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Is the Illusive Man an Indoctrinated Cyborg?


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thegreateski

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You have those eyes too if you play a Renegade.



They are synthetic eyes.

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sbear3737

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This wouldn't make sense at all, we know TIM and Cerberus fought to obtain Shep's body, most notably they fought the shadow broker for it, who the collectors enlisted for which, and the collectors are under the reapers. I really hope that TIM = reaper = plot twist threads will stop soon... there can't be that many people left who believes that nonsense... right?

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if you take into account u only see the red glow from shepards eyes when he is full renegade, but u dont get a blue when full paragon, then perhaps the focus on the eye glow can signify a hint towards being bad or indoctinated, but at the very least it does mean cybernetic enhancements

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Actually, he's a prothean. Non-indoctrinated, of course.

Modifié par vhatever, 11 avril 2010 - 11:04 .


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Simply put, you can't have a simpleton as a leader of such an organization like Cerberus. The ME2 plot simply asks for a very specific cerberus leader. I don't think he has any connections with reapers. But he is supposed to have some mysteries behind him.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

It wouldn't make sense for the Illusive Man to save Shepard in the first place, if he was. Then he sets him loose on the Collector's, agents of the Reapers.


maybe its all a test maybe the reapers are testing sheperd.

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The second Mass Effect book states that the Illusive Man had cybernetic implants added to his eyes/head, and a biotic implant to his frontal lobe.

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thegreateski wrote...

You have those eyes too if you play a Renegade.

They are synthetic eyes.


That.

Saren's eyes glow blue but I do not think he has the three dots.

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Crysis I wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

It wouldn't make sense for the Illusive Man to save Shepard in the first place, if he was. Then he sets him loose on the Collector's, agents of the Reapers.


maybe its all a test maybe the reapers are testing sheperd.



"...what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
— The Principal, Billy Madison

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NAh, they did the eyes like that to make him look mysterious, i saw that in some viddoc.

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nah, he does not work for the reapers,he only may have some cybernetic enhancements like Shepard when they revive him...



...those are synthetic eyes...

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Yes, it makes perfect sense. Resurrect your biggest enemy so you can trick him to capture/destroy a reaper manufacturing base in the center of the galaxy which is already under your own control.

Brilliant!

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 11 avril 2010 - 05:14 .


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lol...yeah its the master plan of the century

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Soruyao wrote...

It doesn't make sense for the reapers to revive their greatest enemy and then tell that enemy to destroy their own base.

UNLESS. There's a friendly reaper who doesn't agree with the other reaper's plans. This benevolent reaper wants to help shepard fight back the other reapers, but can't confront them directly due to numbers. That explains how we would fight back the reapers in ME3, because we will be given extra technology by the reaper to help us fight.

Heck, I'm calling it now, your ship in ME3 will be a friendly reaper. Your spaceship will be the illusive man.



yes I got the exact same idea you read my mind ...IT WOULD BE AWESOME having a very bad ass reaper.

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Isn't your ship already a friendly Reaper?



EDI mentions that she is part Reaper and she is now fully embodied inside the Normandy SR2.

Add to that the Thanix Cannon and you have your own little Reaper.

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Being that its the future, him having modified eyes would make sense. I saw a picture of him shooting a turian. Maybe he got attacked and blocked and they had to be replaced.




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He is something because in me2 he stated "You and every other human are as good as dead" if Shepard didnt stop the collectors. And the eyes.

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TIM has a synthetic frontal lobe? Now I know why he fears the reapers and is so willing to do whatever it takes to destroy them. That synthetic lobe may make him easy o indoctrinate.

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I doubt it. the LotSB archives on the Illusive Man detail his sexual partners, from one week. I'm sure one of those 7-8 women (Can't remember how many there were) would find out if he was a real human male or not...

*cough*

On the other hand, extensive implants are not a strange thing in the ME universe.

Modifié par Zoheb, 22 décembre 2010 - 06:53 .


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Just because he is indoctrinated does not mean he'd have a metallic wang. The Council didn't realize Saren was indoctrinated, let alone all his crazy implants...but he was. -Shrugs- It wouldn't surprise me at all to find TIM to be collaborating with the Reapers in ME 3.

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TIM must know something the rest of the galaxy doesn't, he always seems to be one step ahead. One theory is that he is of the species which created the reapers in the first place, but not a reaper himself.

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He is no reaper slave, he is a Duncan Idaho ghola with Tleilaxu eyes. Lol

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Tilarta wrote...

 While I was watching the video about the Art of Mass Effect 2, they showed a number of concept pictures of the Illusive Man.

And something occurred to me while I was looking at these pictures.


The Illusive Man has eyes like Saren when he was "modified" by Sovereign.


That leads me to wonder if Sovereign had a Plan B.

If he learned about Cerberus prior to his defeat, what if he captured the Illusive Man, then converted him into a Indoctrinated Cyborg, then sent him back with nobody knowing anything had changed.

This way, if all else failed, the Reapers could use Cerberus to return from Dark Space.


That would be an interesting plot twist......

It would be an awesome plot twist! You save the Collector base to hepp humanity but that is when TIM's programming starts working and he turns on you........Or destroy it and his conditioning kicks in and he deceives Cerberus into believing that you have a Reaper agent all along. And they turn against you

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vv238 wrote...

TIM must know something the rest of the galaxy doesn't, he always seems to be one step ahead. One theory is that he is of the species which created the reapers in the first place, but not a reaper himself.

Or a man who made a deal long ago with a Reaper and thinks he escaped his part in it by outsmarting the Reapers.

Modifié par Fancando, 11 janvier 2011 - 10:45 .