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Who's the best love interest for male shepard?
#76
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 02:04
#77
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 02:37
For me the best ones are Miranda and Kaidan. They are my 2 canon playthroughs.
But i actually love all MaleShep romance options:) Though Tali belongs with Garrus
And Steve with James (my headcanon, don't ruin it
).
Eh, no, I see Garrus as a type of Brother-Sister thing, my ideas for those characters are:
Garrus+Dr Michel or Citadel DLC Female Turian
MaleShep+Tali
James+ That one Asari that he liked in Paragon Lost (Didn't see it, but I read it so now it's in my head.)
Steve+ ... Well, someone in the future?
Apologies to your Headcanon
#78
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 02:38
I'm a pretty big fan of my Noone -> Chambers -> Traynor playthrough.
Huh, pretty interesting
I only recently learned you can romance Kelly in ME3 if you aren't romancing anyone at the time.
#79
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 11:43
Eh, no, I see Garrus as a type of Brother-Sister thing, my ideas for those characters are:
Garrus+Dr Michel or Citadel DLC Female Turian
MaleShep+Tali
James+ That one Asari that he liked in Paragon Lost (Didn't see it, but I read it so now it's in my head.)
Steve+ ... Well, someone in the future?
Apologies to your Headcanon
MaleShep + Miranda = alive, head of renewed Cerberus initiative that uses Reaper tech to bring humanity into a new golden age of galactic power.
Ashley = killed on Citadel (or at an alternate point)
Kaidan = killed on Virmire
Garrus = killed on Earth
Tali = killed on Earth (separate event)
Wrex = alive, on Tuchanka, rebuilding what's left of the Krogan. Prospects are grim.
Liara = alive, on her own, relinquishing the SB resources and going back to her solitary existence as a Prothean researcher.
Jacob = alive, working as a security contractor for renewed Cerberus initiative.
Mordin = killed on Tuchanka.
Jack = killed on Earth (with all her students)
Grunt = alive, on Tuchanka.
Samara = alive, returning to her solitary life as a Justicar in Asari space.
Thane = killed on the Citadel.
Legion = deactivated and deleted on Rannoch, permanently destroyed after Destroy ending.
Kasumi = alive, gone back to her solitary existence as a thief, with occasional contracts for renewed Cerberus.
Zaeed = alive, semi-retired on some colony with a beach, contracts with renewed Cerberus occasionally.
James = alive, returned to the alliance and continues military career, serves as functional liaison for renewed Cerberus and alliance.
EDI = destroyed
Javik = missing, assumed dead. Last seen amidst ruins of London during the Battle of Earth. Think Road Warrior ending for Javik.
Steve = killed on Earth
As I've said, I don't agree with or support the idea that everyone ends up happy or alive. I think it undercuts the narrative and makes it less interesting and mature. I especially don't support pairings among the characters so much. Too often it just becomes a game of pair the spares. I want a war epic in space, not a romance simulator.
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#80
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 02:08
Guest_StreetMagic_*
I think it undercuts the narrative and makes it less interesting and mature.
What narrative? The childish story where giant robots want to destroy the galaxy? I saw this in a couple of Godzilla sequels, I think. The one thing better about those is no one mistook it for serious drama.
Anyways, the pairings are all in good fun (just like most of the games... it's all in good fun).
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#81
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 02:52
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Obviously Miranda, they underused her in ME3(should have been a squadmate) but with the Citadel DLC its still a very nice romance
Liara and Tali are more like little sisters imho, but obviously some like the Shepard worshipping
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#82
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 03:36
What narrative? The childish story where giant robots want to destroy the galaxy? I saw this in a couple of Godzilla sequels, I think. The one thing better about those is no one mistook it for serious drama.
Anyways, the pairings are all in good fun (just like most of the games... it's all in good fun).
Yeah, when you boil the plot down to simple levels like that, it's always going to sound idiotic and childish.
Star Wars - Space wizards teach a farm boy to become a space wizard so he can defeat space N**is...In space!
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#83
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 03:40
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Yeah, when you boil the plot down to simple levels like that, it's always going to sound idiotic and childish.
Star Wars - Space wizards teach a farm boy to become a space wizard so he can defeat space N**is...In space!
Lucas is honest about it though.
There was a funny interview with Mark Hammil about this... where he was making fun of some RoTJ filming scene... and he kept bugging Lucas about some plot point or another and why it didn't make sense.
And then Lucas told him... "Mark..... these movies are for kids." And it calmed him down... And Hammil was trying to relay this story to tell other "adults" to chill out too. That, in the end, it was just for kids and they shouldn't take it so seriously.
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Anyways, I think Joker has the right attitude in how we should perceive Mass Effect. He's winking his eye to the player.. even with the annihilation of Thessia.
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#84
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 04:27
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
I've never read any of the comics, so I wouldn't know.
Its obvious Bioware favored ME1 characters over the ME2 characters. I'm surprised they didn't call ME3, ME1 Part 2
yep the ME1 favoritism is strong in ME3 and its annoying since the ME2 squad was a lot better (in my opinion)
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#85
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 04:30
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Lucas is honest about it though.
There was a funny interview with Mark Hammil about this... where he was making fun of some RoTJ filming scene... and he kept bugging Lucas about some plot point or another and why it didn't make sense.
And then Lucas told him... "Mark..... these movies are for kids." And it calmed him down... And Hammil was trying to relay this story to tell other "adults" to chill out too. That, in the end, it was just for kids and they shouldn't take it so seriously.
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Anyways, I think Joker has the right attitude in how we should perceive Mass Effect. He's winking his eye to the player.. even with the annihilation of Thessia.
You can perceive it like that, I (and many others) won't, thats why we had such a huge ending controversy, people obviously cared
The ME Trilogy's plot isn't creative or unique by any means but you are just reducing it into silly child story (its not) and making it sound like it shouldn't be taken seriously
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#86
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 05:28
What narrative? The childish story where giant robots want to destroy the galaxy? I saw this in a couple of Godzilla sequels, I think. The one thing better about those is no one mistook it for serious drama.
Anyways, the pairings are all in good fun (just like most of the games... it's all in good fun).
I think it can and should be serious drama. You're trying to appeal to the players and developers by stating that you're 'in on the joke'.
The ending tried to go for that, and you not seeing it that way doesn't mean that its any less so.
#87
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 06:10
Guest_StreetMagic_*
You can perceive it like that, I (and many others) won't, thats why we had such a huge ending controversy, people obviously cared
Well, I still care. I didn't say I disliked it. I like childish things from time to time.. it's fun. I have complaints too -- but it's usually when it fails at the "fun" part. Not so much the ending for me, but Priority Earth. That was empty and boring. Needs more explosions and characters.
As for the pairings, they're just there for comedy and "cuteness" sake. I suggest lightening up. I don't know why it bothers "God" anyways. He's a pretty big Miranda fan. She isn't "shipped" with anyone.
In his story, Garrus and Tali are killed.... and somehow that's better than being shipped? ![]()
#88
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 06:33
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Well, I still care. I didn't say I disliked it. I like childish things from time to time.. it's fun. I have complaints too -- but it's usually when it fails at the "fun" part. Not so much the ending for me, but Priority Earth. That was empty and boring. Needs more explosions and characters.
As for the pairings, they're just there for comedy and "cuteness" sake. I suggest lightening up.
lol but ME isn't childish you keep saying it but it doesn't make it true
Like @God said it can and it should be serious Drama go watch a Comedy if you just want "fun" and silly things
#89
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 06:50
Guest_StreetMagic_*
lol but ME isn't childish you keep saying it but it doesn't make it true
Like @God said it can and it should be serious Drama go watch a Comedy if you just want "fun" and silly things
It's got serious moments, but that's missing the forest for the trees. We're here to have fun in a shooter, acting like a galactic James Bond, bitchslapping everyone, tossing them out of buildings, and waging war against mutants and giant robots.
Go tell your loved ones/family about your hobby and see how seriously they take you.
Don't get me wrong though. I'm not a hater. I love it. ![]()
#90
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 06:59
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
It's got serious moments, but that's missing the forest for the trees. We're here to have fun in a shooter, acting like a galactic James Bond, bitchslapping everyone, tossing them out of buildings, and waging war against mutants and giant robots.
Go tell your loved ones/family about your hobby and see how seriously they take you.
Don't get me wrong though. I'm not a hater. I love it.
I can't agree with how you think about the ME Trilogy (for me its a serious Drama with fun moments) but if its fun for you that way, then ok I guess
And also my family and friends know of my hobby and if they don't like they can STFU
(But as far as I know they don't have any problems with it, some are also gamers actually)
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#91
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 07:10
Guest_StreetMagic_*
I can't agree with how you think about the ME Trilogy (for me its a serious Drama with fun moments) but if its fun for you that way, then ok I guess
And also my family and friends know of my hobby and if they don't like they can STFU
(But as far as I know they don't have any problems with it, some are also gamers actually)
Fair enough. We both enjoy it, so that's all that matters in the end.
Maybe "childish" isn't the right word. Maybe "juvenile" is better (or is that worse?
). I treat it with the same level of seriousness that I treat comic books... which I also love.
#92
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 02:43
It's got serious moments, but that's missing the forest for the trees. We're here to have fun in a shooter, acting like a galactic James Bond, bitchslapping everyone, tossing them out of buildings, and waging war against mutants and giant robots.
Go tell your loved ones/family about your hobby and see how seriously they take you.
Don't get me wrong though. I'm not a hater. I love it.
I really don't think that's the point of Mass Effect. I rather think you're being dismissive to the serious elements, and being outright ignorant of the idea that it can be 'serious' fiction.
We're definitely not here to have 'fun' in a shooter in the sense that you're describing. You're basically implying that fiction in general isn't meant to be taken seriously objectively, especially science fiction.
I'm getting you wrong. I'm a hater of what you like about the franchise. I think the campy, cutesy, and cheesy elements need to be toned down, if not outright eliminated.
#93
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 02:47
There was a funny interview with Mark Hammil about this... where he was making fun of some RoTJ filming scene... and he kept bugging Lucas about some plot point or another and why it didn't make sense.
And then Lucas told him... "Mark..... these movies are for kids." And it calmed him down... And Hammil was trying to relay this story to tell other "adults" to chill out too. That, in the end, it was just for kids and they shouldn't take it so seriously.
I stopped buying that 'for kids' bull**** when they showed people being decapitated, bisected (cut in half), dismembered, asphyxiated, graphically burned alive, and portraying outright extermination of people.
If that's 'for kids' then there's seriously something *****d up with your point of view. I'm calling it.
This is not for children.
#94
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 03:00
I stopped buying that 'for kids' bull**** when they showed people being decapitated, bisected (cut in half), dismembered, asphyxiated, graphically burned alive, and portraying outright extermination of people.
If that's 'for kids' then there's seriously something *****d up with your point of view. I'm calling it.
This is not for children.
Eh... gotta learn sometime.
Otherwise, alive=/= happy. I save everyone I can save, but I can guarantee you some, maybe even most of them aren't happy afterwards. For some, death might even be preferable. For the rest, at best it's more like "here's a whole bunch of new **** you have to deal with to keep your little pile of rubble somewhat intact, as you wonder if it's even worth it".
It gets a little better later. But there's always more to deal with.
#95
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 04:22
If that's 'for kids' then there's seriously something *****d up with your point of view. I'm calling it.
I don't know about you, but the first thing I'm doing for my son when he turns 8 years old is showing him a montage of Mortal Kombat fatalities.
#96
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 09:35
Guest_StreetMagic_*
I really don't think that's the point of Mass Effect. I rather think you're being dismissive to the serious elements, and being outright ignorant of the idea that it can be 'serious' fiction.
We're definitely not here to have 'fun' in a shooter in the sense that you're describing. You're basically implying that fiction in general isn't meant to be taken seriously objectively, especially science fiction.
I'm getting you wrong. I'm a hater of what you like about the franchise. I think the campy, cutesy, and cheesy elements need to be toned down, if not outright eliminated.
#97
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 01:13
I don't like ME2 that much. It's the weakest game in the series IMO. And I don't consider myself an uber-nerd
ME2 is harder for me to roleplay than both ME1 and ME3 because the protagonist is made up to act like some wannabe bada** in space. Some people love it and enjoy those cheesy one-liners - "I got better". For me, they were annoying, out of character and, frankly, dumb. Part of the reason why I like ME3 the most is because they took a step back from silliness that was ME2.
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#98
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 02:41
Eh, no, I see Garrus as a type of Brother-Sister thing, my ideas for those characters are:
Garrus+Dr Michel or Citadel DLC Female Turian
MaleShep+Tali
James+ That one Asari that he liked in Paragon Lost (Didn't see it, but I read it so now it's in my head.)
Steve+ ... Well, someone in the future?
Apologies to your Headcanon
no need for apologising:) You headcanon characters with whoever u want)
#99
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 03:03
Guest_StreetMagic_*
I don't like ME2 that much. It's the weakest game in the series IMO. And I don't consider myself an uber-nerd
ME2 is harder for me to roleplay than both ME1 and ME3 because the protagonist is made up to act like some wannabe bada** in space. Some people love it and enjoy those cheesy one-liners - "I got better". For me, they were annoying, out of character and, frankly, dumb. Part of the reason why I like ME3 the most is because they took a step back from silliness that was ME2.
I don't know how he's a wannabe badass. Anyone who blows that much **** up is a genuine badass.
That whole Thane intro was cool. That's my favorite of the Illium missions.
But at least you recognize what I mean... It was moving into cheesier territory. You just don't like it. Fair enough. ![]()
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#100
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 03:58
I don't like ME2 that much. It's the weakest game in the series IMO. And I don't consider myself an uber-nerd
ME2 is harder for me to roleplay than both ME1 and ME3 because the protagonist is made up to act like some wannabe bada** in space. Some people love it and enjoy those cheesy one-liners - "I got better". For me, they were annoying, out of character and, frankly, dumb. Part of the reason why I like ME3 the most is because they took a step back from silliness that was ME2.
I'll take ME2 and Citadel over ME3 any day. Give me action, cheese and one liners over whining about conventional victory and "art", no questions asked.
The feel of ME1 moving to ME2 was awesome. ME1 you're working within the system to assemble a team of irregulars to combat a threat. ME2 you're on the fringes, assembling an even bigger team of badasses to take out a threat. Even though we fought faceless mercs more than anything ME2 felt the most like I was on a space adventure with limitless potential. The Reaper plot by itself is nothing special at best and ME3 was a huge step backwards in making you feel like in the world.





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