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[CyberEwan]

Hi everyone. We all know that one of the main sub-plots of Inquisition is going to be the war going on between the Mages and the Templars. My question to all of you is, how will you roll your Inquisitor in dealing with the conflict? Will you be pro-mage and attempt to attain mage freedom? Or pro-templar and try to subdue the mages once more? Or will you try to drive some sense into these people and find a middle ground?

 

Personally on my first playthrough I will try a Neutral path (presuming there is one); I think both sides have good points, so a compromise is the best choice.

[The Elder King]

Considering what it was hinted of mages' and templars' behaviours in the Hinterlands (where the plot seems to focus on), I think that I'll drive some sense in their robe-covered bodies.

[Maclimes]

First playthrough is going to be totally winging it. No plans for romance, conflicts, or allegiances. Just gonna see what happens.

[Big I]

I'll be pro-mage. Hopefully there'll be some option to restore the Circles but give them governance over their own affairs.

[Eveangaline]

I will make all the mages into templars and all the templars into mages! Then my army of mage-templar hybrids will go forth and rule the world!

 

Nah ima wing it the first time. I'm generally pro-mage because they don't really give you a real way to be pro-templar while still saying "hey this whole system needs to be reformed in a lot of ways and I don't like the chantry being attached to it, can we get some of the monarchy in here to plan this **** out with regards to laws and standards?" and I can't generally blame someone for not being in part of a broken system. Still it depends on a case by case basis. I mean if you're running around doing blood magic with other peoples blood or summoning demons, ima probably stab yah.

[LenaMarie]

I plan to go neutral, I envision a plan where the Circle of Magi becomes a Hogwarts and the premiere instution for Mage Education in Thedas, and a place of safety for Mages. The Templars would still exist but as a police force and have no say in the circle, their job is purely investigating allegations or evil mages in the land and putting a stop to such things. The Seekers I would put on Oversight, an organization made of mages and normal people who make sure Templars arent abusing their role as seen in DA2. By the same token they'd investigation any allegations of corruption in circles and they'd hold the option for the Right of annulment as a last resort. Other then that, I'd make mages who want to be free, free. 

 

Of course I'd probably have to dismantle the chantry... but so be it.  I really hope these are actual options.

[KainD]

[MisterJB]

First beat some sense into them both.

Then, restore the Circle with an increased accountability on the Templars.

[Darth Death]

Never thought I'd be glad to see a mage/templar thread, but after the countless romance threads going about, I'm indeed relieved to see this one.

 

Regarding the topic, I want to be a mage that subdues other mages. A mage inquisitor I feel is relevant to the magic green hand that connects to the fade.  

[The Elder King]

I want to add that it seems unlikely that we'll affect the mage-templar war as a whole, but only in the area the plot will be present.

[martiancake]

Grab them both by their ears and make them stand in the naughty corner until they apologize? No?

 

I'll probably try for a middle-ground compromise. If that's not possible... sorry Templars. You lose. 

[StrangeStrategy]

This is such an interesting topic for me, when I first played DA2 I was pretty young and naively thought "OMG Poor mages are being treated unfairly! Not all are bad!" and Harry Potter was really big then so you can't blame me lol

Then I came back to DA2 2 years later, and realized... whoa... I'm making so many pro-Templar decisions.

The threat of any mage becoming an abomination means their MUST be someone able to control and watch the mages. Templars. Mages themselves cannot be trusted to do this, since they obviously failed to do so in the Ferelden circle. Not to mention, Templars are invisible to fade spirits unlike Mages, who apparently shine like a beacon.

 

I guess you could call me Aequetarian; I want the mages in a circle, I want them to be brought there to study and learn. But I don't want it to be a prison; I want it to be their home. When they prove they are wise and trustworthy, they'll be allowed to freely roam whatever city the tower is in, if there is one. Eventually, they'll be able to have complete freedom, so long as they report back to their tower regularly and the Templars always know their destination.

The whole problem with mages is that cruelty and lack of freedom drives them to want more, and they use their powers to get what they want. Which causes more hatred and suspicions from the Templars, which makes them stricter; vicious cycle. If Templars could be seen as guardians rather than jailors then the mages wouldn't feel the need to rebel so much.

In short, given the chance I will likely side with sane Templars rather than sane mages.

 

When it comes to Red Lyrium Templars; that's no excuse not to side with the order. Red Lyrium drives anyone, even dwarves insane. Imagine what it could do to a powerful mage. BTW, I'm not siding with Red Templars; they're insane and need to die. I'm siding with what the order stood for.

[martiancake]

Thedas just needs a Hogwarts with a really good Defense Against the Dark Arts professor. 

[Beliar86]

I'm going to slaughter most of both groups, and the few survivors of each will be forcefully conscripted into the inquisition.  Hopefully.

[TheTurtle]

I'll choose who ever is more willing to focus on more important things like the giant holes in the sky.

[Reaver102]

I'm hoping for a middle ground that can bring both parties to the table, if that is impossible I'll go with what seems right in the moment and go with the lesser of the two evils.

[Lieutenant Kurin]

*totally deadpan* The tranquil solution seems like a good idea.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Kind of hoping for four options. Either side with one of them, get them to make peace or let them beat the snot out of each other then mop up the rest and be done with them both. I imagine the latter won't be an option, but I can dream can't I? 

[Nyeredzi]

I think the " villain" whose breaking the veil is trying to solve the Mage/None Mage Conflict permanently by exposing every mundane being to the raw fade, and turning everyone mages

[MrMrPendragon]

First off, I don't believe the Inquisitor will solve the conflict just for the sake of future games. It would be hard to create a world where both "Templars win" and "Mages win" can exist.

If the conflict would end, it would be outside of our control. Maybe we'll have some influence over it, but not be in the middle of the conflict.

[MrMrPendragon]

Thedas just needs a Hogwarts with a really good Defense Against the Dark Arts professor.

Meh, Defense of the Dark Arts profs are usually in the middle of the very conflict the students are trying to avoid. No good.

[Batknight]

Well since we're on the topic and I think about this stuff way too often, here's my solution.

 

1.Grant the Circle autonomy and establish as many schools in towns and cities as possible. These would not be prisons, mages would not be forced to go there (though their parents or themselves would be informed that if they did not they would be a chance that they could turn into a monster and start killing people), they would be their temporary homes where they would learn how to control their powers. They would be allowed to visit their homes often, and once they reached the age of a adult, they could leave and live their own lives.

 

2.Templars would become more of a police force than prison guards. They would be tasked with policing any mage or demon activity that could harm anyone.

 

Merrill has my absolutely favorite line in Dragon Age 2 "fear makes men more dangerous than magic ever could." And she's completely right. Most of the harm mages do is out of fear and the loss of their individual freedom, as well as any kind of normal life. This isn't going to solve the problem completely. Mages are still going to turn into abominations and will still at times misuse their powers, and people are still going to die and get hurt because of it. But treating all mages like prisoners and taking away their rights, only makes those things far more likely too happen. 

[PinkysPain]

My solution, all the protagonists from previous DA game and the god baby go to the Black City and fully restore the veil preventing demons from posessing mages. Meanwhile dwarfes invent Lyrium amulets which protect it's wearer from Blood Magic.