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[Evil]

Sorry for asking stupid questions but what does a 6+6 Fire Explosion mean? I'm not very versed with the terms used when talking about all the fine details when it comes to detonation combos and such. 

Explosions don't do a set amount of base damage which is increased by passives and consumables like powers do.

 

Instead, they do more damage the more points you put into the two powers used to prime and detonate them.

They also do more damage on higher difficulty's than on lower ones BTW.

 

Max points into both powers (6+6) means maxed damage.

[megabeast37215]

Dat ninja..

[Terminator Force]

I always wanted to know how much do I lose from a fire explosion by 6 Carnage & 5 Incindiary Grenade, instead of the usual 66?

 

 

 

@ Tiger; yeah, I go recharge too, that way I have the option for heavier weapons more open + just it causing a stagger as is, is great enough for me so far. ... Another reason I like it maxed is because it's my main power since I try not to go to crazy with grenade classes (by not going crazy, I mean by trying not to use any clip packs if possible. Though if an objective wave calls for it or me ending up solo for a wave, then I may or will go crazy, of course. But all in all, I prefer clip packs for emergency just like my Rockets).

[GordianKnot42]

I play him more like a soldier:

http://kalence.drupa...25!!..O5!3FGABG

KroSent is better at melee because you don't have to purge anything. Tech Armor. This guy works as a Fire Explosion machine (so you don't need the Power Synergy from Fort as much).

[q5tyhj]

You can see in my original post that was exactly what I had planned but with an all melee Fitness and Adrenaline Module set up I think I'll need the extra 10% DR. Plus the only thing I plan on shooting are Praetorians and maybe Banshees that I can't lure onto a ramp.

 

EDIT: Do you take Melee or Health and Shields in Fitness?

 

Just my two cents- I love the KroSol, one of my standby kits. I always take one of the melee evo's- I know the KroSent and Kroguard make better melee kits, but he's still a Krogan, and I like to have that extra juice for my occasional melee. Usually take health/shields at 4, and pure rage at 6. I also skip rank 6 of Fortification to take the first 3 ranks of passives, just to get a tiny boost to weapon/power damage. Run any variety of weapons on him- obviously the Claymore, but also Venom, Graal, Wraith, and the Typhoon or Saber are also really fun on him too. Needless to say, using baby pyjak weapons like the acolyte or csmg on a Krogan is out of the question (no omniblade, no bang)- shotgun or heavy AR or gtfo. Sometimes if I'm using Venom I'll take the BPP as a secondary. 

[N7 Tigger]

Just my two cents- I love the KroSol, one of my standby kits. I always take one of the melee evo's- I know the KroSent and Kroguard make better melee kits, but he's still a Krogan, and I like to have that extra juice for my occasional melee. Usually take health/shields at 4, and pure rage at 6. I also skip rank 6 of Fortification to take the first 3 ranks of passives, just to get a tiny boost to weapon/power damage. Run any variety of weapons on him- obviously the Claymore, but also Venom, Graal, Wraith, and the Typhoon or Saber are also really fun on him too. Needless to say, using baby pyjak weapons like the acolyte or csmg on a Krogan is out of the question (no omniblade, no bang)- shotgun or heavy AR or gtfo. Sometimes if I'm using Venom I'll take the BPP as a secondary. 

 

Yeah, only a massive dickhole would use an Acolyte or CSMG on him. The King of Dickholes, you might say.

[Ribosome]

And thus the story of how Tool of the Empire came to be 

[megabeast37215]

Have you tried the builds yet?

[Shampoohorn]

BSN advice; ..

 

Irony: Lumping a loose assortment of internepts together as a monolithic entity with a single point of view... and then getting their point of view wrong. 

 

Too dumb for irony: Doing that when you're part of said entity.

 

Thanks for the entertainment. 

...

 

On topic, I'm a big fan of skipping the passives.  Carnage is fun.

[Mako]

Yeah, only a massive dickhole would use an Acolyte or CSMG on him. The King of Dickholes, you might say.

Or... *drumroll* The King Of Platinum!

[N7 Tigger]

Have you tried the builds yet?

 

Yeah, and I found without Biotic Charge to restore shields like the Vanguard the pure melee build was getting me killed too much and purging Fortification was a huge PITA. I settled on the following build:

 

http://kalence.drupa...13W53334!9F0.F2

 

Despite this I'm getting just as many melee kills, I'm just not dying now. While his movement speed is slow his storm speed is quite fast so I might even go full tank and use Cyclonics on him (or maybe a Power Amp). I haven't shown Fortification as active because I don't purge it and therefore don't get the melee bonus but, as well as 40% DR, it drops the shield recharge delay down to 2.80 seconds.

[cato potato]

BSN advice; Skip Carnage cause it's garbage. Grenade Capacity with max clip packs, with Grenade spamming, Incindiary cheese, Harrier, Reeger, and such other uber powered weapons + max consumables. Now your ready to hit that Bronze, Silver, or Gold lobby and troll you heart out.

 

Keep earning that reputation, Sinful.

[megabeast37215]

I like your build Tigger.. I've always thought the Fortification purge design was convoluted and stupid.

[Terminator Force]

Irony: Lumping a loose assortment of internepts together as a monolithic entity with a single point of view... and then getting their point of view wrong. 

 

Too dumb for irony: Doing that when you're part of said entity.

 

Thanks for the entertainment. 

...

 

On topic, I'm a big fan of skipping the passives.  Carnage is fun.

 

Hey, that's exactly what came to mind from browsing the forums.  Mostly the old one.  Since I came back after a small break in ME3mp gaming, I've noticed the old forum has been shut down for a month. And since then I haven't really been reading that much on the new forum as on the old one. More ME3mp gaming and less chit chat, you could say.

 

But yeah, folks hating Carnage sticks in my head like crazy. So please ignore what I said if it offends.

 

 

 

 

 

But wait... Carnage can't be glitched like Incinerate power, so how can it be that BSN still likes it? I'm so confused? 

[Terminator Force]

Keep earning that reputation, Sinful.

 

If I have a reputation, then that's great. Means I'll be remembered.

 

 

 

EDIT - anyone know what a 5x6 fire explosion dmg is VS a 6x6?

[cato potato]

If I have a reputation, then that's great. Means I'll be remembered.

 

 

 

EDIT - anyone know what a 5x6 fire explosion dmg is VS a 6x6?

 

Having a reputation doesn't mean you'll be remembered. It just means a lot of people will assume any new post of yours consists entirely of your usual patronising drivel.

[MPApr2012]

After reading this thread yesterday, just had to give a 66606 build a go... Well, the Collectors on Hydra and London had their day. Friend of mine laughing while working on their gold revives medals. it got a bit better once I remembered to prime Fortification. I did find the rate of the explosions generated a bit... underwhelming even with incendiary ammo... Is this to be expected?

 

Also, the Adrenaline Mode... I think i'm missing the point here, what's its relevance to this build? I played him as a CQC/Melee char and thought that Cycloncis would help just a tad to melee way out of the Collectors mooks rush for instance

[Ribosome]

But wait... Carnage can't be glitched like Incinerate power, so how can it be that BSN still likes it? I'm so confused? 

 

[Terminator Force]

 

Hey, that's me playing with a full lobby of BSNers!!!

[Ribosome]

cute 

[q5tyhj]

Yeah, only a massive dickhole would use an Acolyte or CSMG on him. The King of Dickholes, you might say.

 

[Terminator Force]

@ Yui; that avatar said that word so well.

[INFINITY650]

Put your purses down and hit stuff!

Max out health for rage mode, since you get the regen.

Set up for purge and melee damage bonus

NO carnage

 

Use a Crusader with the blade (of course)

Melee amp (now you have a reason to use them besides the puggernaut)

Dis or inc whichever.

Shield power cells (I'm sure you have lots of them also) this helps bring your already good amount of shields back up quicker.

Strong hold package, to help with shield regen and give you a little extra.

 

Learn to hit at a run, which can be tricky sometimes.

Purge at the begining of the round and by the time the bonus is over you should have your 2 kills, go for some mooks to get them quick. REMEMBER TO TURN IT BACK ON!

The health regen plus the shield regen make him very tanky.

If you don't have the crusader then the regar is really good. 

Chuck nades if you get into a unexpected spawn or a bunch of phantoms.

 

Learn to play the ramps.

 

If things get bad, back up and with the crusader you have the range to do damage.

 

Most fun krogan, and most challenging. 

 

Gold no problem, even against collectors I can still top the board with this set up. Try it, you might like it.

[didacuscarr]

Skip passives, equip shotgun, Falcon or Striker with omni blade.

[path0geN7]

I used to skip Carnage, but I tried a 56663 build today, and holy cow, the instant FEs are glorious

But why are people saying his passives are bad? +25% weapon damage is pretty standard on many characters, right?

Also, if I detonate my Inferno Grenades with a Carnage, does this end the DoT effect of the Inferno Nade?