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Captain Bonecold

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I don't want the option to be a blood mage. Since blood magic turns every mage who use it evil. No blood magic please.



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I'm not quite sure about your reasoning, and it is going to start a big argument, but I would also rather not see a blood magic specialization.


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well guess what.... your wish was granted.

It's already been confirmed that Blood Magic is not a specialization in Inquisition.. whether or not it'll appear in some way as a separate skill tree thats not a spec, who knows..



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I don't want the option to be a blood mage. Since blood magic turns every mage who use it evil. No blood magic please.

 

While you might not want to be a blood mage, someone else might.  No reason the option needs to be absent - you just don't have to choose it.  ;)

 

That being said, there won't be a blood mage specialization in Inquisition, anyway.  So this is a moot discussion, unless you're talking about future titles.


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You obviously don't keep up with the news lol.
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well, guess what! there is no such option in DA:I!

 

some of us actually really looked forward to that specialisation, and the news about it gone made us burn apple pie on purpose, eat whole bar of bitter chocolate for the first time in our lives or cry in the shower whilst singing what we all want by gang of four.


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Never played a blood mage in any of the games myself, it just felt wrong to do so while reading all about it, i just couldnt justify using it in any play through, even if i was being a utter bar steward i still couldnt find a justification for using it in the story.

 

Im glad it aint a option anymore but also sad for those that loved playing the spec, nothing worse than having your fav spec/class took away



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I believe it was said at PAX last year that blood magic will have real consequences in this game.  No more "blood magic is bad! *slices wrist open*"



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This is a pretty common problem, you see it in various romance threads and now here.  The 'I don't want to play this way, therefore nobody should be allowed to' attitude.  In this case, it does appear that blood magic is getting a pretty big change/retcon, from what it used to be, which was 'some people think it's evil and some don't', basically it was a matter of opinion and perspective, to a flat out 'blood magic is evil, and the inquisitor isn't allowed to be evil and thus isn't allowed to be a blood mage'.  I liked blood magic, I liked the way it was, where you could see it as evil, or simply as another school of magic, a more dangerous one but entirely controllable if you knew what you were doing.  It seems they're changing it, for the worse in my opinion, to something that is flat out bad and something we aren't allowed to do anymore, it's quite the shame.  Certainly it was fun in the first two games, and there were 'good' blood mages in both, along with of course plenty of bad.  I wish they hadn't made this change, and they'd let us keep that fun specialization.  Oh well :)


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I also liked Blood magic, I didn't always use it and sometimes rolled characters who hated it with the fire filled passion of a thousand suns. But one thing I really did like about it was that it was (from my viewpoint at least) not inherently evil. It was easy to misuse but not evil in and of itself. 


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So you don't want to play as a blood mage. Fine.

But why should that stop other people from having the option to play as a blood mage?


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This is a pretty common problem, you see it in various romance threads and now here.  The 'I don't want to play this way, therefore nobody should be allowed to' attitude.


I think there's a lot more to it than that - and it has to do with a desire for specializations to mean more than they have in previous games.

The wall of story / gameplay separation was pretty thick in DA2. The revolutionary pro-mage Anders hated blood magic, and constantly berated Merrill for it - yet Hawke could be a blood mage and Anders never said a word about it. Cullen even delivered this little gem: "Mages aren't people like you and I" to a mage Hawke. I found it very immersion-breaking.

Mages in general are subjected to a lot of fear and mistrust in Thedas; blood mages exponentially so. It never made a whole lot of sense to me that the PC could be a blood mage with no recognition or consequences arising from it. FWIW, I believe they did away with Spirit Healer for a similar sort of reason - because they summon spirits from the fade to assist with healing, and that sort of thing is pretty controversial.

In any case, you'll have some interesting new specializations from which to choose.
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I don't hate the spells. If you combine blood mage with spirtial healer then go for the passive.

 

I know why most mages in dragon age two speialize in blood magic. It easier to use. And is the only pure strongest speialization. Force doesn't do much damage. If they were to bring it back blood magic. I don't want it in the game starting out. Would love for them to add in DLC of speializations. 



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mostly a warrior in both installments, but I'd always utilize blood magic once informed about its strategic applications.

in the first game, the aoe/cc is ridiculous.

in the second game, the lack of viable mana recovery methods really enhance the mage's burst.

<<(this guy is the abusive type that purposely puts on the legion of the dead shield emblem in awakening and sets Anders' strategy to martyr>aid allies cycles in II)

I hesitate to ask your reasoning in objecting blood magic's very existence as an option because your basis may very well elicit an IDGF response...at best.

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Plot-wise, the head inquisitor obviously has a very strong reason to not be known as a blood mage, but hey, fortresses are often befallen from within.


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I don't want the option to be a blood mage. Since blood magic turns every mage who use it evil. No blood magic please.

 

Hey:

 

How do you reason that it turns people evil? - After all: Hawke's Father (who was not evil - far from it) used it (for example), the phylacteries the templars use are blood magic (!) and they are made by circle mages (!), too

 

So without diving in deeper (there are many more examples):

 

Your assumption is bogus! (total crap if and totally wrong, too if you ask me)

 

And yes:

 

I want the blood magic option :) (who wouldn't, if he sees templars as something to be afraid of?)

 

greetings LAX


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There will be no blood magic....? 

-holds back tears- My dreams of a psychotic blood mage Inquisitor has been crushed. 


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As far as I know blood magic won't be in DAI personally I could never get into it even when I tried to roll a blood mage but that doesn't mean I think that it should be cut from the game and its a little silly that someone wants something cut from the game because they don't want to use it especially if they don't have to use it. That said with all the stigma they put on blood magic in the DA universe it would be nice if story and gameplay could mesh a little bit better in that area like people noticing your a blood mage but that could hinder a lot of people in their games so in that regards I get why blood magic was cut cause they really couldn't do the lore justice in the gameplay at least I assume thats why blood magic was cut, though the necromancer specialization may have something close to blood magic in it so maybe the people that want to be a blood mage can get some satisfaction from playing as a necromancer :)


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made us burn apple pie on purpose

YOU MONSTER!



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YOU MONSTER!

Spoiler



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I'm not a fan of blood magic either, but I'm also not into taking away an option just because I don't like it. If the developers decide to include or not include something for development reasons, that I'm fine with. I get the feeling blood magic isn't a specialization because it causes too many inconsistencies story-wise.


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Oh!  I just had to use it to open this portal!  It's not really dangerous.  I know what I'm doing, I am not really summoning a demon, more like just summoning a demon friend!  Oh wait, there I go babbling again.



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and i was so looking forward to pulling a dark willow.

 



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Lol because you dont like blood magic, that means no one should be able to be a blood mage? How about this idea, you dont pick the option?

 

Even though the ability isnt a specialization that doesnt mean it isnt available in some for, to the player



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This is a pretty common problem, you see it in various romance threads and now here.  The 'I don't want to play this way, therefore nobody should be allowed to' attitude.  In this case, it does appear that blood magic is getting a pretty big change/retcon, from what it used to be, which was 'some people think it's evil and some don't', basically it was a matter of opinion and perspective, to a flat out 'blood magic is evil, and the inquisitor isn't allowed to be evil and thus isn't allowed to be a blood mage'.  I liked blood magic, I liked the way it was, where you could see it as evil, or simply as another school of magic, a more dangerous one but entirely controllable if you knew what you were doing.  It seems they're changing it, for the worse in my opinion, to something that is flat out bad and something we aren't allowed to do anymore, it's quite the shame.  Certainly it was fun in the first two games, and there were 'good' blood mages in both, along with of course plenty of bad.  I wish they hadn't made this change, and they'd let us keep that fun specialization.  Oh well :)

 

This is what Cameron Lee had to say on the matter:

 

 

Blood magic is an interesting one. Pure blood magic in the lore of the game is really supposed to be a very evil power. In previous games it wasn't really perceived to be that way. We talked about it being that way in the lore, we'd talk about crazy mages who went down the blood magic route and how that would have nasty consequences. So in Inquisition if we can't bring that across, that consequence across then we won't do it. We're looking at a couple of different options that still give that quasi-evil kind of fantasy element without trying to go into the nitty gritty of blood magic conflicting with other elements, but we haven't landed on which one's going to be there.

So we recognise the problem and we're very cognisant of the fact that we may not be able to do blood magic, but we would certainly replace it with something pretty bad arse. I've seen some concepts of what that could be... I personally play evil people in games, and I've always been a blood mage, and I'd be quite happy to play these ones as well. Look ultimately the Inquisition is something that stands apart from the Chantry, so it's not like you as a player are beholden to them or beholden to being always good--you can be whatever you want to be. And if I want to be this bad arse necromancer kind of guy who fiddles with the spirit world I'm going to do it, because ultimately I'm going to do what has to be done to face this threat of the massive breach in the sky that threatens to swallow the world but also the threat of who is the puppet master behind that and all the other events that are taking place in the world at this time.

You certainly see a lot of different factions who would be able to step up and face this threat but are in a position of weakness for a number of different reasons. So someone is clearly behind all this, and that person is our main enemy in the game, and we have to do what we have to do. That's the loophole of the Inquisition, that they have the freedom to do what has to be done.



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NOOOO!!!!! I wanted to play a qunari blood mage.... just because that would be awesome