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Are you at peace with ME3?


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#976
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I'm at peace with the endings, hell, they weren't even as bad as I'd been expecting, considering all the backlash. But I do dislike them, simply for the reason that they make a game set after the Reaper invasion impossible, unless BioWare decides to canonize one of the endings or Indoctrination Theory turns out to be correct in some degree. And I doubt that either of those will happen.



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That's why I prefer synthesis. It's final, puts everything to rest and you can move on from it having no major issues left over and shep is definitely dead.

 

And yes that Ashley scene should've been in (if its legit) I can only think they were trying to avoid expanding on the religious elements of the game which are fairly tame when you think about it. Maybe worried about offending people or just avoiding the philosophical debate over life after death. I personally wouldn't mind and I'm religious.

 

The scene is legit. There is a youtube video of it. They totally gutted Ashley's personality in ME3. She is religious in ME1, and what happened to her in ME3?

 

I'm not religious. I'm agnostic. I'm defending the character. I write religious characters in stories, too. I RP religious characters sometimes. I don't think it would have been over the top. You don't gut a character. Thane was religious, and they didn't gut that part of his character, and there was an option Shepard to participate in the prayer. Why did they gut Ashley and not Thane?

 

Well, Synthesis is the only ending where Shepard won't ever again have to hear anyone crack jokes about "I heard that Shepard once thought Asari needed other species to reproduce."


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Thanes scene had a lot less 'is there life after death?' involved in it though. It's a touchy subject for some people just saying that its the only reason I can think of for why they'd ditch a powerful scene like that.



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It is very hard to write a good ending to a series of multiple installments. Look at **** like Lost, Seinfeld, etc. Writing a good ending is hard and it almost always ends in disaster. 

 

That being said, the writers weren't doing themselves any favors with the god child ****. 



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Thanes scene had a lot less 'is there life after death?' involved in it though. It's a touchy subject for some people just saying that its the only reason I can think of for why they'd ditch a powerful scene like that.

 

They ditched the scene because it might have p1ssed people off? The f*cking irony........


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They ditched the scene because it might have p1ssed people off? The f*cking irony........

OMG, there's my laugh for the day!

 

The week even

 

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


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The scene is legit. There is a youtube video of it. They totally gutted Ashley's personality in ME3. She is religious in ME1, and what happened to her in ME3?

 

I'm not religious. I'm agnostic. I'm defending the character. I write religious characters in stories, too. I RP religious characters sometimes. I don't think it would have been over the top. You don't gut a character. Thane was religious, and they didn't gut that part of his character, and there was an option Shepard to participate in the prayer. Why did they gut Ashley and not Thane?

 

Well, Synthesis is the only ending where Shepard won't ever again have to hear anyone crack jokes about "I heard that Shepard once thought Asari needed other species to reproduce."

 

I assume that Thane's religiousness got to stay mainly because it was a weird alien polytheistic brand of faith that even his own people on Kahje are abandoning, whereas real life religion may get the short end of the stick because of the general hostility toward religions in general. It'd be like a character praying to one of the Greek gods. It's already universally considered hokey myth, so why the frak not? Mind you, this isn't a reason I consider to be particularly good, but I feel that it's probably the main one.


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I assume that Thane's religiousness got to stay mainly because it was a weird alien polytheistic brand of faith that even his own people on Kahje are abandoning, whereas real life religion may get the short end of the stick because of the general hostility toward religions in general. It'd be like a character praying to one of the Greek gods. It's already universally considered hokey myth, so why the frak not? Mind you, this isn't a reason I consider to be particularly good, but I feel that it's probably the main one.

Of course, we never hear what Ash's religion is. Only that she believes in "God"  That "God" could be Apollo, god of the sun and of poetry for all we know.

 

In two hundred years, new religions may even have formed.  Take a look at Firefly and the Order of Shepherds.

 

Yeah, stifling Ash's religion in the name of "avoiding controversy" yet playing up Shepard as some sort of Christlike messianic character who has to die for the galaxy's sins is an extremely WTF-inducing dissonance.


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In two hundred years, new religions may even have formed.  Take a look at Firefly and the Order of Shepherds.

 

Yeah, stifling Ash's religion in the name of "avoiding controversy" yet playing up Shepard as some sort of Christlike messianic character who has to die for the galaxy's sins is an extremely WTF-inducing dissonance.

Some Christlike meassianic figure, getting called "The Shepard" and you've mentioned an Order of Shepherds? :P


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Tell me another story about The Shepard.

 

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Jack aimed her pistol at Aresh's head, squeezed the trigger and fired, then looked up at The Shepard.

 

"A bullet in the head solves everything," The Shepard said.

 

Jack took a breath. "I know that now."


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Tell me another story about The Shepard.

 

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Jack aimed her pistol at Aresh's head, squeezed the trigger and fired, then looked up at The Shepard.

 

"A bullet in the head solves everything," The Shepard said.

 

Jack took a breath. "I know that now."

All the crap Jack has done in her life, how did she not know that before? Maybe she always suspected it to be true, but needed The Shepard to confirm. 


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Unless Jack never did it up close and personal like that. That's what I think. It was always at a distance, and always when enraged or on drugs.


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Some Christlike meassianic figure, getting called "The Shepard" and you've mentioned an Order of Shepherds? :P

"Shepard" as in Alan Shepard.  Not "Shepherd"

 

Really wish they had remembered that.


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Of course, we never hear what Ash's religion is. Only that she believes in "God"  That "God" could be Apollo, god of the sun and of poetry for all we know.

Of course it is the glorious Ra. Why would anyone worship any lesser god. That Apollo guy is just a dirty imposter. Praise the almighty Ra.



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*points to sig* 

:whistle:



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*points to sig* 

:whistle:

 

Noodles? I would think Grunt eats by the bale. Looking at krogan teeth they're herbivores. So about four flakes of alfalfa per day plus a bucket of COB should do the trick.



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Noodles? I would think Grunt eats by the bale. Looking at krogan teeth they're herbivores. So about four flakes of alfalfa per day plus a bucket of COB should do the trick.

It's in reference to his citadel DLC content ;)



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*points to sig* 

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Grunt wasn't even alive back when Ashley said that she believed in god. So she obviously meant the almighty Ra.

 

Also humans converting back to old egyptian Polytheism in the ME4 semi-confirmed.



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It's in reference to his citadel DLC content ;)

Probably anything drawn with Grunt eating something is always noodles besides ME2 where he hated noodles. :'( And you thought krogans feared bigger things...

 

I wish there was a vegetarian krogan...



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Grunt wasn't even alive back when Ashley said that she believed in god. So she obviously meant the almighty Ra.

 

Also humans converting back to egyptian Polytheism in the ME4 semi-confirmed.

Grunt is immortal. He just didn't descend to Korlus to walk amongst mortals until his take-out order was ready.



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Probably anything drawn with Grunt eating something is always noodles besides ME2 where he hated noodles. :'( And you thought krogans feared bigger things...

 

I wish there was a vegetarian krogan...

There are. They're called appetizers.  :D



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There are. They're called appetizers.  :D

Krogans fear appetizers? But I thought there weren't any room for appetizers, because someone emptied the fridge in one gulp?



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Grunt is immortal. He just didn't descend to Korlus to walk amongst mortals until his take-out order was ready.

Blasphemy. The all powerful Ra shall call down his wrath on you and destroy you. By causing a mild sunburn that will be slightly unpleasant or by making the sun shine directly into your eyes so that you'll need to get sunglasses. B)



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Krogans fear appetizers? But I thought there weren't any room for appetizers, because someone emptied the fridge in one gulp?

Krogan only fear that there aren't going to be enough appetizers.

 



Blasphemy. The all powerful Ra shall call down his wrath on you and destroy you. By causing a mild sunburn that will be slightly unpleasant or by making the sun shine directly into your eyes so that you'll need to get sunglasses. B)

Grunt *munch* : Puny God.

shep: So...how was the all-powerful Ra?

Grunt: A little spicy. 



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I think I am over it. Its possible though because I haven't played ME3 in over a year, that I forgot how much of a disappointment the ending was. I just hope that Bioware revives the franchise with the next installation, and hopefully we can all forget about the atrocious last half hour of the game.

I still cry inside when I think of Mordin's death too. That, I am definitely not over.


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