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[hostaman]

Okay! Before you batter me and deep fry me, this is partly a response to the "collectors are best" thread, but also as I think there must be at least one other player who enjoys Cerberus?

 

1. The Atlas is the easiest Boss unit in the game. No protection bubble or OP pets, the slow lumbering giants can be taken out by almost anything.  They also telegraph missile firing with a very obvious animation. 
2. Engineer Turrets ARE a PUG killer, but only if you fail to prioritize them. Always take out turrets first.  They're tough, because they're supposed to be. 
3. Dragoons are easy!    Some kits don't work well for taking out Dragoons, e.g. those without a dodge. So don't play these kits against Cerberus.  Infils work well (of course), Adepts, Vanguards, but anything will work well if you take them from distance.
4. Phantoms are really hard!  They're supposed to be!!  But there are so many satisfying ways to take them out - Stasis, BC, SS, Wall hack and just good old high DPS.  Or just play a Juggy and electrocute them.

I got my first Gold extraction with Cerberus. When I'm hosting I pick either Cerberus or Geth. I have never chosen to play Reapers or Collectors.

 

Sits back and waits for torrent of abuse!   

[Deerber]

Agreed.

Melons trump everything else.

[GordianKnot42]

I admit, I am relieved when Cerb comes up, second only to Reaps.

[megabeast37215]

You're high. They're worse than Geth.

[Deerber]

You're high. They're worse than Geth.

 

No U

[Mako]

Okay! Before you batter me and deep fry me, this is partly a response to the "collectors are best" thread, but also as I think there must be at least one other player who enjoys Cerberus?

 

Dragoons are easy!    Some kits don't work well for taking out Dragoons, e.g. those without a dodge. So don't play these kits against Cerberus.

Phantoms are really hard!  They're supposed to be!!  But there are so many satisfying ways to take them out - Stasis, BC, SS, Wall hack and just good old high DPS.  Or just play a Juggy and electrocute them.

No.

[didacuscarr]

No, **** atlas!

[megabeast37215]

No U

Atlases cheat worse than Primes, especially with their rockets. Atlases also cheat around RHA much more.
On host Phantoms cheat worse than Hunters
Dragoons and Bombers are a wash
Engineer Turrets and Rocket Troopers are equally dirty, but the turrets are harder to kill
Assault Troopers = Geth Troopers

Pyros and Centurions/Guardians are a joke, but the smoke grenades are far more obnoxious.

F**k Cerberus..

[Awakened_Pyjak]

You should throw yourself out the airlock.

[Loufi]

lol... I was sure a thread like that will be created. Geth and Reapers left...

 

On topic, I like Cerberus too, especially since Dragoons have been added (less Stasis cheese). Their units are varied and have unique abilities, there is a mix between ennemies who rush on you and others who take cover and play strategically, etc. It's an awesome faction IMO.     

[TheNightSlasher]

1. So, atlas' rockets have a clear animation? You know what else has a distinct animation - scions and crabs. And scion shots are easier to dodge. Crab missiles are slower in speed and therefore, you can get to the near-by cover in time. And crab lazors don't home in on you after you make a 90 degree turn.

 

2. You say turrets and phantoms are hard. You know what else is genuinely hard? Collectors. But collectors don't have insane 90% DR and their mooks are not armored, unlike turrets and dragoons. Which means powers like stasis, BC, SS, wall hack which work well vs. phantoms work EVEN BETTER vs. collectors.

 

3. So, you want me to play only dodge-able characters vs. cerberus. How can a faction that forces you to play in a certain way be the 'best' faction?

 

4. See 2.

 

Cerberus are full of BS. The only two redeeming features of cerberus are quick games (very easy to deplete wave budget) and nice melon heads, as Deerber said. Everything else is utter BS.

 

Collectors are hard, yes. But they do have much less BS, and thus, they are the best faction.

[Dalakaar]

Okay!

Agreed.
 

You're high.

No U

No.

No

F**k Cerberus.

lol

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

No.

[Cyonan]

Dragoons should have been something different rather than an anti-camping cover buster. Their tactics belong more on the Reaper faction than on Cerberus.

 

Also, the argument of "Just don't play things they're weak against and they're easy!" is a fairly terrible argument. It's like saying the Geth are the easiest faction in the game, just don't play anything except Kroguard with a Reegar Carbine.

 

Besides, since when I do play I play unknown enemy that means if I only ever pick characters that don't have a weakness then I'll only ever get to play about half a dozen kits.

[megabeast37215]

Cyonan and NightSlasher speak the truth as usual.

[Ribosome]

Oh, faction wars. 

 

Aren't we all supposed to be working together to defeat them? They're trying to divide us! 

[smeckie]

[SlimJim0725]

Cerberus went from my favorite to least favorite faction. Dragoons just annoy me, I host like 75% of my games meaning I am forced to bring anti-Phantom weapon with me if I want to survive at all on my own, and the Combat Engineers popping out turrets left and right on waves 6-7 being able to close off half a map while being chased by Phantom/Goon combo is just infuriating for me.

 

I go (favorite first) Collectors>Reapers>Geth>Cerberus personally. Basically that is based on their annoying unit level to me personally, the only unit in Collectors that annoys me are Scions.

 

Also, the opinion of preset lobby scrubs don't matter.           (joke for the abuse, I am not serious by any means as people are entitled to their own opinions)

[Argent Xero]

You're high. They're worse than Geth.

I agree.

There is a significant spike in difficulty vs Cerberus when you don't use common builds and weapons all of the time.

Basically, if you're not using an "OP" set up, you will be having a rough time vs Cerberus moreso than with any other faction.

[Malanek]

Cerberus are a nightmare when its laggy. I hate preset lobbies against cerberus, usually picked by someone who has poor weapons because they can actually kill stuff and the first waves are easy. But then you get in, start rubber banding about, and knowing that come wave 4 it is about to turn to hell. I also hate smoke, just an irritating ability.

[Argent Xero]

Cerberus went from my favorite to least favorite faction. Dragoons just annoy me, I host like 75% of my games meaning I am forced to bring anti-Phantom weapon with me if I want to survive at all on my own, and the Combat Engineers popping out turrets left and right on waves 6-7 being able to close off half a map while being chased by Phantom/Goon combo is just infuriating for me.

I go (favorite first) Collectors>Reapers>Geth>Cerberus personally. Basically that is based on their annoying unit level to me personally, the only unit in Collectors that annoys me are Scions.

Also, the opinion of preset lobby scrubs don't matter. (joke for the abuse, I am not serious by any means as people are entitled to their own opinions)

Reapers is 2nd?

My favorite would be Geth>collectors>reapers>cerberus.

the last 3 factions annoy me. Geth don't for some reason, on Gold at least.

[hostaman]

I only have myself to blame. I knew what I was doing when I created this thread.

 

Maybe I AM high!  

 

I'm not "telling" you to play a character with dodge, but obviously that can make Dragoons easier. Or as I said you can take them out at distance.

 

Or do it any way you like!  I prefer Shadow SS, single strike (which is also a fun way to take out Phantoms).  My point is that Dragoons are easy. I'll admit that 2 dragoons and 2 phantoms can be tricky - but that's what the "run away" button is for 

[SlimJim0725]

Reapers is 2nd?

My favorite would be Geth>collectors>reapers>cerberus.

 

Reapers are a joke most of the time. Only Ravagers annoy me from them cause I feel like they always target me. Banshees are pretty predictable, the only time they are annoying is when they alternate with one tossing warp while the other is jumping at me making it harder to dodge or if they jump through walls a ton.

 

Primes annoy the hell out of me more than any unit in the game, then the sound of six rockets in 3 seconds from 2 Rocket Troopers makes me want to rage missile them even if they don't hit me. Aside from that, I don't mind Geth as much as most, but Primes especially hurt my enjoyment of that faction.

[megabeast37215]

Geth Gold is a cakewalk compared to Cerberus Gold.. but Geth Platinum is just awful.

[Argent Xero]

Reapers are a joke most of the time. Only Ravagers annoy me from them cause I feel like they always target me. Banshees are pretty predictable, the only time they are annoying is when they alternate with one tossing warp while the other is jumping at me making it harder to dodge or if they jump through walls a ton.
 
Primes annoy the hell out of me more than any unit in the game, then the sound of six rockets in 3 seconds from 2 Rocket Troopers makes me want to rage missile them even if they don't hit me. Aside from that, I don't mind Geth as much as most, but Primes especially hurt my enjoyment of that faction.

I like Geth.



Geth are fun.