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#426
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I still think our relations with council races will be minimal.  Call it me, but that's what I think.   I think that BioWare has been so burned (and burned out) by ME (and Shepard) that they're just gonna start again and start over in another portion of the universe.  Sure, we see that krogan standing on that planet.  How many more?   I'm guessing not many.  Plus, if they do it this way, it does minimalizes the affect to the existing ME universe.  If they brought over everyone, it might be a huge screw up, and there they are looking like a bunch of people who really screwed up the MEU.

 

 

The reason for me saying this is because of Frostbite 3.  Along with some other factors, but this is the main cause.  They got a brand new engine and are just now trying it out with the MEU.  What I'm thinking that this means is epic space battles, like a space sim.  See some of Jos's tweets for evidence.  Put 2 and 2 together to come to a conclusion.  Put these and Rebel Galaxy together...    And there you have it.  With some dramatic moments, and some cut scenes on planets.  In other words, they're gonna make aliens seem alien.  I.E., not like us with blue hair tentacles or wearing an environmental protection suit.

 

My two cents, anyway.

 

EDIT :  Jos has tweeted hashtag space (#space) more than once. 

 

EDIT x 2 :  BTW, I have no inside information.  This is just me neckbearding everything, so if you wanna take with a grain of salt, here's the salt shaker.



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I still think our relations with council races will be minimal.

 

They showed off asari, salarians and krogan two years ago to a select group of fans, so this is really doubtful I think. Plus, Yanick Roy and Aaryn Flynn bring up the "we're bringing back the alien species" almost constantly. 

 

If they really are moving to a new galaxy, the Council races are almost necessary to make it feel like Mass Effect. 

 

Why would existing fans of the first trilogy buy this game if it has nothing in common with what came before? And what development team would abandon one of the most popular parts of the franchise, which is the alien races?


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#428
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Right, but if you only see the races at the beginning, and then towards the end...   They are in the game.  It's just you'll have minimal contact.  Also, alien species covers everything non-human. 



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Right, but if you only see the races at the beginning, and then towards the end...   They are in the game.  It's just you'll have minimal contact.  Also, alien species covers everything non-human. 

 

It seems a bit silly to spend resources on creating aliens in Frostbite only for them to not be in the game. 


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Let's go ahead and bump this puppy for both the interested and skeptical parties.

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Let's go ahead and bump this puppy for both the interested and skeptical parties.

 

Moar Ark thread :D



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Moar Ark thread :D

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Couldn't The Ark have been in development while the Reaper war was occurring? When the Reapers were destroyed/controlled/synthesized, The Ark could have been near completion, so whoever was building it gave the go ahead to finish it anyway. I mean, much of the Milky Way is in ruins anyway, I'm sure many people would still support leaving after the war. So, the Ark could then have plenty of time to be finished, and launched. Geth technology allowed them to communicate instantly if I remember correctly, so that could be used to justify The Ark as a colonization mission or as a method to expand the surviving species in case of another Reaper invasion. Who's to say the Reapers can't return in 50,000 years?

What confuses me is that I don't see people that consider that the Reapers are gone for 50,000 years, doing what? I've always thought they were harvesting other galaxies, so it's possible the Reapers are still a threat and that the Crucible only fixed the problem in the Milky Way at the moment.

Too bad Andromeda and the Milky Way aren't set to collide for another 4 billion years, that could be an interesting plot.

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Couldn't The Ark have been in development while the Reaper war was occurring? 

 

That is one of fan theories kicked about. This game is most likely set in Andromeda to avoid having to address the greatly diverging results of ME3's end choices, so they'd probably have Milky Way colonists leave at some point prior to the finale of ME3. 



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Some of them probably wouldn't make it.  The Geth, because nobody would trust them though I wouldn't rule them out.

 

One thing I've wondered about the Geth -- if you can send an unmanned probe to a distant system, and it could go faster than a manned vessel due to being able to leave out life support, some inertial dampers, et cetera, and it could build a manufacturing plant and receiver there, couldn't you then send actual Geth there purely via a comm channel, perhaps even instantly via a QEC?  If the Geth are a part of this, I wonder if they're a critical part of making the trip actually work.



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And how do these discharging facilities work? Also, simple physics would suggest that if if the charge can be discharged into the hull to create heat, there must be a way to discharge it in a way that generates some other sort of energy, such as light or x-rays.

 

Maybe it can be discharged to fire the Wave Motion Gun, but only once per episode.



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The Omega 4 Relay leads to the galactic core, where the Collector base resides on the edge of a black hole. Standard relay transit protocols often result in a drift of several thousand kilometers from the intended position, but this is fatal in the galactic core. As a result, the area is filled with debris from the many ships which had used the relay without a Reaper IFF and hence did not survive. The Reaper IFF triggers advanced safety protocols in the Omega 4 Relay, which would ensure a ship survived coming into close range of the black hole.



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The Omega 4 Relay leads to the galactic core, where the Collector base resides on the edge of a black hole. Standard relay transit protocols often result in a drift of several thousand kilometers from the intended position, but this is fatal in the galactic core. As a result, the area is filled with debris from the many ships which had used the relay without a Reaper IFF and hence did not survive. The Reaper IFF triggers advanced safety protocols in the Omega 4 Relay, which would ensure a ship survived coming into close range of the black hole.

I'm confused...what does this half to do with the Ark again?

Also, the advanced protocols were used to make the relay more accurate, yes, but that's not why the ship graveyard was there. Most of the time, after the relay jump the ships would be caught in the gravity well of the black hole and be unable to escape. Occasionally, some ships by chance would wind up in the "safe zone". When they do, they are destroyed by the Collectors and their automated defenses. That's why the ship graveyard is there. It existed in the safe zone near the counterpart of the Omega-4 relay in the galactic core, and they were the result of destruction by the Collectors. Every ship that didn't make it into the safe zone, presumably, would be pulled into the black hole. The IFF makes the relay targeting more accurate so that this drift doesn't occur and there is a 100% probability of ending up in the safe zone. At least, that is what ME2 very heavily implies.

#439
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The more I read the leak, and watch videos of confirmed and unconfirmed information, the more I start to believe the ark theory.



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How far do you travel in ME2 when you go through the omega-4 relay? i know you go to the core, but how far is that?



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How far do you travel in ME2 when you go through the omega-4 relay? i know you go to the core, but how far is that?

Hard to say, since the galactic core is a big place and we don't know where in the galactic core we end up. 



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they say it's a long time after ME3, but it can't be "that" long . I mean science and technology evolves and after centuries ( presumably ) , they'll still be exploring in a MAKO and wear some edulcorated N7 armor ... Yet they've made FTL travel a piece of cake from what we see in the trailer ... 

bah, space magic explains everything. 



#443
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Basically, Ark theory is the theory that as the world comes to an end humans will try to ensure their survival by packing as many people and resources as they can into a ship and launching them into space to find a new world to colonize and rebuild. It also has a counterpart, bunker theory (or Vault theory as I like to call it after the Fallout videogame series), which is basically the same thing except that instead of going into space to find a new home, we humanity will hide underground and wait until the apocalypse is over.  



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 I don't like the Ark Theory. I find it too pessimistic in the context of the ME universe, exploring for new worlds only because our own is no longer usable. Right after winning victory over the Reapers we abandon our galaxy like rats from a sinking ship.



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 I don't like the Ark Theory. I find it too pessimistic in the context of the ME universe, exploring for new worlds only because our own is no longer usable. Right after winning victory over the Reapers we abandon our galaxy like rats from a sinking ship.

 

I don't think that's what ark theory is about....or at least I haven't seen anyone yet speculate that an ark leaves the Milky Way after the war because the Reapers permanently trashed the place & made the former home worlds uninhabitable. 

 

The most common version of it is that the ark project is a Plan B that the Council had in the works, in the event that the Reaper War might be lost. Its a plan to ensure sapient space-faring life is preserved even if the Crucible fails. Most people also speculate that it would probably leave during the course of the Reaper War and prior to the Crucible firing, because the whole reason for the Andromeda setting is likely so that the devs wouldn't have to address the results of ME3's widely diverging endings. 

 

Assuming you had one of the High EMS endings of the Shepard trilogy, life and galactic civilization probably continues back in the Milky Way. It's just no longer relevant to the Ark passengers since they've permanently left the Milky Way behind.



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Who says it has anything to do with the Reaper War?

The arkmcould be a deep space exploration dhip, it could be a mainly civilian fleet stranded in the Andromeda galaxy by accident or a something the council built long before in case of an extinction event motivated by something like the Rachmi War or the Krogan renellion.

And I bet we get to Andromeda by instant wormhole travel without a way back.



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Who says it has anything to do with the Reaper War?

The arkmcould be a deep space exploration dhip, it could be a mainly civilian fleet stranded in the Andromeda galaxy by accident or a something the council built long before in case of an extinction event motivated by something like the Rachmi War or the Krogan renellion.

And I bet we get to Andromeda by instant wormhole travel without a way back.

 

If all the familiar species are going to make the journey (which may not be the case), the colonists would have to leave during the Reaper War for that to make sense. Without the galactic unity imposed by the Reaper War, its hard to picture the Council making room for Krogan, Quarians, or Batarians. In order to have humans aboard the ark would also have to leave at some point after the First Contact War.



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Yeah, sure MEA will start during the Reaper War, but that does not mean the Ark was built during or as reaction to the Reaper War.

Like I posted a couple of times before the Ark could be a relict like cold war bunkers in our time. Something that was built centuries ago for reasons that don't even exist anymore. Like the Rachni War and stuff.

Say the Ark is wating next to an unstable wormhole with unknown exit, some scientists (lots of Salarians and Quarians) still doing reasearch on it, soldiers guarding the Ark and the wormhole (NATO like multi-species team), the next shift is about to take over for the next 12 months as suddenly a (group of) civilian ship drops out of FTL, followed by a Reaper fleet.

Time to wipe off the dust of that old consoles on the Ark and take everyone that is not dead yet with us ...