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The ageing issue is kinda moot. Clothes I get but everyone ages differently. In my case of being 40, I keep getting mistaken as being 30 or even 28. My dad and mom dont seem 60, they both dont look close to it. I know someone that is 20 but looked 30.

So that 7 years no age appearance affected is lost to me. Its an argument that doesnt make sense less talking under 19, then seven years does make little more sense to show changes.

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Yeah.. it did.  Just to let them know that we.. their customer base, the ones that actually pay the bills, never forget.

 

And.. this is the feedback section.  Just giving feedback.

but could you not post in the other threads that had the same concerns as yours?

I think by now Bioware know what the fans want and what they disliked about the other games and now are working hard to cheer there fan base up



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I pre-ordered and payed for deluxe edition on Origin. I've yet to play a Bioware rpg that I didn't enjoy, and that goes for both DA2 and ME3, despite whatever flaws they had. That said I like what I've seen of DAI so far. It looks promising.



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I dont think it is as bad as ppl make out personally, my worst reaction to it was "is that it? oh well" an then proceeded to play it again :D

Mine was much like others "What the hell did I do wrong?!"

 

It also makes me sad when people are so unreasonably unforgiving, bunch of stubborn....people!  Don't forget Inquisition has been the baby since Origins, this was always the biggie for them afaik, it was conceived long long ago.  I personally am hoping for something quite special.



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Mine was much like others "What the hell did I do wrong?!"
 
It also makes me sad when people are so unreasonably unforgiving, bunch of stubborn....people!  Don't forget Inquisition has been the baby since Origins, this was always the biggie for them afaik, it was conceived long long ago.  I personally am hoping for something quite special.


Is a shame the "Take back ME3" group has already dismissed Inquisition as being awful months before it's release :(
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Is a shame the "Take back ME3" group has already dismissed Inquisition as being awful months before it's release :(

I'm a little bit ashamed to say that I was one of those for a while, until it got out of hand.  I was pretty distraught BUT with the EC and the change to ems I felt much better.  I'm looking forward to the next ME, ME3 has no bearing on my opinion anymore, I still replay it because it is an amazing game.  And when it comes to DA, one disappointment elsewhere does not affect my opinion of a completely different team/game.

 

So I'd say it's only the hardcore that are unreasonable and unforgiving, I think others jumped ship when things got nasty, that was not representative of my feelings in the end.

 

Edit:  When I think back to it it almost felt a bit cult-ish in the end.  That was actually when I walked away from BSN.



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I'm a little bit ashamed to say that I was one of those for a while, until it got out of hand.  I was pretty distraught BUT with the EC and the change to ems I felt much better.  I'm looking forward to the next ME, ME3 has no bearing on my opinion anymore, I still replay it because it is an amazing game.  And when it comes to DA, one disappointment elsewhere does not affect my opinion of a completely different team/game.

 

So I'd say it's only the hardcore that are unreasonable and unforgiving, I think others jumped ship when things got nasty.

 

I think it's perfectly reasonable to jump ship and expect this game to be bad. 

There have been several iffy design choices, most of the team is interns, Gaider being ass on twitter and here, And for three game (DA2, TOR and ME3) Bioware have consistently been mediocre

 

So yeah, so long as peoples excuses are reasonable rather then "One of the characters is a black women! PIRATE! DO NOT SUPPORT CISQUISTION" Then they are perfectly entitled to their views.

 

Personally, I'm waiting for a review I trust (Definately not Kotaku, I wouldn't trust them to review ****. Like da2).

 

We don't have to absolutely preorder the deluxe edition of a game just cause we like Bioware,  



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I think it's perfectly reasonable to jump ship and expect this game to be bad. 

There have been several iffy design choices, most of the team is interns, Gaider being ass on twitter and here, And for three game (DA2, TOR and ME3) Bioware have consistently been mediocre

 

So yeah, so long as peoples excuses are reasonable rather then "One of the characters is a black women! PIRATE! DO NOT SUPPORT CISQUISTION" Then they are perfectly entitled to their views.

 

Personally, I'm waiting for a review I trust (Definately not Kotaku, I wouldn't trust them to review ****. Like da2).

 

We don't have to absolutely preorder the deluxe edition of a game just cause we like Bioware,  

I wasn't talking about jumping ship with regards to this game, I meant jumping ship from the Take back ME3 thing...



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I wasn't talking about jumping ship with regards to this game, I meant jumping ship from the Take back ME3 thing...

Apologies 


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I think it's perfectly reasonable to jump ship and expect this game to be bad. 

There have been several iffy design choices, most of the team is interns, Gaider being ass on twitter and here, And for three game (DA2, TOR and ME3) Bioware have consistently been mediocre

 

So yeah, so long as peoples excuses are reasonable rather then "One of the characters is a black women! PIRATE! DO NOT SUPPORT CISQUISTION" Then they are perfectly entitled to their views.

 

Personally, I'm waiting for a review I trust (Definately not Kotaku, I wouldn't trust them to review ****. Like da2).

 

We don't have to absolutely preorder the deluxe edition of a game just cause we like Bioware,  

I wouldnt trust any review apart from my own tbh, what review will you trust? the one thats says the games crap or the one that says it is good?

 

Trust your own judgement not someone else's


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And for three game (DA2, TOR and ME3) Bioware have consistently been mediocre


You say that like it's a fact when it's not, is your opinion. I enjoyed both DA2 & ME3, i didn't think they were bad games like some people do. I have no opinion on TOR since i never played it.
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tor is like any MMO, it has it good points an its bad, good game though



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You say that like it's a fact when it's not, is your opinion. I enjoyed both DA2 & ME3, i didn't think they were bad games like some people do. I have no opinion on TOR since i never played it.

 

Well not just his/her opnion,it's a very widely held view. But whether you pre-order will depend on if you think they can deliver a good product and that will vary with the individual. 


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Honestly, not pre-ordering a game is perhaps the smartest thing you can do when it comes to purchasing games. It allows you to gauge it's reception once it's out and make an informed decision. When you pre-order, you're far more likely to get burned.

 

I'm talking about games in general, by the way. This is not a situation that's exclusive to this franchise. It's always more sensible to wait.



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You remind me of that guy that always complains about his dial up connection. That is hilarious,seriously.


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I'll see what I think when they get the demo out there (I'm pretty sure they said something about releasing one?).

I liked DA2 not being a story about a hero saving the world, just someone trying to survive things bigger than them and accidentally (or not) making an even bigger mess of it. They just could've done with putting more variables into the environments.

 

But ME3 has made me wary at the very least, though so far things look promising.

 

The fun thing about having your expectation bar bolted to the floor is you don't get that crushing sensation when things implode. Usually.


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I'll see what I think when they get the demo out there (I'm pretty sure they said something about releasing one?).

I liked DA2 not being a story about a hero saving the world, just someone trying to survive things bigger than them and accidentally (or not) making an even bigger mess of it. They just could've done with putting more variables into the environments.

 

But ME3 has made me wary at the very least, though so far things look promising.

 

The fun thing about having your expectation bar bolted to the floor is you don't get that crushing sensation when things implode. Usually.

Quite the opposite. They said they had no plans for a playable demo.



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Is a shame the "Take back ME3" group has already dismissed Inquisition as being awful months before it's release :(

"Once bitten.  Twice shy"

 

It's a very rasonable response.


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There's nothing wrong with not pre-ordering something.  Me?  Despite the flaws in DA2 I very much enjoyed the game, and I love ME3 (besides the ending).  Between having a female protagonist and the character interactions that I've seen in previous games, for me personally it was worth it to pre-order. 



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I want to pre-order, but I am incapable of doing so. I'm not allowed to pre-order digital copies for Xbox One for some stupid reason.



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I can't pre-order until they confirm whether or not there's console commands on the PC version.  If there aren't, I'll just pre-order for Xbox One.  If they don't confirm it, I have to wait till some time post release to see if it has it or not, so I know which version to get.  It's nothing out of spite, in my case.  Game looks good enough I know it will better than DAII.  That being said, I'm not about to get the PC version to realize it would run and look better on my Xbox One and not even console commands to ease the pain.  I'm not about to get it for Xbox One then realize the PC version has console commands so I am missing out.



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Quite the opposite. They said they had no plans for a playable demo.

 

Well that isn't reassuring...

 

Maybe I'm confusing it with the Keep.



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This is the reason why a Playable demo for DA:I is needed and the point I've been trying to make. The core faithful around here is a massive MINORITY. The World at large thinks Bioware is dead already and arent willing to take a gamble at just buying the game on release.  To these people it really looks like a confirmation of their belief that EA is 'afraid' to let people see a demo before release. Really poor move on EA's part and it will cost them sales. They need to rebuilt trust with the community.

 

Some zealots might be quick to dismiss this and say "Who cares" about the haters, Let them sod off and leave the game for us, the problem is we are dealing with EA.  If DAI doesnt pull a profit at release thats enough for a knee jerk reaction by the board to affect us by them canceling DLCs or worse thinking Dragon Age is not profitable and putting it on the back burning. This HAS happened before, and it will happen again in the game industry, with EA and other companies. Mirror's Edge is a good example, its a great game and EA was quick the pull the plug on it because of the early reception, it took years for them to 'get' the audience is there and only now do we have Mirror's Edge 2 coming. Do people really want that to happen with Dragon Age?

 

The hardcore faithful are so quick to cut their nose to spite their face by dismissing all the people who thinks bioware is dead, its important to win people back to keep the series going.


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This is the reason why a Playable demo for DA:I is needed and the point I've been trying to make. The core faithful around here is a massive MINORITY. The World at large thinks Bioware is dead already and arent willing to take a gamble at just buying the game on release.  To these people it really looks like a confirmation of their belief that EA is 'afraid' to let people see a demo before release. Really poor move on EA's part and it will cost them sales. They need to rebuilt trust with the community.

 

Some zealots might be quick to dismiss this and say "Who cares" about the haters, Let them sod off and leave the game for us, the problem is we are dealing with EA.  If DAI doesnt pull a profit at release thats enough for a knee jerk reaction by the board to affect us by them canceling DLCs or worse thinking Dragon Age is not profitable and putting it on the back burning. This HAS happened before, and it will happen again in the game industry, with EA and other companies. Mirror's Edge is a good example, its a great game and EA was quick the pull the plug on it because of the early reception, it took years for them to 'get' the audience is there and only now do we have Mirror's Edge 2 coming. Do people really want that to happen with Dragon Age?

 

The hardcore faithful are so quick to cut their nose to spite their face by dismissing all the people who thinks bioware is dead, its important to win people back to keep the series going.


Or not.



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A demo for a BAD game hurts sales. A Demo for a GOOD game helps sales. Isnt this common knowledge?  They are talking about "average Xbox 360 game",  I wouldnt consider Halo, or Mass Effect or Dragon age etc to be a average game.

 

They never say what games they used in their research, and considering most games these days are crap, that research sounds highly suspect.




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