Mass Effect bordered more on Science Fantasy than Science Fiction towards the end of the trilogy ...
The Prothean cipher, the telepathic plant that cloned asari, Benezia's resistance to indoctrination by walling off a part of her mind, and the link between hopper Saren and Sovereign all show that it was heavily leaning towards space opera/fantasy from the start.
The Prothean cipher, the telepathic plant that cloned asari, Benezia's resistance to indoctrination by walling off a part of her mind, and the link between hopper Saren and Sovereign all show that it was heavily leaning towards space opera/fantasy from the start.
Yeah, I remembered all that after I wrote my post but I forgot to come back and edit it lol
Oh, I don't really mind a lot of it either. As much as I give the Thorian and the cipher a hard time, I actually dig 'em.
Doesn't stop it from being utter space magic, though.
Oh, I don't really mind a lot of it either. As much as I give the Thorian and the cipher a hard time, I actually dig 'em.
Doesn't stop it from being utter space magic, though.
Nothing is space magic. Except for space magic.
Nothing is space magic. Except for space magic.
And there's plenty of it in ME1. Point being ...?
Nothing is space magic. Except for space magic.
And there's plenty of it in ME1. Point being ...?
Point being, there is no space magic in ME1. Or ME2 for that matter.
Point being, there is no space magic in ME1. Or ME2 for that matter.
Point being, there is no space magic in ME1. Or ME2 for that matter.
Point being, there is no space magic in ME1. Or ME2 for that matter.
The Prothean cipher, the telepathic plant that cloned asari, Benezia's resistance to indoctrination by walling off a part of her mind, and the link between hopper Saren and Sovereign all show that it was heavily leaning towards space opera/fantasy from the start.
Elkoss Combine would sh*t their pressure suits if they could harness the thorian's ability to manufacture weapons and armor.
*grabs popcorn*
I can pretty much hear dreamgazer's keyboard rattle over here. In the Netherlands.
Then please, explain away.
Nah, it's easier to just watch folks try and dance around "space magic" in their explanations of things only explainable with "space magic".
None of these things are space magic. Space magic is the term reserved for the endings of that thing with the... thing. Seriously, it's the law.
Techno/space magic in and of itself is not a bad thing, so long as it's consistent and there's no lore breaking events.
I don't have a problem with the space magic in Mass Effect, just like I don't have a problem with it in Star Wars. What I DO have a problem with, is people acting as if the series didn't have space magic until the ending of Mass Effect 3.
I'm not talking about anyone in here, just people in general.
None of these things are space magic. Space magic is the term reserved for the endings of that thing with the... thing. Seriously, it's the law.
The term "space magic" has been tossed around since at least the time of Farscape's popularity.
And yes, there's plenty of space magic to go around in ME1. Can you elaborate otherwise?
I have no idea what you're talking about. I also do not associate things you nitpick in ME1 with the term "space magic".
Couldn't "science fiction" in and on itself be labelled as "space magic"? Or if it is all hard science, then what is the fiction part?
First definition from google:
"fiction based on imagined future scientific or technological advances and major social or environmental changes, frequently portraying space or time travel and life on other planets."
If time travel is part of the definition of term, then everything in Mass Effect is science fiction. It can't really get much more implausible than time travel or alternate realities after all.
Couldn't "science fiction" in and on itself be labelled as "space magic"? Or if it is all hard science, then what is the fiction part?
Are there less-or-other-than-hard-sci-fi elements in ME1 or ME2? Never really thought about it while playing the games, but hell, there probably are. That doesn't make them "space magic". That term is mixed up with other terms. Ones like "space Casper", "starbrat", "artistic integrity", "RGB", "yo dawg synthetics", "lots of speculations for everyone" etc. And that's where it belongs in this context.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I also do not associate things you nitpick in ME1 with the term "space magic".
Hint: Space Magic isn't a new concept, and Mass Effect's science-fiction has always been pretty damn squishy.
Whether you choose to associate those things in ME1 with space magic or not really doesn't matter if you can't explain otherwise. Until then? The mental cipher, the cloning telepathic plant, Benezia's special indoctrination protection, and the unexplained link between hopper Saren and Sovereign are all pure magic which occurs in the expanses of space and are absolutely detrimental to the plot. Claiming that I'm nitpicking doesn't change the argument at-hand, sir.
Are there less-or-other-than-hard-sci-fi elements in ME1 or ME2? Never really thought about it while playing the games, but hell, there probably are. That doesn't make them "space magic". That term is mixed up with other terms. Ones like "space Casper", "starbrat", "artistic integrity", "RGB", "yo dawg synthetics", "lots of speculations for everyone" etc. And that's where it belongs in this context.
Hint: Space Magic isn't a new concept, and Mass Effect's science-fiction has always been pretty damn squishy.
Whether you choose to associate those things in ME1 with space magic or not really doesn't matter if you can't explain otherwise. Until then? The mental cipher, the cloning telepathic plant, Benezia's special indoctrination protection, and the unexplained link between hopper Saren and Sovereign are all pure magic which occurs in the expanses of space and are absolutely detrimental to the plot. Claiming that I'm nitpicking doesn't change the argument at-hand, sir.
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I just explained above what do I mean by the term "space magic", so you either missed that or just wanted to miss that.
The first time I came across it was on old BSN, in corelation with the ending sh1tstorm, so I'm sticking to that meaning. Clue: I'm using it as a very, very derisive term, connotated with what was possibly the biggest FUBAR in the history of video games. I don't care if it's an old concept, or that it came up with Farscape, whatever Farscape is. So I don't like it when someone tries to use it to name whatever part of ME1 or ME2 stands out to him or her for any reason.
Also, none of these things you mentioned were detrimental to the plot in any way. Is ME1 perfect or inconsistency-free? No. So bloody what? It's still brilliant.
And that's a nice picture. I've seen it before, though. Try coming up with something new next time. Here, like this - I don't think I've used this one yet:
I just explained above what do I mean by the term "space magic", so you either missed that or just wanted to miss that.
The first time I came across it was on old BSN, in corelation with the ending sh1tstorm, so I'm sticking to that meaning. Clue: I'm using it as a very, very derisive term, connotated with what was possibly the biggest FUBAR in the history of video games. I don't care if it's an old concept, or that it came up with Farscape, whatever Farscape is. So I don't like it when someone tries to use it to name whatever part of ME1 or ME2 stands out to him or her for any reason.
Also, none of these things you mentioned were detrimental to the plot in any way. Is ME1 perfect or inconsistency-free? No. So bloody what? It's still brilliant.
And that's a nice picture. I've seen it before. Try coming up with something new next time. Here, like this - I don't think I've used this one before:
I just explained above what do I mean by the term "space magic", so you either missed that or just wanted to miss that.
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!' "
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
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