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#151
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i got mine for a ps4, i don't like spending all that money always upgrading a pc for such and such game.

That's no longer necessary. The current consoles run on the same CPU architecture as PCs, so you won't see as many graphical improvements in the coming years as you did with the last-gen consoles. This PC is only slightly more expensive than the PS4 (and cheaper than the Xbox One), but it's more powerful than any console: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vdhTzy



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I was getting the console anyway for a few future games, ended up getting it cheap a weak ago, so I imagine I'll get Dragon Age for the PS4 since I can't afford a strong PC within the nearest future.



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I don't think the Entry Barrier is the biggest hurdle, I think the biggest hurdle is maintenance issues. Not sure there's any way around it to be honest, outside of standardizing the hardware and software (Which is what consoles do). While it's definitely getting better, are there really any PC gamers that don't harbor a slight amount of doubt whether or not a particular title will run on their PC? And I don't mean Min-Spec related stuff, software or hardware incompatibility issues that are rare, but eminently frustrating when you do encounter them.

 

Maybe I think that just because I have a metric ton of experience with personal PC issues, just about every issue a PC can have with gaming I've had to fix, which puts my frame of reference well outside "Average Joe Gamer" I suppose.

 

I think Totalbiscuit's channel is a good one to look at to see the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Vsync breaking games, having to alter config files to get things working right.

 

I don't think anyone in their right mind can successfully argue PC is the objectively inferior platform, but to some people, peace of mind is worth playing on a less-than-optimal platform. The Insurance Industry wouldn't exist if that wasn't a common mentality.

 

The issues are usually minor or non-existent. For example:

 

As much as the community complained about the horrible port that was dark souls 2... it was still the better version of the game. PC gamers complained because no effort was made to make it any better than the console version - it was just that more powerful PC hardware didn't have the terrible frame rate issues the console version had, but it was still running at 720p, and a locked frame rate and resolution are unheard of on PC.

 

Even games with issue son PC are still better than the console version.



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For me it's not about money or amount of available game titles. It's about quality of gaming experience. I was PC player for a long time and my love for rpg games began with Baldur's Gate. Yet after buying my first console I would never come back to PC when it comes to games.
 
Yes playing on PC may be overall cheaper but when it comes to immersion then nothing is better than big TV and comfortable gamepad. It is possible to connect PC to TV but it's not the same (for a lot of reasons). And I have enough of keyboard and mouse (and back pain) in my work. It is possible to connect gamepad to PC but again, it is not the same (most of all only some games can use gamepad on PC, previous Bioware games could not).
 
Anyway there is a lot of reasons why I am choosing console over PC but it is all subjective. Some players like to constantly modify their hardware and software so they choose PC. There is no better gaming system, everybody plays as he/she likes. 

 

 

Oh yeah, I agree, dat console "cinematic" frame rate and blurry resolution... definitive more immerse...



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As usual, can't have a thread about consoles without PC "Master Race" chest thumping.  :rolleyes:

 

Anyway, already have a PS4 so I'll definitely be getting it there. May also grab the PC version later when I get a new laptop.


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Oh yeah, I agree, dat console "cinematic" frame rate and blurry resolution... definitive more immerse...

 

Never had any problems with frame rate and blurry resolution on console (except Fable 3). Yes, powerful PC can generate better graphics than console. And that doesn't change anything. Graphics is an important aspect of games but not the most important. 
 
Evolution of graphics during console life cycle and between console generations is enough for me. Console is simply more immersive and comfortable gaming system (for me).
 
Yet it seems that we have different perspective on what "immersion" means.

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What? Man, I wish $1.20 could buy me lunch. That's a water bottle where I live. I'd be starving!


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I have yet to make the jump to "next gen" and I won't upgrade my PC before it's dead so I guess I'll buy the game on whatever system I have at the moment.



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This Gen, PS4 will likely play DAI better then Xbox One, considering Xbox One Hardware isnt up to snuff and is having a hell of a time running games at 1080p. That being said, PS4 makes DAI better then Xbox one by virtue of being able to play DAI anywhere you have a internet connection with Remote play. 

 

Its too bad Xbox one cant do something similar, for people who cant sit around the house all day, Remote play is godsent.



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I'm switching back to Sony. I got a lot of hours out of my Xbox 360 and I'll miss it, but the PS4 is a better machine. And I will be getting one specifically for Dragon Age Inquisition. 

 

I like to let them iron out all the kinks in new generation consoles before I go all in. 


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Still hoping for a DA:I PS4 bundle thing. No answer on the tweeters, but honestly I don't really use it.



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I will get all multiplatform titles on my XBO as I have access to the US xbl store with it despite being in Europe, saves me about 1/3th thanks to the strong euro and is surprisingly legal as well. Coincidentally I have a Vita but don't give a **** about remote play, I got it to play handheld games not console games over wi-fi, I also have a Surface Pro 2 to play games on the go though.

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already got one so.....

but i think it will be the first game that will really make my ps4 useful along destiny (thought i feel destiny won't be that good)



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The issues are usually minor or non-existent. For example:

 

As much as the community complained about the horrible port that was dark souls 2... it was still the better version of the game. PC gamers complained because no effort was made to make it any better than the console version - it was just that more powerful PC hardware didn't have the terrible frame rate issues the console version had, but it was still running at 720p, and a locked frame rate and resolution are unheard of on PC.

 

Even games with issue son PC are still better than the console version.

 

Sorry, I just don't want to go to the PCgaming wiki every time I buy a new game and trial-and-error my way through config files until I get a game working. If that makes me a plebeian or a console fanboy, so be it. I don't have to learn a new language every time I buy a new book, I don't have to take a course on music appreciation for every song I want to listen to, and I don't need a lesson in cinematography for every trip to the theater.

 



already got one so.....

but i think it will be the first game that will really make my ps4 useful along destiny (thought i feel destiny won't be that good)

 

Feedback from the Alpha, 30FPS lock (And I do mean LOCK it never dropped below the 29.90's no matter what was happening on screen) notwithstanding, was pretty positive overall if it makes you feel better. The whole "Patrol" mode is something you really can't describe, it has to be experienced or at least seen in an organic setting (IE: Not edited) and it really impresses. Some of the patrol missions are a bit grindy though. Kill/collect quests that are typically mercifully short.

 

Overall, I'd say it's a better game than any Borderlands but, at least in the Alpha, doesn't have that strength of writing or character. It maybe takes itself a little too seriously I guess. If you ever played a Borderlands game and thought "I'd love this even more if it was played with a straight face 100% of the time", Destiny is probably your golden calf.


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That's no longer necessary. The current consoles run on the same CPU architecture as PCs, so you won't see as many graphical improvements in the coming years as you did with the last-gen consoles. This PC is only slightly more expensive than the PS4 (and cheaper than the Xbox One), but it's more powerful than any console: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vdhTzy

 

Saying this PC is much more powerfull needs to be verified.

 

Thats a great PC build but I think the memory in the PS4 and XBone is better:

 

Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory vs PS4 (8GB GDDR5) vs XBone (8GB DDR3) .. Albeit shared with the GPU.
 
Also I really would not comapre the CPU's since the consoles have up to 8 cores and the one your build has 4 cores, all be it faster cores. I dont think Frostbite 3 performance is scaled on CPU clock speed.


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I have yet to make jump to the next gen. I've been with the Playstation since the first one came out so I'll more than likely choose the PS4. Plus the controller is really nice.



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Sorry, I just don't want to go to the PCgaming wiki every time I buy a new game and trial-and-error my way through config files until I get a game working. If that makes me a plebeian or a console fanboy, so be it. I don't have to learn a new language every time I buy a new book, I don't have to take a course on music appreciation for every song I want to listen to, and I don't need a lesson in cinematography for every trip to the theater.

 

 

Not being interested in PC gaming might make you a bit close minded at worst, but definitely doesn't mean you are some sort of console fanboy.

 

Insinuating that every time you play a PC game you need to visit a Wiki in order to get the game to work, or that playing PC games is like learning cinematography every time you go to the movies? (Really???)

 

THAT makes you a console fanboy. And it also shows you are quite ignorant about modern PC gaming.

 

You're also missing out on  a LOT of amazing RPG's in the style of Dragon Age. This is the weird part. The vast majority of Console only gamers on this board, I'm willing to wager, would LOVE to play a game like Pillars of Eternity or Tides of Numenera, or Divinity: Original Sin, or Wasteland 2. All party based, deep, story driven RPG's. All PC exclusives.

 

Similarly, games like the recent Might and Magic X legacy, the gorgeous Banner Saga, the upcoming Legend Of Grimrock 2, The Blackguards series although different than a Draogn Age/BG style RPG, offer up some really amazing story driven, RPG goodness.

 

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. PC is the king of western RPG's, and I think a lot of console gamers would be well served by investing a little bit into a gaming PC and enjoying all of these games.

 

Something that some of them might end up shying away from because fanboys like you attempt to scare them away with incredibly inaccurate and hyperbolic statements like what you wrote above.

 

For console only gamers out there: Look up the games I mentioned. I dare you not to get excited about at least some of them. Don't listen to people like "Deflagratio", The PC has a LOT to offer that isn't available on consoles, and it's cheap to get into! Give it a shot sometime, I promise you won't regret it! And no, Sony won't come in and take your PS4 away because you've added PC gaming to your life. You CAN do both.

 

In fact, I'd say this gen PS4 + PC is the BEST system combination, for sure, offering some truly unique and interesting gaming experiences.



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Saying this PC is much more powerfull needs to be verified.

 

Thats a great PC build but I think the memory in the PS4 and XBone is better:

 

Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory vs PS4 (8GB GDDR5) vs XBone (8GB DDR3) .. Albeit shared with the GPU.
 
Also I really would not comapre the CPU's since the consoles have up to 8 cores and the one your build has 4 cores, all be it faster cores. I dont think Frostbite 3 performance is scaled on CPU clock speed.

 

 

ALL current game engines rely on core performance. And per core, that build is something like 2 times more powerful than a PS4's CPU. 

 

I do agree that that particular build is slightly less powerful overall than a PS4. Or rather less capable, don't know if powerful is the right word. But then again, look at that price!

 

The cool thing about PC gaming though is that in 2 years? For a reasonable price you'll be able to pick up something 3 times more powerful than a PS4 :)



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You're also missing out on  a LOT of amazing RPG's in the style of Dragon Age. This is the weird part. The vast majority of Console only gamers on this board, I'm willing to wager, would LOVE to play a game like Pillars of Eternity or Tides of Numenera, or Divinity: Original Sin, or Wasteland 2. All party based, deep, story driven RPG's. All PC exclusives.

 

Similarly, games like the recent Might and Magic X legacy, the gorgeous Banner Saga, the upcoming Legend Of Grimrock 2, The Blackguards series although different than a Draogn Age/BG style RPG, offer up some really amazing story driven, RPG goodness.

 

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. PC is the king of western RPG's, and I think a lot of console gamers would be well served by investing a little bit into a gaming PC and enjoying all of these games.

 

Something that some of them might end up shying away from because fanboys like you attempt to scare them away with incredibly inaccurate and hyperbolic statements like what you wrote above.

 

For console only gamers out there: Look up the games I mentioned. I dare you not to get excited about at least some of them. Don't listen to people like "Deflagratio", The PC has a LOT to offer that isn't available on consoles, and it's cheap to get into! Give it a shot sometime, I promise you won't regret it! And no, Sony won't come in and take your PS4 away because you've added PC gaming to your life. You CAN do both.

 

In fact, I'd say this gen PS4 + PC is the BEST system combination, for sure, offering some truly unique and interesting gaming experiences.

 

I'm planning to play some of games you mentioned especially Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera (it's like playing Baldur's Gate and Planescape Torment again but with fresh storyline). However I have PC only for exclusives like these two games (hopefully system requirements won't be too demanding).
 
If I have a choice then I always play on console. But it is always about games and great games can be found on both consoles and PC.


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Both are using a combination of 2D modelled and had touched backdrops with 3D characters which should be pretty easy on the system requirements :)  



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Nope, I'm holding out on both of the new consoles (and the Wii U is forever on the LOLNOPE) list until they have more exclusives I'm interested in. I have both a 360 and a PS3, and will eventually have both the XBone and PS4 but for now I'm sticking with Master Race gaming.



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I'll probably play it on Xbone at first, after I get a PS4 I might get it on that too, but ultimately I'd love to have a great PC instead for it.



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For console only gamers out there: Look up the games I mentioned. I dare you not to get excited about at least some of them. Don't listen to people like "Deflagratio", The PC has a LOT to offer that isn't available on consoles, and it's cheap to get into! Give it a shot sometime, I promise you won't regret it! And no, Sony won't come in and take your PS4 away because you've added PC gaming to your life. You CAN do both.

 

I do both, and I regret upgrading my PC. Compared to gaming on a couch with a 55" TV and surround sound, sitting in a chair with a smaller monitor using either KB&M (simply awful) or a a controller that either isn't a Playstation controller or using a PS controller with games that don't natively support it, doesn't stack up.

 

I can't hook up my PC to my living room because I live with a roommate.

 

The games you mentioned are not similar to Dragon Age insofar as they are isometric, a style of gameplay which I hate and have not used for Dragon Age.

 

As you can tell, there are many personal reasons someone may favor a console over a PC. Whether a PC is superior in a vacuum with all variables controlled is irrelevant, because these personal factors will always exist and vary from person to person. Telling people such as me that they should prefer gaming on PC is insulting and also useless.


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Please point out where in that post I said that you should prefer PC gaming. Maybe there are gremlins changing my posts behind my back...

 

I'm clearly stating that PC gaming has a lot to offer game library wise, titles that are likely to be interesting to people interested in DA:I.

 

The rest appears to stem from your fanboy imagination.



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I do both, and I regret upgrading my PC. Compared to gaming on a couch with a 55" TV and surround sound, sitting in a chair with a smaller monitor using either KB&M (simply awful) or a a controller that either isn't a Playstation controller or using a PS controller with games that don't natively support it, doesn't stack up.

 

I can't hook up my PC to my living room because I live with a roommate.

 

The games you mentioned are not similar to Dragon Age insofar as they are isometric, a style of gameplay which I hate and have not used for Dragon Age.

 

As you can tell, there are many personal reasons someone may favor a console over a PC. Whether a PC is superior in a vacuum with all variables controlled is irrelevant, because these personal factors will always exist and vary from person to person. Telling people such as me that they should prefer gaming on PC is insulting and also useless.

New games where controller support is possible all come with it nowadays many games even prioritize it, get a device with WiDi or Mircast and you won't have to hook it up. It's also not an argument being unable to hook it up when you can hook up a console to your TV. 

 

DS4 has native PC support, 360 controller even wireless. DS3 I belive works wireless as well.

 

I play on consoles myself but not because it's better but because I dislike tower PCs and that the consoles are automatic console lobbies for multiplayer