The friction might have been interesting, but she'd be a prime candidate for suspicions of being a spy. It breaks plausibility.
Cronos would work, though, since it's after she's proven herself a bit on Horizon.
Not really. I don't see how it would break plausibility. It's Shepard's ship. He can bring who he wants.
Granted, by no means do I want everyone to be cool with it. I'd rather see the friction coming from the crew from having her aboard.
Not really. I don't see how it would break plausibility. It's Shepard's ship. He can bring who he wants.
Granted, by no means do I want everyone to be cool with it. I'd rather see the friction coming from the crew from having her aboard.
It's also an Alliance operation with oversight from their upper brass, and she's one of the prominent (former) employees of the indoctrinated force working against their objectives every step of the way. It wouldn't be a simple as Shepard signing a slip of approval that she's not a Cerberus spy, since Miranda is also a special case.
As I said, I think opinions could be swayed after Horizon (or a similar event included earlier in the narrative), but not before.
That's when the Spectre card can be pulled, and Hackett would be willing enough to let Shepard run his own show that he'd approve of anything if Shepard thinks it's worth it. He already demonstrated repeatedly that he was more than willing to accept help from other Cerberus operatives (who were very high level) and allow them to function without real problems. Look at Jacob; the guy has free reign on the Citadel. Nobody is trying to stop him or restrain him.
If Shepard vouches for Miranda, that would be more than enough for Hackett. Plus, as the Commanding Officer of the Normandy (a warship), he has final say over who is allowed aboard his vessel and who is not. That comes down to military procedure. And it's doubtful that Shepard would let any other alliance officer other than Hackett or Anderson tell him anything.
It's also an Alliance operation with oversight from their upper brass, and she's one of the prominent (former) employees of the indoctrinated force working against their objectives every step of the way. It wouldn't be a simple as Shepard signing a slip of approval that she's not a Cerberus spy, since Miranda is also a special case.
As I said, I think opinions could be swayed after Horizon (or a similar event included earlier in the narrative), but not before.
I still think Shepard is as suspicious as Miranda, if not more so. The events of ME2 have to be the most suspicious thing ever viewed from the outside. Especially considering there's such a thing as a control chip.
That's when the Spectre card can be pulled, and Hackett would be willing enough to let Shepard run his own show that he'd approve of anything if Shepard thinks it's worth it. He already demonstrated repeatedly that he was more than willing to accept help from other Cerberus operatives (who were very high level) and allow them to function without real problems. Look at Jacob; the guy has free reign on the Citadel. Nobody is trying to stop him or restrain him.
If Shepard vouches for Miranda, that would be more than enough for Hackett. Plus, as the Commanding Officer of the Normandy (a warship), he has final say over who is allowed aboard his vessel and who is not. That comes down to military procedure. And it's doubtful that Shepard would let any other alliance officer other than Hackett or Anderson tell him anything.
I've moved on. I finished my fic a few months back, got out what I wanted to say and it felt good. Truth be told, I'd kinda been ready to let go way before, but I needed to get the damn thing written.
I won't say I'm happy, and nor am I eagerly anticipating future BioWare releases anymore, but there's no use in staying sad/bitter/angry. We had a good run...
If the Council demanded that Miranda be brought in for questioning about Cerberus activities, Shepard would have to comply.
Or be hunted down, and killed.
Yes, I am at peace with ME3, I just think it's not as good as ME2.
My biggest problem is that none of the ME2 squad mates return as squad mates - the Armax arena fixed that... a little, but still.
Second problem is the Illusive Man. Whereas in ME2 mister Man was an interesting character that was hard to classify as either good or bad - ruthless, but also pragmatic, in ME3 he was just an ******* villain. Even being an ass just for the sake of it, like insisting on calling EDI an 'it' whereas he did call her a 'her' in ME2. I know he's indoctrinated in ME3 so I can't call it a plothole... but I don't have to like it...
Third problem is that the ending mission is not as good as the suicide mission of ME2: it's still good, but it could have been better if we had to assign the war assets to specific tasks like we did with the squad mates in 2: like asigning the Krogan to a specific task that they are good at, like close combat. Or assigning the Salarians or Quarians to something tech related.
The ending? Believe it or not, I am fine with the red one. Reapers fall dead; Asari and Krogan cheer at it: Shepard lives: that's all the satisfaction I need. Damn shame about EDI I guess, but... oh come on: she can be rebuild: if a living creature like Shepard can be brought back from the dead certainly a damn robot can...
If the Council demanded that Miranda be brought in for questioning about Cerberus activities, Shepard would have to comply.
Or be hunted down, and killed.
He wouldn't have to comply. They'd just lose their only chance at winning the war. Shepard, especially at this point, can very easily tell them to screw off and get away with it. The Council would have far more pressing considerations to worry about anyway.
If they wanted to hunt down and kill the only chance they have, they can try.
He would have to comply, legally speaking. Shepard is replaceable, ultimately. An extremely talented soldier, but not the only one and only as important as he is because the plot decrees such. Now whether he would or should follow that order is another story. My primary male Shepard would choose to be hunted, after leaving the Normandy behind. My primary female Shepard would pretend to hunt very hard until the whole thing blew over/she was reassigned.
I disagree. As far as the universe is concerned, Shepard is possibly even more irreplaceable than the Crucible.
If he's gone, there's absolutely zero chance of ever defeating the Reapers for this current civilization.
Only chance they have?
That's the sort of nonesense you''ll only find in fiction.
Yep. The power of the power fantasy. I know fully what it is, and I ride it into the ground like a flaming chicken.
Shepard is even more irreplaceable than the Crucible.
I'm going to use that power to be a bit corrupt.
It might be fun to play another round of "The Council are Idiots." Let them go ahead and question Miranda. She's got nothing to hide.
He would have to comply, legally speaking. Shepard is replaceable, ultimately. An extremely talented soldier, but not the only one and only as important as he is because the plot decrees such. Now whether he would or should follow that order is another story. My primary male Shepard would choose to be hunted, after leaving the Normandy behind. My primary female Shepard would pretend to hunt very hard until the whole thing blew over/she was reassigned.
While I wouldn't put it past the Council to waste everyone's valuable time flexing their jurisdictional muscles, why would they order that anyone be brought in for questioning in the first place? Who would they send and hunt down and kill the Spectre that may very well have saved their scaly hides and the entire galaxy multiple times by now? If they can't trust Shepard's judgment in the matter, why uphold his/her Spectre status in the first place? Are they really that stupid? I guess if the Council is that stupid, they could try, but it would be a shame to send their enforcers to their deaths trying to kill Shepard.If the Council demanded that Miranda be brought in for questioning about Cerberus activities, Shepard would have to comply.
Or be hunted down, and killed.
At peace?! I have never been more at war with ME3 than I am right now.
At peace?! I have never been more at war with ME3 than I am right now.
Yep. The power of the power fantasy. I know fully what it is, and I ride it into the ground like flaming chicken.
Shepard is even more irreplaceable than the Crucible.
I'm going to use that power to be a bit corrupt.
While I wouldn't put it past the Council to waste everyone's valuable time flexing their jurisdictional muscles, why would they order that anyone be brought in for questioning in the first place? Who would they send and hunt down and kill the Spectre that may very well have saved their scaly hides and the entire galaxy multiple times by now? If they can't trust Shepard's judgment in the matter, why uphold his/her Spectre status in the first place? Are they really that stupid? I guess if the Council is that stupid, they could try, but it would be a shame to send their enforcers to their deaths trying to kill Shepard.
It bears reminding though that Shepard may be a Spectre, he/she is also an alliance operative sent on a mission to gather allies against the reapers. The Council can't just go around killing Alliance marines for not getting everything they want.
The point being, disobeying a direct order is grounds for "gross misconduct," and while the whole stealing the Normandy to go after Saren thing worked and was the right decision, not getting the intel on Cerberus, that Miranda has, as evidenced by her war asset description, would not be the right decision. (Speaking of that, how in holy hell is Miranda worth 1/2 of an Alliance fleet?)
The Council can go and kill a rogue Spectre for disobeying a direct order. Is there one thing Shepard did that a multiplayer N7 squad coupled with some diplomats couldn't do? This is the guy who thought Asari needed other species to mate.
It might be fun to play another round of "The Council are Idiots." Let them go ahead and question Miranda. She's got nothing to hide.
She did work for a terrorist organization for most of her adult life. Which some may consider a crime. Miranda should have gotten the Petrovsky treatment by the allied forces.
The point being, disobeying a direct order is grounds for "gross misconduct," and while the whole stealing the Normandy to go after Saren thing worked and was the right decision, not getting the intel on Cerberus, that Miranda has, as evidenced by her war asset description, would not be the right decision. (Speaking of that, how in holy hell is Miranda worth 1/2 of an Alliance fleet?)
The Council can go and kill a rogue Spectre for disobeying a direct order. Is there one thing Shepard did that a multiplayer N7 squad coupled with some diplomats couldn't do? This is the guy who thought Asari needed other species to mate.
She did work for a terrorist organization for most of her adult life. Which some may consider a crime. Miranda should have gotten the Petrovsky treatment by the allied forces.
It would be the right decision by Shepard. Instead of stewing in a Council Prison, being interrogated and treated like crap, all for the hope of getting a plea bargain that won't have her facing capital punishment for being associated with Cerberus, she'd be a lot more useful somewhere like the Normandy where she can actually put her abilities to use. And you didn't address his statement. The Council isn't going to send some of their best agents to get mowed down by Shepard in this time of war. They're needed elsewhere, and Shepard doesn't have time to worry about the Council's demands over a trustworthy squadmate who may or may not be his significant other. If the Council is that stupid to waste resources on a hunting and confronting and getting killed by a Spectre who's always shown a disposition for going rogue in the past (and it always paying off), then somebody up in the chain is going to notice this and bring it to others attention, and the Council would be replaced. As for how she's worth so much, I'm not surprised.
Honestly, yes. Everything. I'm willing to say that Shepard is more valuable than all of them combined. I look at it without sensibility or rationality. And it's good, because the game supports my position completely: Shepard is the greatest soldier/dude/champion-mcawesome who ever lived. I understand fully how it is, and as I said, I'm riding that bomb into the abyss. Take Shepard out of the war, and it's immediately completely hopeless. Such is the way of the power fantasy.
She's proven her value and worth to Shepard in the past, who has more than shown his value and worth. If he vouches for her, which he likely would, she'd be fine. Nobody is going to turn down help at this point in the war, especially when it's voluntary. Miranda being with Cerberus isn't going to stop that. She had useful information, and she voluntarily contributed. That's all the alliance needs to worry about. Plus, I will say that you have come off in the past as being rather resentful and disliking of Miranda.
If NPCs are going to constantly tell me that I'm awesome at the very least I'd like it to be because I've somehow managed to do something awesome, not just slavishly followed Plot Point 1 to Plot Point 2 etc. With most games you always know that you're not really that special no matter what the game says, that you've not achieved exactly the same thing that millions of other gamers have.Honestly, I hope Bioware realise that their entire fan base is not built up of lonely nerds who need a video game to tell them how awesome they are in order to feel good about themselves, they should take a far more mature route with their future Mass Effect games.
as long as we have Javik to activate the beacon
Shepard was also needed to get Javik out of his refridgerator alive.
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