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[Madcat 124]

So, the Twitter thread is getting clogged up with conversations about the Ark Theory, Indoctrination Theory, and other things like that. Let's discuss it here instead so we can leave that thread for Twitter things. 

[durasteel]

I don't know what the setting of ME4 is, but I certainly hope that the so called "ark theory" is dead wrong.

 

As I understand it, the ark theory is based on the idea that it is better to throw away everything we've ever known in Mass Effect, to exile ourselves from every place our characters have ever seen, to depart forever the known Mass Effect universe, than to risk invalidating anyone's choice in the ending to Mass Effect 3. Because green space magic and refusal of the star brat can essentially result in destroying the galaxy, we have to leave the galaxy out of respect for the possibility of those outcomes.

 

I say that's bullcrap.

 

If the entire Mass Effect universe that we've explored so far in the series, from Ilum to Tuchanka, Omega to the Citadel, isn't worth saving... If all of the places and things we've seen and all of the places and things we've heard about and wanted to explore someday aren't worth keeping... If every single thing in the galaxy that isn't on a hypothetical ark ship can just be discarded for a "fresh start" in a new setting, then why the hell are we even talking about another Mass Effect game?

 

If the setting is worth fixing after the ending of 3 broke it, then BioWare should clean up the mess and let's move forward. If the setting has been broken so badly that BioWare is unable or unwilling to fix it, then it should be retired and EA can use the IP to make some kind of Battlefront type multiplayer game that I won't pay attention to.

 

Let's not make a game in a completely new and unfamiliar setting and just adapt some of the concept art and music from the trilogy and call it Mass Effect.

[Madcat 124]

I agree completely. I feel as if we're going to throw away everything, we might as well just decide on a canon ending instead and have our familiar Mass Effect Universe. Either that, or find a way for all ending to make sense some way.

 

I don't mind the idea of going to another galaxy, or even starting off in another one, but I really want to see our galaxy after the reaper war. Let me see what I fought for.

[spinachdiaper]

The next Mass Effect will start a few years after ME3. The plot will be based on a post-Destroy universe and conflicts, there will be many other ME Trilogy choices that Bioware will canonize which will rewrite previous player choices so that they can rail the story just like ME3. the plot will be about the Shepard replacement N7 solider on the Normany 3.

[MattFini]

I have no theory as to what the next game will be.

 

I would honestly be fine with most sequel concepts, though I'll echo what was said above: I want to see some old and familiar places in the new game as much as I want to explore new ones.

 

If I could choose the next game, I would actually like another Shepard adventure, but one that's completely separate from the reapers/Cerberus, etc. Just a stand-alone adventure that requires Shepard to get some of the old band back together for one last mission. Obviously that's not going to happen...but that would be my preference.

 

If not that, I would like something set 30 years after the trilogy, and with a new cast of characters. A narrative that lets me see the galaxy post-Reaper War, but with new places, threats, etc.

 

Honestly, as long as it's not a prequel, I'll probably be okay with whatever they come up with. 

[Farangbaa]

Space opera.

[Nitrocuban]

I'd just like to know what BW had in mind when they wrote the ending(s) for ME3.

They sure wanted (or were told) to further monetise the well established ME franchise with future games. But the more I think about it, the more I feel ME3 made it incredible hard to do so.

[KrrKs]

I'm hoping of some kind of exploration setting.

A newly opened relay to a new Star Cluster -> several species/corporations/groups/whatever that fight for the most profitable resource locations/habitable planets.

This sort of thing.

And the player in between as either surveyor/explorer or mercenary or similar ( as background choice, that should also affect certain game attributes)

 

But everything still in the milky way.

[CptFalconPunch]

Space opera with tons of exploration, worlds etc. It will be increadibly mainstream and boring from an art perspective, and the universe won't be as fleshed out. It will also contain less creativity and magic, not space magic, but beautiful magic.

 

It will have worse music, okay characters and thats it.

 

My hopes aren't really high...

[BassStyles]

How about the Crucible Theory? What if once the Crucible was triggered, it created an alternate reality/space warp (for lack of a better word) and sent the Shepard into this alternate reality/new galaxy which is where he is grasping for breath at the end of HEMS Destroy?

Just some ideas I'm tossing out there but it could be similar to how the nuclear bomb on LOST acted as a reset switch maybe? Maybe it's like Zelda: OoT where two timelines run tangent now, the timeline that we know at the end of ME3 where your choice of Destroy, Control, and Synthesis still exist but the Crucible triggered this new alternate timeline as well, opening the way for the next ME.

Maybe the new character for ME runs into your Shep in this new galaxy/reality?

Again just tossing some ideas around the central idea that the Crucible is responsible for setting up the events on the next ME. Perhaps we didn't quite know what all the Crucible was capable of doing once it fired.

[Heimdall]

My Interpretation of Ark Theory

[Madcat 124]

Space opera with tons of exploration, worlds etc. It will be increadibly mainstream and boring from an art perspective, and the universe won't be as fleshed out. It will also contain less creativity and magic, not space magic, but beautiful magic.

 

It will have worse music, okay characters and thats it.

 

My hopes aren't really high...

Aren't you a ray of sunshine.

 

 

My Interpretation of Ark Theory

 

I understand that people aren't to thrilled about Bioware making their decisions not matter, but I feel as if we are getting in to a new trilogy it wouldn't really matter much.

 

Honestly, the biggest slap in the face to me is not knowing what happened to the galaxy we saved. 

[Kabooooom]

I don't know what the setting of ME4 is, but I certainly hope that the so called "ark theory" is dead wrong.

As I understand it, the ark theory is based on the idea that it is better to throw away everything we've ever known in Mass Effect, to exile ourselves from every place our characters have ever seen, to depart forever the known Mass Effect universe, than to risk invalidating anyone's choice in the ending to Mass Effect 3. Because green space magic and refusal of the star brat can essentially result in destroying the galaxy, we have to leave the galaxy out of respect for the possibility of those outcomes.

I say that's bullcrap.

If the entire Mass Effect universe that we've explored so far in the series, from Ilum to Tuchanka, Omega to the Citadel, isn't worth saving... If all of the places and things we've seen and all of the places and things we've heard about and wanted to explore someday aren't worth keeping... If every single thing in the galaxy that isn't on a hypothetical ark ship can just be discarded for a "fresh start" in a new setting, then why the hell are we even talking about another Mass Effect game?

If the setting is worth fixing after the ending of 3 broke it, then BioWare should clean up the mess and let's move forward. If the setting has been broken so badly that BioWare is unable or unwilling to fix it, then it should be retired and EA can use the IP to make some kind of Battlefront type multiplayer game that I won't pay attention to.

Let's not make a game in a completely new and unfamiliar setting and just adapt some of the concept art and music from the trilogy and call it Mass Effect.

Ark Theory or not, I will seriously bet you twenty bucks right now that somehow, in some way, Bioware WILL make a game that completely ignores ME3's endings, is completely divorced from Shepard's story, and is drastically different than the previous Mass Effect trilogy in terms of style and setting. No foolies. Twenty bucks.

And people are going to be so, so pissed. The nerdrage will be glorious.

I'm betting that some semblance of either Ark Theory or Dark Energy theory is correct. I'd prefer the Dark Energy route, to be honest.

[Madcat 124]

Ark Theory or not, I will seriously bet you twenty bucks right now that somehow, in some way, Bioware WILL make a game that completely ignores ME3's endings, is completely divorced from Shepard's story, and is drastically different than the previous Mass Effect trilogy in terms of style and setting. No foolies. Twenty bucks.

And people are going to be so, so pissed. The nerdrage will be glorious.

I'm betting that some semblance of either Ark Theory or Dark Energy theory is correct. I'd prefer the Dark Energy route, to be honest.

I can see the dark Energy being the new threat. I know people want the game to not be about saving the galaxy, but I honestly can't see Bioware going that route, especially after Dragon Age 2's self contained story flopped, and Mass Effect was pretty all about saving the galaxy. 

 

Personally, I prefer saving the galaxy in some way. 

[Heimdall]

Aren't you a ray of sunshine.

 

 

 

I understand that people aren't to thrilled about Bioware making their decisions not matter, but I feel as if we are getting in to a new trilogy it wouldn't really matter much.

 

Honestly, the biggest slap in the face to me is not knowing what happened to the galaxy we saved. 

But we do know, its called the Extended Cut.  Use your imagination from there.  That's quite enough for me.

[CptFalconPunch]

Aren't you a ray of sunshine.

 

It's not that I was dissapointed from any mass effect game, i just think the more industrialized a game becomes, the more mainstream and uninspired it will end up being.

 

Deep inside, I want to be dead wrong.

[kyban]

No idea. But it has humans in N7 armor, and that makes me happy.