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[dduane o]

This is really simple, and just curious.  Redcliffe had been showcased a lot actually during this past few weeks either via screenshots or the demo.  From the demo, I couldn't even recognize the new Redcliffe anymore.  From past interviews from Gameinformer, I realized something when they interviewed Mark Darrah and Mike Laidlaw (the M&M's).  They mentioned that the campaign is suppose to span from western Orlais to Eastern Ferelden, and from that I thought of Denerim.

 

Denerim have been destroyed after the fifth blight, the castle was mainly not damaged since that is where the king and queen got married, but I am curious.  

 

How is Denerim?

Will it be included in the game? (It's practically the central hub of political stuff in Ferelden)

Will it also have a major make over?

 

I guess this would also apply to Orzammar. (I just wished it's not like Origins where I have to hunt a freaking paragon again, if there was a rubber stopper that prevents Orzammar to sink into that lava I would have pulled it.) 

 

[thats1evildude]

I doubt strongly that Denerim will be in the game. Halamshiral seems to be the main "city hub" for Inquisition.

[Althix]

destroyed? Denerim?

[darthnick427]

I would say Orzammar is more likely to make an appearance than Denerim at this stage of the game. From what I remember from information the devs released, the game's map to explore would range from eastern Orlais to western Fereldan. Since Denerim is in the eastern most region of Fereldan, I believe the likelihood of returning there is rather slim.

 

That being said I would love to return there and see how the city is fairing post Blight. Though, like I said, it is terribly unlikely.

[Gervaise]

I think part of the advantage of now having an open world setting is you get a real sense of distance between places.   That is why we have been provided with mounts.  Redcliffe is the first line of defence on the western border of Ferelden.   Whenever an enemy invades from the west they focus on taking Redcliffe because it is the logically base to mount an invasion.    Denerim is much further to the east, almost as far as the ocean.   It is a harbour city with the river connecting it to the sea.   You have to cross most of the hinterland to reach it.   Origins didn't really give you a sense of how far it is because we were transported quickly from one location to another.  However, if you bear in mind that it actually took around a year to end the Blight, it is clear that in reality much of this time was spent travelling between the main locations.   It is also why when we discover the main darkspawn army is not at Redcliffe but heading for Denerim, it is not going to be possible to reach there in time to stop them entering the city.   Since much of the action in Inquisition seems to take place in Orlais, this would be why we only cover the side of Ferelden that borders that nation.

 

Redcliffe looks different because the developers explain that it suffered a great deal of damage in the darkspawn attack, so effectively it had to be rebuilt, even if it didn't look like this at the time.   The same comment applies for Denerim and since it is a much larger settlement than Redcliffe, the reconstruction is probably still on going.  

[Little Princess Peach]

you never know it might be added in an dlc

[Chronoreaper]

i agree it might just be a DLC or might possibly be just a camio appearance were you head there for a single instance to get a audience with the king and queen

[Deebo305]

Unlikely, Denerim is on the other side of Ferelden and the is focusing on Western Ferelden and Orlais. So at most we'll Redcliffe, Frostback mountains, and maybe Lake Calenhand along with the Circle Tower but the rest is probably Orlais

[Chronoreaper]

Aye that is true doubt we'll see Vigils keep or amaranthine either same with the rebuilt lothering

[Askanison666]

Aye that is true doubt we'll see Vigils keep or amaranthine either same with the rebuilt lothering

I would get a kick out of seeing Vigils Keep and a rebuilt Lothering. The old dude with his poison traps made it through the Blight (if I remember the letters to Hawke correctly) so maybe he went back!

[Vindicare175]

I don't believe Denerim was destroyed , busted up yes but not completely leveled. We are going to Ferelden (Unless I'm mistaken) it IS a possibility we may visit Denerim , will have to wait and find out.

[Gtdef]

Perhaps we will visit Denerim but we will only see a small part of it. From what we know about the story I don't think that using resources to build the whole city will do any good, but visiting a specific part to ask for assistance or something is viable.

[The Ascendant]

We will primarily be in Orlais and the Dales. I hope we can return to old places such as Denerim and the Circle Tower but I think we will be llimited to western Ferelden, so that doesn't cross of Orzammar. I would love to see the Vigil and Amaranthine again, but we'll see.

[KC_Prototype]

Denerim recovered from the 5th Blight. I am really hoping to see Denerim in DAI. Seeing it in the Frostbite 3 engine would be amazing! Also, didn't Bioware say from Western Orlais to Eastern Ferelden? 

[LenaMarie]

I was thinking Orzammar and the Deep Roads would be far more likely then Denerim and by that token, Amaranthine/Vigil's Keep. From what's been released so far the game just extends into the Hinterlands,  which does include Haven (Urn of Sacred Ashes), Honnleath (Shale DLC), Ostagar and Lothering, so those could appear. 

[Chronoreaper]

Lothering is just slightly further past Redcliffe which i located within central-south fereldan, another concept that might be interesting is if in the trailers if the wardens that are attacked were at Soldiers Peak that could possibly be passed off as a western or central fereldan location.

 

And for those wondering about Denerim go play Witch Hunt and click the details part when your in the map screen it will tell you about all the locations that appear on the map.

[LenaMarie]

Regarding Redcliff there are two states of it we know of. Either way, before the March to denerim, apparently the Darkspawn destroy redcliff, but that is where decisions come into play, confirmed by Witch Hunt DLC.  If you let the undead from the Connor quest kill everyone in the Village, by Witch Hunt the Village is a overgrown ruin because there was no people rebuild, but if you saved the town, it gets rebuilt by the the npcs you saved in Redcliff.  I went back to load up some witch hunt saves and confirmed it on the map screen.

 

So I think thats what Bioware has been showing, if you didnt save the Townsfolk, in your game Redcliff will be a overgrown ruin, but if you did it was rebuilt and thus looks different.

 

As a little tidbit, I haven't confirmed it yet, but i think if Redcliff was destroyed, Lothering is rebuilt, but if Redcliff was rebuilt people from Lothering goto Redcliff instead and Lothering is a ruin. At least, in my Witch Hunt save where Redcliff is in ruins, it shows Lothering Rebuilt.

 

This would make sense, because I imagine the Region needs to have at least one village where people live in.

[dduane o]

Denerim recovered from the 5th Blight. I am really hoping to see Denerim in DAI. Seeing it in the Frostbite 3 engine would be amazing! Also, didn't Bioware say from Western Orlais to Eastern Ferelden? 

 

Mark Darrah mentioned this twiced, once during the interview with Gameinformer "Exploring the world of Thedas" and when they were showcasing the pre alpha build at Pax Prime.  I know I wasn't crazy!!! haha!!!

 

I got worried when they were showing redcliffe since I couldn't even recognize where the windmill was.  I know that thing was still standing since it's the only structure during the redcliffe invasion that wasn't overrun.

[dduane o]

SInce we are in Ferelden, I actually walk on the Imperial highway, I saw a hint of it in one of the trailer with Cullen lion mask.  I just want to cruise there and walk all the way to Lothering and reminisce the butt kicking I gave to the bandits during the fifth blight. 

[thats1evildude]

I think you're right about everything except Lothering. Lothering is always rebuilt. The Hero of Ferelden gets a statue built in the middle of Lothering in their honor.

Lothering gets abandoned. By mid-DA2, they have ceased efforts to reclaim the place.

[LenaMarie]

Lothering gets abandoned. By mid-DA2, they have ceased efforts to reclaim the place.

 

If I recall DA2, It does still get rebuilt but because of the blighted lands, farming efforts go awry and they abandon it, but the town itself is likely standing. I don't see them destroying the town on the way out. Still could be some folk living there by DA:I. Usually always stubborn holdouts.

[thats1evildude]

No, Lothering is gone. Leandra gets a letter about it in Act 2 of DA2, which follows the events of Witch Hunt.

 

"Dearest Leandra,

 

Things are slowly getting back to normal in most of the country, but Lothering is gone for good. We hoped to rebuild there, but the Blight poisoned the land. It'll take decades for the earth to recover. It may never.

Redcliffe is a nice place, and I'm starting to see it as home. The village saw some trouble during the Blight, but it's recovering. Perhaps you could visit sometime.

Please write me again, my dear. I wish to hear about your life in Kirkwall. Send my regrets and fond regards to the children.

Your friend,

Miriam"

 

Whether a statue to the Warden still stands there is unknown.

[dduane o]

No, Lothering is gone. Leandra gets a letter about it in Act 2 of DA2, which follows the events of Witch Hunt.

 

"Dearest Leandra,

 

Things are slowly getting back to normal in most of the country, but Lothering is gone for good. We hoped to rebuild there, but the Blight poisoned the land. It'll take decades for the earth to recover. It may never.

Redcliffe is a nice place, and I'm starting to see it as home. The village saw some trouble during the Blight, but it's recovering. Perhaps you could visit sometime.

Please write me again, my dear. I wish to hear about your life in Kirkwall. Send my regrets and fond regards to the children.

Your friend,

Miriam"

 

Whether a statue to the Warden still stands there is unknown.

 

HAH! The Blight poisoned the land? It's that dude that you give poison to that poisoned it.  I knew he was too old to manage poisons. Darn it.