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Paragon or Renegade? Which do you prefer & when used?


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Paragon is my natural state of mind so that's how I prefer to play. When I make such a character I don't pick renegade choices despite the temptation. It takes more strength to resist such urges than to give in and punch/shoot/berate someone, so I view my paragons as people of strong character and conviction. When I'm in this mode the scores are ME1(100/0), ME2(100/0), ME3(100/0) or as close as possible.

 

I have played a cold-blooded killer Shepard as an experiment, but I felt lonely/empty later on. By the end of ME3 the refuse option seemed the only viable choice (no respect for life so why try to preserve it?). Full renegade all three games, but shorter play sessions because I had to work at it and didn't feel good about what I was doing.



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Usually 80 - 20 ish in favour of Paragon. Too Renegade is just being a jerk but some people still have it coming or need a kick up the arse, so you need a bit of Renegade in there. The way ME2 tries to constrain you against a well-balanced Shepard is frustrating.

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My canon is 50/50. I wanted a disillusioned, cocky yet not human-centric Shepard. It was the closest to neutral I could get.

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I prefer pure reneagde. I don't like the goody-two-shoe paragon even though I've played paragon a couple of times just to see the difference. And depending on your playthrough, a paragon can do more damage than a renegade



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My cannon Shepard is a spacer/ruthless, a military hardliner that is driven by his hate and contempt for the enemy and that knows that you can only fight terror with terror.



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I prefer pure reneagde. I don't like the goody-two-shoe paragon even though I've played paragon a couple of times just to see the difference. And depending on your playthrough, a paragon can do more damage than a renegade

 

There are only a couple of exceptions to the paragon route throughout the trilogy where there's more damage done (I can only recall Balak at the moment), but for one-sided alignments, renegade easily inflicts the most with no advantage gained in the process.



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There are only a couple of exceptions to the paragon route throughout the trilogy where there's more damage done (I can only recall Balak at the moment), but for one-sided alignments, renegade easily inflicts the most with no advantage gained in the process.

Really. In a rare paragon playthrough, I had almost all squadmates dead, sabotaged the genophage and sided with the Geth



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 In ME1 & 2 I generally prefer the Paragon path since it typically offers some potential gain, whereas the Renegade path eschewed risks involved with the Paragon path but didn't really offer much gain to be an attractive alternative. Also, Renegade dialogue is typically intolerable, with him being tactless and chronically angry. Paragon dialogue and be nauseatingly naiive and idealistic, but at least acts like a normal human-being otherwise.

 

Despite its autodialogue issues, I felt ME3 gave me the best options and allowed me to mix it up better than before.

 

Now I'm like 66% R, 33% P, which feels most accurate for my Shepard than the 95/90% P ratings I had in ME1 & 2.



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100% Paragon, but I've a slight choice discrepancy regarding speeches:

 

ME1 - Paragon speech (Anderson sacrificed himself! We can't fail!).

ME2 - Renegade speech (We've come not to kill them, but to make them regret - just badass :D The Paragon speech is just....way too soft for a situation where you need the blood of your squad pumping).

ME3 - Paragon speech (Although we're from different worlds, we're brothers....much better than the "Go ahead and get yourselves killed!" Renegade' one).



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100% Paragon, but I've a slight choice discrepancy regarding speeches:

 

ME1 - Paragon speech (Anderson sacrificed himself! We can't fail!).

ME2 - Renegade speech (We've come not to kill them, but to make them regret - just badass :D The Paragon speech is just....way too soft for a situation where you need the blood of your squad pumping).

ME3 - Paragon speech (Although we're from different worlds, we're brothers....much better than the "Go ahead and get yourselves killed!" Renegade' one).

100% Paragon? Does such a thing exist? "You're soft. Salarians, asari,  all soft."


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Really. In a rare paragon playthrough, I had almost all squadmates dead, sabotaged the genophage and sided with the Geth

I was pretty certain that squadmate deaths were largely independent of whether or not you went the paragon or renegade route, since you can be pure paragon or renegade and get them to survive. As for Rannoch, is the choice between the geth and quarians actually a matter of renegade or paragon? I don't recall this decision actually having an effect on your alignment.


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The "Upload the code" is the upper right choice.



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I was pretty certain that squadmate deaths were largely independent of whether or not you went the paragon or renegade route, since you can be pure paragon or renegade and get them to survive. As for Rannoch, is the choice between the geth and quarians actually a matter of renegade or paragon? I don't recall this decision actually having an effect on your alignment.

i had the opportunity to make peace. I didn't. I chose the upper right dialogue to side with the Geth.

 

With the squadmates, I didn't recruit Wrex, Kaidan died on Virmire. In ME2 I had recruited all squadmates except Grunt, He stayed in the tank. Of the 11, Miranda, Zaeed, Tali, Legion and Samara were the only one's alive.

 

In ME3, Wiks stayed alive since I didn't do Mordin's loyalty mission and Wreav is in charge. Samara died in ME3 becasue I didn't take the interrupt, Legion uploaded the code, Tali commited suicide and Miranda died on Horizon because I chose different dialogue. The only squadmates alive at the end of ME3 was James, Liara, Zaeed and Ashley

 

In the trilogy the only time I chose anything renegade was letting the council die in ME1 and shooting TIM after he shot Anderson


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100% Paragon? Does such a thing exist? "You're soft. Salarians, asari,  all soft."

 

Well, 99,99999% Paragon. So Paragon in fact that I didn't even shot Ethan Jeong in the face back in Feros :)



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Well, 99,99999% Paragon. So Paragon in fact that I didn't even shot Ethan Jeong in the face back in Feros :)

Most of the time I don't shoot him either, no matter how much I want to by the end of that conversation. 



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My canon Shepard is renegade. It's more realistic. The "white knight" portrayal of paragons is 1-dimensional and unrealistic; especially considering Shepard's body count. If you're looking for a good story the protagonist should have a gray personality with flaws. I'm also not a fan of the "paragon = instant win" design of the games regarding choices.


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None. I have exactly 50% of each. That makes me neutral I guess.



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I'm mostly Paragon, but whenever Geth or synthetics get involved I go full Renegade mode against them. Suck on it Legion :P!
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My canon Shepard is renegade. It's more realistic. The "white knight" portrayal of paragons is 1-dimensional and unrealistic; especially considering Shepard's body count. If you're looking for a good story the protagonist should have a gray personality with flaws. I'm also not a fan of the "paragon = instant win" design of the games regarding choices.

 

Agreed, but I'm not a fan of how pointlessly prickish some renegade choices are and the fact that pure renegade Shep is automatically human-centric. Renegon is more balanced.

 

(OT) Your name seems familiar. I think we discussed about Loghain's tactics/morals/stuff on youtube a while ago :lol:



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Agreed, but I'm not a fan of how pointlessly prickish some renegade choices are and the fact that pure renegade Shep is automatically human-centric. Renegon is more balanced.

 

(OT) Your name seems familiar. I think we discussed about Loghain's tactics/morals/stuff on youtube a while ago :lol:

 

I'm not advocating pure renegade. If I just auto-clicked renegade then it wouldn't be role-playing much. Ex: My renegade Shepard didn't side with Morinth and wasn't a racist. She was ruthless and practical though. I found many of the major decisions to likely be completed renegade if done by people in real life who couldn't meta-game. (Ex: Killing the rachni queen rather than releasing it, focusing on Sovereign instead of diverting vital resources to save the council, destroying the geth instead of rewriting, keeping the Collector base, sabotaging the genophage cure to get salarian aid, not saving the rachni queen again, etc.)

 

And I have spoken of Loghain on YouTube at some point so it's likely me you've talked to. Small internet, huh?


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Really. In a rare paragon playthrough, I had almost all squadmates dead, sabotaged the genophage and sided with the Geth


Squadmate deaths and Priority:Rannoch don't have associated P/R scores. Sabotaging the cure does give some Renegade.

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I'm replaying my canon Shep right now because she's on the 360. So you're getting to see her. Colonist-Sole Survivor. Vanguard. She's got "issues" especially when it comes to Batarians. The play through is going at a snails pace, but I'm playing in a golf tournament.



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The "Upload the code" is the upper right choice.

It is the "right" choice! :D



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Yeah, even my paragade vanguard is rough around the edges.  Can't imagine going full-blown blue. 



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Two sides of the same coin. To OP, Renegon. If they didn't make renegade seem like for psychopaths and paragon for wussies I'll be more inclined to pick a side. I know being one or the other is a big factor for ME but I seriously hope BW removes it or changes it.