 Gigs will be reccomended by most developers and you'll be to play any game this gen.

 

Windows 7 or 8 64 bit. Most games will be optimised for these OSs

 

An R9 270x/HD 7850/70 or GTX 660. These cards should be compatible without bottlnecking your CPU and are quite afordable.

 

That way you'll be able to play smoothly on high and you'll problay be able to get ultra settings at 1080p. This set up should be able to handle other upcoming games with little problems too.

[Jasuke34]

I'm pretty clueless when it comes to the more in-depth specifications of running games and such. So would anyone mind letting me know their opinions on my desktop? Also whether it might be able to run DA:I? If not should I upgrade or just save for a new one?

 

HP Pavilion p7-1254

• AMD Quad-Core A6-3620 processor
  2.50GHz, 4MB Cache
   
• 8GB DDR3 SDRAM system memory
  The black HP Pavilion P7-1254 Desktop PC 8GB memory with 1TB hard drive gives you the power to handle most power-hungry applications and tons of multimedia work
   
• 1TB SATA hard drive
  Store 666,000 photos, 285,000 songs or 526 hours of HD video and more with the refurbished black HP AMD Quad-Core A6 Desktop with A6-3620 Processor
• DVD-RAM+/-R/RW drive
  Watch movies, and read and write CDs and DVDs in multiple formats on the black HP Pavilion P7-1254 Desktop PC 8GB memory with 1TB hard drive
   
• 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN
  Connect to a broadband modem with wired Ethernet or wirelessly connect to a WiFi signal or hotspot with the 802.11b/g/n connection built into your refurbished black HP AMD Quad-Core A6 Desktop with A6-3620 Processor
   
• AMD Radeon HD 6530D Graphics Card

 

 

 

Thanks for the help!

[LilyasAvalon]

I have a:

• Intel® Core™ i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
• 16GB RAM
• 64-bit Windows 7 System
• GeForce GTS 450

My graphics card REALLY needs to be upgraded, but I am absolute **** at choosing one out. I'm looking at spending about $200 - $250 AUD. The case is a XG Dragon PC case

[LilyasAvalon]

I'm actually considering switching to next gen console gaming recently.

 

PC gaming is becoming GORGEOUS, don't get me wrong, but it's getting harder for me to keep up with it (I was never that savvy to begin with anyway).

 

It might just be easier to get a PS4 or Xbox one.

[mrpoultry]

I have a:

• Intel® Core™ i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
• 16GB RAM
• 64-bit Windows 7 System
• GeForce GTS 450

My graphics card REALLY needs to be upgraded, but I am absolute **** at choosing one out. I'm looking at spending about $200 - $250 AUD. The case is a XG Dragon PC case

 

 

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I'm actually considering switching to next gen console gaming recently.

 

PC gaming is becoming GORGEOUS, don't get me wrong, but it's getting harder for me to keep up with it (I was never that savvy to begin with anyway).

 

It might just be easier to get a PS4 or Xbox one.

 

http://www.amazon.co...eywords=gtx 760

This card will allow you to play at smootly at ultra settings. With this GFX upgrade, buying a console will just be a downgrade. You have a solid rig and I highly suggest you stick with it.

[mrpoultry]

Sounds about right. Not sure if the RAM is necessary, but that is nowadays so cheap that it doesn't hurt to ... simply have some more of it.

 

CPU is a bit aged by now, but should be more than sufficient for ultra settings in a single player game like DAI. Really the only thing that'd really need an upgrade would be the GPU as the quote says.

Fair enough, 8 gigs seems to be the sweet spot nowadays.

[Aaleel]

Meh, I think my 580 GTX may be getting a little arthritic, but not near time to retire it. I don't think we're at the point where you must have a 2GB memory card to play games on high settings yet.

[Aaleel]

Well ... at least not for 1080p.

Well yeah lol. If I had a 2560x1440 Monitor I would probably build something with SLI and really take it to the next level, but I don't play enough games anymore to justify that cost. One of the reasons why I'm sticking with the 580. I have a I7 2600K so All that would need upgrading in the future if things change would be the card. I'll just over clock for now if need be.

[Ryzaki]

Meh, I think my 580 GTX may be getting a little arthritic, but not near time to retire it. I don't think we're at the point where you must have a 2GB memory card to play games on high settings yet.

 

Yeah I originally was gonna get a 780 but I think I'll wait til the 800s drop so they'll drop in price. ~500 for a card is a bit much =/ especially since most of the games I'm playing are NWN2 and BG enhanced XD

[Deflagratio]

If you do a bit of research, you can actually see where specs trend in terms of what developers are consistently optimizing for both in Minimum and Recommended specs.

 

The recommended trending average sourced off Newegg's tech forums. Games that don't use advanced 3D acceleration (Most Indie games) are excluded when compiling the list for obvious reasons.

 

Processor: Quad Core 3.8GHZ

 

Memory: 6GB DDR3 * 1600

 

GPU: 2GB - 1168MHZ Core Clock, generally around the GeForce 750's or Radeon 7000's. (Not surprising since the new console GPUs are very similar to Radeon 7k's)

 

*If 6GB seems strangely low for recommended, keep in mind that some 50% of Steam users still hold less than 2GB in their systems. Most people outside the gaming enthusiast are quite scared to open their PC and upgrade components, even though memory upgrades aren't much more difficult than inserting an SNES or SEGA cartridge. (If you're old enough to remember)

 

 

 

 

I'm actually considering switching to next gen console gaming recently.

 

PC gaming is becoming GORGEOUS, don't get me wrong, but it's getting harder for me to keep up with it (I was never that savvy to begin with anyway).

 

It might just be easier to get a PS4 or Xbox one.

 

 

 

If you don't feel like going PC, I'll still always be a proponent of the PS4 this generation for dedicated but "Budget" gamers. Xbox 1's ESRAM apparently makes optimizing a ******, especially when compared to how the PS4 uses hUMA to streamline the process of offloading specific tasks to the GPU, something that PC's don't even do, but with vastly superior reserves to work with, they never needed to.

[Sanunes]

If you do a bit of research, you can actually see where specs trend in terms of what developers are consistently optimizing for both in Minimum and Recommended specs.

 

The recommended trending average sourced off Newegg's tech forums. Games that don't use advanced 3D acceleration (Most Indie games) are excluded when compiling the list for obvious reasons.

 

Processor: Quad Core 3.8GHZ

 

Memory: 6GB DDR3 * 1600

 

GPU: 2GB - 1168MHZ Core Clock, generally around the GeForce 750's or Radeon 7000's. (Not surprising since the new console GPUs are very similar to Radeon 7k's)

 

*If 6GB seems strangely low for recommended, keep in mind that some 50% of Steam users still hold less than 2GB in their systems. Most people outside the gaming enthusiast are quite scared to open their PC and upgrade components, even though memory upgrades aren't much more difficult than inserting an SNES or SEGA cartridge. (If you're old enough to remember)

 

If you don't feel like going PC, I'll still always be a proponent of the PS4 this generation for dedicated but "Budget" gamers. Xbox 1's ESRAM apparently makes optimizing a ******, especially when compared to how the PS4 uses hUMA to streamline the process of offloading specific tasks to the GPU, something that PC's don't even do, but with vastly superior reserves to work with, they never needed to.

 

A couple of minor quibbles, the stats you listed for processor are only if you decide to go for an AMD processor.

 

With FrostBite one of the neat things is they have the technology for Mantle and its designed to help under powered processors offload onto the GPU.  They have used it with Battlefield 4 already, but I haven't heard of another game engine that works with it.