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Did it have selectable characters? I know it had a female character but not multiple?
In multiplayer ? Yes a lot of them have selectable characters. Unity is the first game to do MP this way and they made a HUGE adjustment to how the game functions as well.
In multiplayer ? Yes a lot of them have selectable characters. Unity is the first game to do MP this way and they made a HUGE adjustment to how the game functions as well.
What I meant was does the single player have more then one main character to play as?
True, true. Much easier to reuse the same old rugged white dude design for everything.
What I meant was does the single player have more then one main character to play as?
Yes, but it's not quite that straightforward. If you mean selecting a character at the start of the game, then no.
What I meant was does the single player have more then one main character to play as?
You cannot select your main character in any AC game so far, though some of them switch main characters temporarily or completely as dictated by the storyline.
You cannot select your main character in any AC game so far, though some of them switch main characters temporarily or completely as dictated by the storyline.
So why is it surprising that AC:unity ain't got female Assassin's? I thought they were all playing as the same guy in different colours in co op?
So why is it surprising that AC:unity ain't got female Assassin's? I thought they were all playing as the same guy in different colours in co op?
Previous AC games used a fairly standard MP model. Unity borrows from what they did in Watch Dogs and what Souls has been doing for a long time, where you "guest" in another players game directly to help them out or get in their way and whatever other MP modes are in there.
It's not suprising but that won't stop people trying to make a point.
Have you even read these forums in regard to female protagonist animations? Because I have, and frankly, I don't blame game developers if they choose to stay away from it. Here's the logic so far:
Not including them is discrimination(sexist) because "we've been excluded since the invention of the video game"
Including them can be discrimination if some feel like she was "overly sexualized", and here's the kicker "if she isn't feminine enough". Where's the win for a dev? Most just choose to not spend the money to put themselves under fire.
People only complain about sexualization if the character is sexualized. Just because you don't see the logic in people's complaints doesn't mean it's not there.
People only complain about sexualization if the character is sexualized. Just because you don't see the logic in people's complaints doesn't mean it's not there.
"spend a lot of money developing a female protagonist, only to give both the male and female a more gender 'neutral' walk to avoid offending anyone, why spend the extra money"?
How would replicating a male Inquisitor's walk for a female Inquisitor cost more money than coming up with a completely new animation for her?
And either way, I haven't encountered a single person who had a problem with Aveline de Grandpré. There's a precedent for well-designed female characters here.
...and there's the rub. What's considered over sexualized changes from poster to poster, with some overlap. But by and large, most developers feel it's safer to just leave it alone, and really, for them, it is. There isn't even consensus here on whether or not the female protagonists are truly representative, even the Fem Inquisitor has gotten flak for her walk. So if the options are "spend a lot of money developing a female protagonist, only to give both the male and female a more gender 'neutral' walk to avoid offending anyone, why spend the extra money"? I mean, some people felt that Fem Shep's head following James during his pull ups was over sexualizing her, despite the fact that MShep did the same thing.
Some people have legitimate complaints, and some people just love complaining.
Sexism and racism can overlap, they can both be experienced by the same person but they are not the same thing.
And you want proof of sexism in gaming?
Do I really need to say her name and the reaction she got for having an opinion?
Or how about the fact that developers are told flat out that they can't have a female protagonist and it has to be a dude? That the devs of the Last of Us had to actually argue to have Ellie on the cover of the game.
Why do you think the #womenaretoohardtoanimate tag has cropped up on twitter? Out of nothing? No, because some backwards cretin decided women are too much effort to put into leading roles, despite the fact that the devs behind Blacklight Retribution have female models in their game and have said it's not that hard and relatively cheap to do. The team behind Unity actually expected to get away with that. An excuse that plenty of people have ripped apart already.
Another tag is #1reasonwhy, which is a collective of experiences women have had in the gaming industry.
But I suppose every single one of them is just blowing things out of proportion, right?
Keep in mind that constant little aggressions eventually pile up into big ones. It is a problem and dudes trying to bluster and wave it away aren't helping. They're part of the problem and they are part of why it's staying a problem.
Someone said that the only reason that most game developers are male is because of sexism. My reaction to that remark was to say that saying something like that is as repulsive and unacceptable as saying that black sprinters are in the majority only because of racism. I have the impression you didn't interpreted my comment that way.
I can't say that I have been following this whole sexism-in-games discussion so it would be helpful if you would provide the name of that woman. To my own credit I looked up this #1reasonwhy (first twitter experience) and I can understand why you perceive the gaming industry the way you perceive it and you have every reason to be unhappy about it. I don't have the time to invest too much in this subject but I guess my perspective is along the lines of :
I suspect that game developers make the sort of games that they would like to play. As such certain aspects in the game are projections of what the makers would like to see in a game they would play. Most (fe)males like to play a (fe)male character and because most game developers are male ->... . The same goes with the appearance of women in games. I don't think game developers are sexist but I can see why it would look that way. An analogy; My wife's family is a "let's give gifts at every possible occasion" kind of family. But I almost never need anything so most of the time they buy fancy smelling shampoo or perfume. It doesn't bother me but I can understand that there are people who would feel like their parents-in-law are trying to say something by giving soap at every possible occasion.
On topic: I'll pre-order the moment I unfreeze my wife's clothing budget
Someone said that the only reason that most game developers are male is because of sexism.
Why else would that be?
Why else would that be?
Humans are a sexual dimorphic species. Male and female brains process the same information in a different way, resulting in certain sex-specific virtues, attributes and flaws.
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If i could make a game, i sure as hell aint going to make one with the pc as a woman, why?, well i aint a woman an i prob do them to much dis service even trying.
If there is tons of woman lining up for a job as a games dev and there better at it than there counterparts (male or female) an not getting the job cause of there gender, thats a huge problem, but who is to say there is plenty of woman game devs lining up for jobs? who is to say "lesser" males are being giving a chance before them?
the thing i read an hear the most is there is thousands of game devs an hardly any jobs, it be a bitter market so to speak an game companies will want the best of the best, they take enough risks making a game to begin with, maybe if all these so called companies that are expressing concern for it actually opened there doors, trained some, did apprentices ertc etc, i dont know u get the drift
EA/MicrosoftActivision/Ubisoft, look size of these companies, if it concerned them so and if they wanted to make a difference it is easy for them to do so, even Bioware, if they was so concerned they could make a difference, no idea if they do but well
Why else would that be?
Because people who grew up playing video games as a kid are now old enough to code.
These people were predominately male.
That's still sort of true today if you remove mobile & facebook games from any poll.
So it's not so much sexism as, in the eighties, females that played games were in a extreme minority, and therefore they are less likely to become developers.
Humans are a sexual dimorphic species. Male and female brains process the same information in a different way, resulting in certain sex-specific virtues, attributes and flaws.
Ah, good to know that you really do think women are less competent at developing games than men. That's all I needed from you.
Wow....how did this go from "I'm not pre-ordering" to "YOU'RE SEXIST"? The powers of BSN is truly magical.
Anyway, yeah I'm not pre-ordering either, infact the only pre-order I've ever placed is for the Mass Effect Trilogy. I think the latest I can play DAI is February 2015..
Wow....how did this go from "I'm not pre-ordering" to "YOU'RE SEXIST"? The powers of BSN is truly magical.
Anyway, yeah I'm not pre-ordering either, infact the only pre-order I've ever placed is for the Mass Effect Trilogy. I think the latest I can play DAI is February 2015..
I think I posted something about not preordering, I explained why, that explanation was seen as homophobic, I explained the reason behind that, A bioware guy said who from old games developed, someone made the inevitable comment that "So few women", and it all spiralled out of control.
It's f**cking magical.
Because people who grew up playing video games as a kid are now old enough to code.
These people were predominately male.
That's still sort of true today if you remove mobile & facebook games from any poll.
Citations?
Wow....how did this go from "I'm not pre-ordering" to "YOU'RE SEXIST"? The powers of BSN is truly magical.
Because someone blew my relatively unobtrustive comment out of proportion.
Because someone blew my relatively unobtrustive comment out of proportion.
Delicious Irony is delicious.
Ah, good to know that you really do think women are less competent at developing games than men. That's all I needed from you.
In general men take more risks than women do. This contributes to the fact that of all people that die at their work about 90% are males (Those who think that we should force woman to do dangerous work so they can die at the same rate as men, raise your hand!!). This also includes taking financial risks like starting a business ...
Citations?
Right:
http://www.fastcompa...ll-soon-pwn-you
And I'm sorry, my computer doesn't have word, what was in the document?
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another question, is there any reason all these "woman" developers who are getting it soo tough, dont use Kickstarter? you know get ppl to back them an show there talents off, sure there is plenty of ppl willing to back them tbh
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