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No one ever comes out and says that Bioware should stop making dwarves a playable race because DAO statistics clearly show that only a small percent of players play dwarves and Bioware should make more content for other races that "everyone" could enjoy instead
They did tho.
Romances are fine, aren't they like 5% of game content or something?
While having the option to romance your companions is a fine thing, I have to ask if anyone else thinks that there may be too much focus on a specific part of the game.
Would someone who doesn't want to romance for a play through suffer for not doing so? Do people see the combat and adventure..the main focus of the game to begin simply see it as annoying filler between your romance scenes?
So to reiterated. Is romance a little too focused on as appose to the larger picture of the game the adventuring the combat and such?
Too much focus?
=> No
Why?
=> Simple: Romances (at least well thought out ones) are what sets Bioware Games appart from other games in the genre (and other games in general!) and at least for me, romances are one of the reasons I replayed DA:O and even DA:2 several times (like Mass Effect - at least prior to ME3 (still hate that game...at least the story - gameplay is fine)...the other is the story choices, but some other games (like: The Witcher) have those, too!)
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It's funny how romance content is the only one that gets these kind of threads.
No one ever comes out and says that Bioware should stop making dwarves a playable race because DAO statistics clearly show that only a small percent of players play dwarves and Bioware should make more content for other races that "everyone" could enjoy instead
Romance get these kind of threads because it tends to be the most discussed topic on Bioware game forums. Dwarves are hardly ever talked about it and thus nobody could claim that there is too much emphasis on it.
This isn't really a thread about removing romance content because not enough are consuming said content, so the dwarf example makes no real sense, but it is about how romance is seemingly so important. I have to agree with others that romance is talked about a lot on this forum even if it is just a small part of the experience in Bioware games. I must say I do at times wonder if all the talk about romance could harm the sales figure of this game if too many gamers believe that DAI is just a romance game and nothing else. I disagree that DAI is going to be about that only but after ME 3, DA 2 and SWTOR there are gamers out there who may see an easy target in DAI, especially with the "emphasis" on romance options. I am of the believe that gamers have a lot of power nowadays to make a game bomb by arguing over the stupidest things. I just felt that, especially with ME3's ending gamers went a little overboard and I can easily see this happen again.
But on the other hand, I know a bunch of people who only got interested in Dragon Age and/or other BioWare games because they heard about the romance options. So for any hypothetical player who's stupid enough to think Inquisition will be some kind of dating sim, there may be another who sees all their friends on Tumblr squeeing about Cullen/Sera/Iron Bull/the hidden nug option and decides to see what all the fuss is about.
But on the other hand, I know a bunch of people who only got interested in Dragon Age and/or other BioWare games because they heard about the romance options. So for any hypothetical player who's stupid enough to think Inquisition will be some kind of dating sim, there may be another who sees all their friends on Tumblr squeeing about Cullen/Sera/Iron Bull/the hidden nug option and decides to see what all the fuss is about.
The three things that got me to buy ME2 (and then other Bioware games) were
1. It was a Sci-Fi RPG
2. I could pick the gender and customize my PC
3. Romance
So its definitely a selling point.
I think the focus is just about right. This isn't a dating sim and I am happy that it's not forced on you/ plot-related unlike some or most games.
It's there if you pursue it and it adds to the game and characters, but in the end it's just optional.
I think the focus is just about right. This isn't a dating sim and I am happy that it's not forced on you/ plot-related unlike some or most games.
It's there if you pursue it and it adds to the game and characters, but in the end it's just optional.
I agree, but unfortunately it presents an interesting problem. If you add character development that only happen during the romance, then those who don't pursue it may feel like they are missing an important part of the game. If you don't add character development, then the romance can end up shallow and meaningless.
Its a tough job balancing everything.
Technically, you could say I got into Dragon Age for the romance, but more importantly, I got into it because not everyone was straight for once. I like playing games where I'm represented. And then, of course, DA turned out to be incredibly fun and interesting, so that's incentive too.
The three things that got me to buy ME2 (and then other Bioware games) were
1. It was a Sci-Fi RPG
2. I could pick the gender and customize my PC
3. Romance
So its definitely a selling point.
This, in the case of DA just delete the sci-fi. I don't generally play RPG's where I can't create a character of my own gender, race choice is a bonus, it's probably why I've played so many MMO's over the years, BioWare make it that much better. Any other RPG tends to feel so damn lonely now..we've been spoiled with awesomeness. I still play other RPG's with a gender choice of course, I'm playing Skyrim again atm...but, it's just so...lonely.
There is no such thing as too much romance. BioWare games are like a guilty pleasure.
With each release, I'd say it creeps closer and closer to too much.
But the community has been far too obsessed with them for quite some time.
There is no such thing as too much romance. BioWare games are like a guilty pleasure.
That's not necessarily true. If you put too much emphasis on Romance you alienate a large portion of your fan base just to pander to a smaller part of your fan base.
For instance. Say Bioware tries to make a game where romance is the main theme of the game. Sure everyone here who plays Bioware games for the romance would jump on that game in an instant, but there is a good chance (Not saying this is fact, but just a good chance) that everyone who doesn't put romance high on their list of priorities they may not be all that into such a game, and thus won't buy and and Bioware doesn't see a significant profit from such a game. Sure you have a game that everyone who loves Romance enjoys greatly, but your faced with the bigger problem of not making a whole lot of money off it and that just creates a whole lot of problems.
I don't think so, no.
Romances don't eat up the game, they complement it. It is, maybe, one of the first things that players focus on before release, since it's one of the few that wouldn't reveal too much plot if shown around a little.
Dunno, it's never seemed to me that romances where too demanding of attention. They happen and flow with the game.
yeah, humans survived this long and once the super volcano explodes or a meteor hits us, or even if some small country gets stupid and launches a nuke on someone, then it'll be the end.READ THIS POST PEOPLE !
People should understand that from the few things that actually are natural and were part of us since day one (remember the Adam dude?) is the ability to love/attract one another. This is why we survived as a species because we lover/fecked each other hell of a lot and is part of our animal nature. It is not even 100% true that we are carnivors and we should kill other living things, but the one thing that we KNOW for sure we are supposed to do as individuals and as society is making sweet, sweet love and interact within each other, because this is how we survived all this time and many species did not.
Now i leave it to you to decide if recreating the most basic and vital thing there is on this world - too much. This is the primary quest/mission of our lifetime and all other things are side quests.
Dont need to keep repeating things page after page. I like romance and will do romance, its optional in DA where other games its not.
Here on the forums? Yes, there should really be a separate forum for it, imo. As far as the actual games go, it's a tiny part of the game that is inconsequential and completely ignorable, aside from the opportunity for it being presented, as it should be.
Romance is like a bone bioware throws at fans to chew on. So they keep their noses away from the bigger, more important part of the game before release.
And it works like a charm, because hardly anyone ever asks about anything else.
That makes sense I suppose. Fandoms are easily swayed by shipping.
There are only few parts of the games that I could see arguable that romance had "too much emphasis" in them.
1. Less content and/or no character development if you aren't romancing a character. Jack immediately comes to mind, although there are certainly more examples.
2. Unclear romance triggers or romance bugs that cause players to activate a romance that they didn't want to activate.
Other than that...Romances are intended to be optional (they pretty repeat that with every romance question they get) and don't factor into the majority of the game. In fact, given how many fans DO care and like the romances, it's arguable that the game could stand to have a bit more.
*shudders when thinking about the ME3 character forum*Here on the forums? Yes, there should really be a separate forum for it, imo. As far as the actual games go, it's a tiny part of the game that is inconsequential and completely ignorable, aside from the opportunity for it being presented, as it should be.
That's not necessarily true. If you put too much emphasis on Romance you alienate a large portion of your fan base just to pander to a smaller part of your fan base.
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