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[Heimdall]

I still say that...
 

• BioWare will have a ME:N ARK similar to DA Keep
• They will have in that ME:N ARK a place for you to place ME trilogy settings
• DA and ME have nowhere near the same story effects.   While you could play a renegade **** heel through out one, and a paragon angel the next, it kind'a didn't feel the same as when you were dealing with a whole other protagonist. 
• As with above, the story effects from the ME trilogy will be dealt with the same way that they are dealt with in DA.  Sure, a couple'a lines may change, but that's about it.  It will be nothing major as you're all expecting with the ME trilogy of games. 

If you think about it, you actually have to work to find references to the other games in DA.  In ME, they were all laid out there, before you.  Because you only had yourself (or rather Shepard) to deal with.  And in this game...   There is no Shepard.  So, change a couple'a lines and voila.

Ignoring that Shepard's choices changed the shape of the entire galaxy...

[goishen]

Not ignoring it, just not making such a huge deal out of it.  They're prolly gonna change a couple'a lines of text just like they did with DA2 and DA:I.

 

Remember, ME was a trilogy based around one person.  DA is a story to be told over multiple people over generations.  Obviously DA's story wouldn't have the same effect as it would on Shepard.  Because Shepard has consequences to face.  Other people don't.

[ZerebusPrime]

Ark Theory.  I'd say that's a new one to me.  I've considered having mass cryogenic stasis ships hiding out in deep space where the Reapers can't find them, but traveling all the way to another galaxy and hoping to outrun the Reapers in the process?

 

Lunacy.  I see no reason for the Reapers to not be harvesting Andromeda as well.  They have the numbers and the time to make a circuitous route between the Milky Way, Andromeda, and an uncomfortably large portion of the Local Group without missing a beat.

 

An Ark would have to calculate the probable scale of such a Reaper migratory path and aim to escape beyond that or else pray that wherever it does go isn't next on the Reaper's itinerary.  That or plan to build a Reaper-stomping army in under a thousand years' time and hope the Reapers don't catch them in the act.  I don't know; there's a lot to think about here.  I think I'll just go watch Titan: After Earth now.

 

EDIT: Whoops.  Unintentional thread necromancy on my part.  That's what I get for coming into BSN through a google search instead of the main page.

[SimonTheFrog]

You underestimate the power of writing...

 

If the team wants the next ME to take place in andromeda, they surely can write a story that allows that. Also, who says that ME:N needs to happen in the same timeline/universe as the trilogy anyhow?

 

Also, the Ark not just a theory... it's a beacon of hope. Hope that someday the pain caused by the endings will not longer linger in the deeper regions of our collective soul. It's a metaphor for moving on...

[dorktainian]

cannot see this happening to be fair.

 

How would anyone be able to conceal the fact that some people were going to 'leg it' while the rest of the population were sacrificed?  It makes less sense than synthesis being legit, and even less sense than controlling the reapers being a 'good idea' and 'possible'.

 

ok ok.  say there is an ark constructed.  The reapers would surely know about it because circular logic meaning the reapers would know about it....etc....

 

Why not just drum up a theory like 'computer failure theory' in which the whole trilogy was an attempt to reconstruct commander shepards data inside a computer after data corruption?

 

Hell... why not just discount the whole trilogy as a bad idea?

 

This scenario would be averted if you destroy the reapers.  We win.  Reapers lose.  Galaxy saved.  Next game please.....

[SimonTheFrog]

My speculation is anyway that the next ME game will be about rebuilding a reaper-free galaxy.

 

Remember the concept art of the new mass effect relay? And the new citadel that looks similar to the old? To me, that looks like the next mass effect will be in a state of the galaxy where the citadel and the relays are destroyed and are currently re-invented and rebuild (probably under the project name ARKCON).

 

How the reaper-threat was eliminated will probably not be mentioned in big detail (as this is not relevant for the next story line and only causes issues the more you go into details). Just the fact: reapers are no longer an issue. Instead: rebuilding and creating our own future with our own technology!

 

My guess is that our hero will be part of the team that goes where no-one else has gone before to expand the new relay network

[Nitrocuban]

We don't even know if it was a relay or some sort of citadel we saw. Really hard to take that as proof for anything.

[Mcfly616]

We're not going to another galaxy. Anybody with hopes of that should just drop it now or end up disappointed.

[Drone223]

We're not going to another galaxy. Anybody with hopes of that should just drop it now or end up disappointed.

It wouldn't be a good idea either since it would mean ditching most if not all the established lore, locations and organizations etc. They also clearly want to maintain a "fresh but familiar" feel with the next game.

[Vazgen]

We're not going to another galaxy. Anybody with hopes of that should just drop it now or end up disappointed.

I don't want to move to a new galaxy. But I don't think we'll be able to visit places from the trilogy.

[Drone223]

I don't want to move to a new galaxy. But I don't think we'll be able to visit places from the trilogy.

Mabye not in the next game but more likely future titles.

[InterrogationBear]

Maybe not another galaxy, but a part of the milky way that is not connected to the relay network.

 

This looks like a jump gate...

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... that belong to this civilization.

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And the A.R.K.C.O.N logo looks suspiciously like the "gate entrance" in the first picture.

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[Drone223]

Maybe not another galaxy, but a part of the milky way that is not connected to the relay network.

This looks like a jump gate...

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... that belong to this civilization.

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And the A.R.K.C.O.N logo looks suspiciously like the "gate entrance" in the first picture.

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I'd say that's more likely since the vast majority of relay's are inactive and 98% of the galaxy is unexplored.

[Han Shot First]

That Arkcon logo has me wondering whether the Ark theory is correct. 

[marcelo caldas]

Ark theory = Crap

 

If its true, BW should rather remake ME3 with a plausible ending than discard everything

 

I would find hard to swallow such a game 

[Mcfly616]

Ark theory is crap. It's one of the most overused tropes amongst overused tropes.

 

 

ME3's ending is plausible enough. No need to remake anything.

[Drone223]

 

 

If its true, BW should rather remake ME3 with a plausible ending than discard everything

 

 

The game is nearly 3 years old, Bioware aren't going to change the endings or ME3.

[Memnon]

My memory might be hazy, and even if it isn't they may have changed their minds ... but didn't Bioware explicitly state after ME3 that they were never going to select an ending as canon? If that holds true, then I don't see how they would manage a sequel in the same galaxy

[Drone223]

My memory might be hazy, and even if it isn't they may have changed their minds ... but didn't Bioware explicitly state after ME3 that they were never going to select an ending as canon? If that holds true, then I don't see how they would manage a sequel in the same galaxy

Selecting a canon ending would be better than ditching the galaxy since it gives the devs something to work with.

[goishen]

They've stated, I believe, that whatever you chose as your ending was canon.

[Kabooooom]

I'd say that's more likely since the vast majority of relay's are inactive and 98% of the galaxy is unexplored.

98% of the galaxy is unexplored, yes, but the relay network doesn't cover anywhere near that. It only covers a tiny fraction of the stars in the galaxy, with each primary relay pair being separated by vast swaths of unexplored space.

This is something that most mass effect fans still dont seem to understand. The milky way is massive, and the lore indicates that the relay network barely scratches the surface. Probably, the network encompasses all habitable or potentially habitable worlds, with most star systems off the network being unlikely to give rise to life. That's a worst case scenario. Best case scenario are that the Reapers were just lazy.

So going off the relay network is basically a no-go from a lore and story standpoint. But activating a dormant relay to a previously inaccessible region of the network? Huge potential there. But throwing the 98% figure around is kind of misleading.

[Memnon]

Selecting a canon ending would be better than ditching the galaxy since it gives the devs something to work with.

 

Oh, I agree ... the issue with selecting a canon ending is that Bioware is likely to alienate those who chose the other two (three if you count Refuse) endings. I can see the appeal of starting fresh in a brand new galaxy without the proverbial baggage of having to deal with the endings and reopening that can of worms (not that it ever closed entirely)

[Drone223]

98% of the galaxy is unexplored, yes, but the relay network doesn't cover anywhere near that. It only covers a tiny fraction of the stars in the galaxy, with each primary relay pair being separated by vast swaths of unexplored space.

This is something that most mass effect fans still dont seem to understand. The milky way is massive, and the lore indicates that the relay network barely scratches the surface. Probably, the network encompasses all habitable or potentially habitable worlds, with most star systems off the network being unlikely to give rise to life. That's a worst case scenario. Best case scenario are that the Reapers were just lazy.

So going off the relay network is basically a no-go from a lore and story standpoint. But activating a dormant relay to a previously inaccessible region of the network? Huge potential there. But throwing the 98% figure around is kind of misleading.

No one said that the relay's cover all the galaxy, they only lead one star system in a star cluster, they have to then relay on regular ftl in order to explore the rest of that star cluster.

 

Oh, I agree ... the issue with selecting a canon ending is that Bioware is likely to alienate those who chose the other two (three if you count Refuse) endings. I can see the appeal of starting fresh in a brand new galaxy without the proverbial baggage of having to deal with the endings and reopening that can of worms (not that it ever closed entirely)

No matter what bioware does it make people upset so they may as pick a canon ending and get it over and done with. If they set the next game in another galaxy they may as well make a new IP instead since most of things that people have associated the franchise with will be gone for good.

[Maverick888]

I feel like the ending of Mass Effect 3 was purposely done so that they can retcon it. And its a very easy thing for them to do. Remember, the ending scene with the boy and adult, staring at the stars on whatever planet they were on and the entire series is revealed to be that, just a story.

 

Boy: Is that how it happened?

Adult: Yes but some of the details have been lost in time

 

And there you have it. You can base that off a sequel. How? By losing the details of the original endings, they never happened. That part of the story was fabricated. Shepard may have saved the galaxy, but the way he did so, was differently than what was expressed in the story told to the boy.

 

Also where has Bioware explicitly stated that this game takes place after the reaper war is over with? This game could take place during the reaper invasion, or it could even take place a decade before. It could take place within the same timeline as Shepard, but Shepard could be a space cadet, who is on assignment on Torfan and getting his squad killed. And we're out pathfinding new worlds (I think the council did that, they would go out and send first contact parties to primitive species, much like the protheans did)

 

It would make sense to make this game take place within Shepard's lifetime, but to keep it at a portion where Shepard hasn't achieved the fame and glory that he had when the first three games took place. So that it focuses on the character in the next game.

[Nitrocuban]

Every way to "continue" ME has its drawbacks. Some more, some less.