Squadmate deaths and Priority:Rannoch don't have associated P/R scores. Sabotaging the cure does give some Renegade.
If you shoot Ashley/Kaidan during the coup gives renegade if you decide to, siding with the Quarians gives renegade if you choose to shoot Legion, shooting Wrex on Virmire gives renegade if you don't have Ashley do it, killing Mordin gives renegade, killing Wrex in ME3 gives renegade if you choose to shoot him
Usually pretty dang paragon in the first game. I typically get most renegade points when dealing with Balak or indoctrinated. Balak because 3 people is worth the price of stopping a terrorist that dangerous, and the other because my Shepard's always hit a lightbulb moment on Virmire where they realize the only way to save an indoctrinated is to kill them. They'll never be normal again, they'll never have true control over themselves again. Only thing you can do is end their misery. This is why they kill that Asari scientist who lets you into Saren's room, this is why they free the mindless Salarians just for the sake of killing them (which always changes the area music of Virmire to super creepy music all the way until you find the beacon*). There is no mercy to be given to indoctrinated, mercy is actually the cruel choice to them.
ME2 I go almost pure paragon thanks to the game working in ratios of how many paragon to renegade options you have taken being what determines your persuasion levels and that the bars showing your paragon and renegade scores are largely irrelevant. Still, I take most renegade interrupts. I always shoot Elnora, the fire tank below that blood pack Krogan (always wait until he's on his final paragraph so I've heard everything first), the one to kill that mechanic on Garrus' recruitment for purely tactical reasons. I don't take the one for the guy near the window in Thane's recruitment though, unlike nearly everyone else. The renegade persuasion is far more badass to me, where Shepard slams him against the window hard enough to crack it and asks the merc if he thinks he'll hear what sound he makes from hitting the ground before he dies. Somehow feels a lot more threatening than just straight-up doing it. Also, I don't use the paragon persuasion on Grunt when you let him out, I just go full paragon and Shepard eventually says "this is on you" and shoots him anyway without the renegade interrupt. I think convincing him with bullets works more for Grunt than using words.
ME3 I'm usually much more paragade. I don't have any morality restrictions anymore now that it's based on reputation instead of morality. So I don't have to worry about not being able to persuade based on being too middle-of-the-road anymore. That game, I tend to just pick whatever I want. Still largely paragon, but not afraid to get renegade often. Like ME1 actually.
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Interesting responses to the question (and with real consequences).
I'm the kind of guy that would give you my shirt if needed and beat the crap out of the bully pestering you. Sometimes you need to SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE.
Paragon 75%
Renegade 25% for bullies, thugs, punks, murders, mercenaries -- and sometimes I give the finger to the Council
ME1 going after Fist:
Shep (paragon) to the guards "look, I just trashed a whole room full of trained commandos back there -- you want to tangle with me?"
Guards: "yeah, I don't think I get paid enough for this" (they leave).
Garrus: "you see, you don't always have to shoot your way thru things"
Shep (renegade) to Fist: "you die now!"
Two sides of the same coin. To OP, Renegon. If they didn't make renegade seem like for psychopaths and paragon for wussies I'll be more inclined to pick a side. I know being one or the other is a big factor for ME but I seriously hope BW removes it or changes it.
I don't know if anyone manages 100% paragon/0% renegade or vice versa. Even though my canon Shepard was what I'd call renegade she had filled out the paragon bar somewhat. The rule I followed was to never once choose a paragon (blue) persuasion and yet paragon was over 1/5 filled in ME1, nearly 3/5 filled in ME2, and 2/5 filled in ME3 although once reputation gets filled it gets a little screwy.
100% Paragon.
100% Renegade.
That's how I role.
To use a quote from CoD: World At War that describes my Shepard and work it my own way:
Chernov's Diary: April 30th, 1945: When he first spoke of Dimitri, Reznov told tales of a hero, someone we should all aspire to be like. At times, I have seen him show merciful compassion to friend and foe alike; at others, complete murderous brutality... to friend and foe alike. I do not understand him. I feel that men like him are not meant to be understood. Perhaps heroes need not question their actions.
Indeed, that's how Aria even characterizes my Shepard: At times, he's supporting her and confirming her beliefs. At others, he's standing against her and not allowing her to take her own action. She doesn't understand him and it bothers her. And when she tells him about it, he tells her that he prefers people keep guessing. To that, Aria simply says that Shepard is by far the most dangerous being she has ever encountered.
100% Paragon.
100% Renegade.
That's how I role.
To use a quote from CoD: World At War that describes my Shepard and work it my own way:
Chernov's Diary: April 30th, 1945: When he first spoke of Dimitri, Reznov told tales of a hero, someone we should all aspire to be like. At times, I have seen him show merciful compassion to friend and foe alike; at others, complete murderous brutality... to friend and foe alike. I do not understand him. I feel that men like him are not meant to be understood. Perhaps heroes need not question their actions.
Indeed, that's how Aria even characterizes my Shepard: At times, he's supporting her and confirming her beliefs. At others, he's standing against her and not allowing her to take her own action. She doesn't understand him and it bothers her. And when she tells him about it, he tells her that he prefers people keep guessing. To that, Aria simply says that Shepard is by far the most dangerous being she has ever encountered.
That sounds like a paragade/renegon pyschopath. lol
Aria is the only character who can calls Shepard out on not making sense though I think.
Ex: (to Samara)
"I should have been told this a long time ago." (regarding Samara's daughter Morinth)
"I need my crew to be good at their jobs and keep their personal lives personal."
Ex: When negotating with the quarians in ME3 you can switch between defending the geth and not.
Paragade or Renegon is how I play. I am never fully Paragon or Renegade. it's more 75% to 25% ratio between the two.
"I'm not crazy!"That sounds like a paragade/renegon pyschopath. lol
Aria is the only character who can calls Shepard out on not making sense though I think.
I find it entertaining how many people extol their Shepard's virtue and yet do stuff like defenestrating the merc on Thane's mission, not for practical reasons, but just because it's funny.
Well, Shepard has already killed more mercs than s/he could count by that point, so why not add another to the pile (that could come back to bite them in the ass later on)?
Squadmate deaths and Priority:Rannoch don't have associated P/R scores. Sabotaging the cure does give some Renegade.
I received paragon points for charming ("Now isn't the time") Mordin in my Wreav playthrough, iirc. I suppose only shooting Mordin is renegade 
"I'm not crazy!"
I find it entertaining how many people extol their Shepard's virtue and yet do stuff like defenestrating the merc on Thane's mission, not for practical reasons, but just because it's funny.
What? My Shepard is virtuous. She hasn't done anything wrong. Jeong wanted to purge the colony. Wrex was a time bomb. Balak was a terrorist. Lt. Charn was there for a slave grab. Rana Thanoptis tortured Salarians. The Rachni were a plague. I just know she'll make the right choice with the Council. She seems to get along with that Asari councilor.
What? My Shepard is virtuous. She hasn't done anything wrong. Jeong wanted to purge the colony. Wrex was a time bomb. Balak was a terrorist. Lt. Charn was there for a slave grab. Rana Thanoptis tortured Salarians. The Rachni were a plague. I just know she'll make the right choice with the Council. She seems to get along with that Asari councilor.
My renegade shep says, Amen.
The Council decision is pretty much like this, translated to contemporary times:
Paragon: save the President
Renegade: kill the terrorist.
And then suddenly it turns out it's a rather stupid decision.
The "Upload the code" is the upper right choice.
When I first played these games, I was almost totally Paragon. Sometimes a bit 'curt' or 'annoyed', but it didn't happen often.
Now, I'm more clearly Paragade. I'm friendly towards my friends, allies, and even contentious neutrals (like Khalisah). However, I don't (nearly as often as before) act kindly towards those who behave as direct threats. You point a gun at me, I'll still hear you out. You point a gun at me and make it clear that you intend on slaughtering me and my squad - you're done. Even if you put your gun down without my influence to do so, I have you marked as a significant threat.
I'd say about 70-80% Paragon and 20-30% Renegade in ME3. I still have to set up my ME2 playthrough on PC, but I was more like 80-90% Paragon last time I played a 'MainShep' there.
I reason this way - if I was in the Krogan Rebellion, I'd shoot krogan with barely a second thought. But with more promising times, I'll try for something, well, more promising. And even when killing krogan in the Rebellion, I wouldn't stoop to genocide of them unless they were in the middle of attempting genocide against us (like flinging asteroids..).
I'm there with the Reapers too. They have to deal with the actions they've done, and I'm not going to rule them in order to have them survive that justice. I'll stay as human as possible, thanks, and take the Reapers down just as my EDI expects, and I believe my geth accept.
My Shepard himself, in some way (even in my imagination), will have to face his own actions as well. I don't put anyone exempt. I imagine my Shepard living in Breath Destroy, but having an honorable (if only due to victory against the Reapers) discharge from the Alliance Military as all the facts of his journey come to light. The good, but also the bad I've had him do.
About 65/35 Renegade/Paragon. You get the best of both worlds and a more rounded character.
I have my bars maxed out in both ME1 and ME2 for both groups, and all options are available to me. In ME3, my reputation meter is all kinds of screwed up.
I have my bars maxed out in both ME1 and ME2 for both groups, and all options are available to me. In ME3, my reputation meter is all kinds of screwed up.
Oh my, this sounds like me.
I've never gotten both bars maxed out for either game. Guess I'll have to look up ways to do that, though I suspect I'll have to do things I don't like to do it, though in ME1, it doesn't really matter, since I get both charm and intimidate maxed out anyhow, granting me all dialogue options. I kinda wish ME2 had that in place, because you sure need a lot of renegade points in order to get the amusingly short interrogation with Elias Kelham.
I've never gotten both bars maxed out for either game. Guess I'll have to look up ways to do that, though I suspect I'll have to do things I don't like to do it, though in ME1, it doesn't really matter, since I get both charm and intimidate maxed out anyhow, granting me all dialogue options. I kinda wish ME2 had that in place, because you sure need a lot of renegade points in order to get the amusingly short interrogation with Elias Kelham.
Importing a save with full bars from ME1 should really help you with that though, it gives you options.
One thing to keep in mind when playing ME2 is that whenever you can get morality points, you should. The game keeps tracks of how much points you could've gotten and how much you have and bases the check on that value.
Look at it like this: you pass the check if the value is somewhere between 0 and 1. 1 being where you've acquired all possible points for that morality, 0 where you've acquired none. Importing a character from ME with close to full bars makes your starting values for both paragon and renegade well above 1, which gives you (a lot) of room to deviate from the full paragon/renegade path while still keeping the options for more difficult checks. (in my last run the only check I didn't get both options was Vasir)
Long story short: it's not about how much points you have, but about how much you could've gotten and you have.
Importing a save with full bars from ME1 should really help you with that though, it gives you options.
One thing to keep in mind when playing ME2 is that whenever you can get morality points, you should. The game keeps tracks of how much points you could've gotten and how much you have and bases the check on that value.
Look at it like this: you pass the check if the value is somewhere between 0 and 1. 1 being where you've acquired all possible points for that morality, 0 where you've acquired none. Importing a character from ME with close to full bars makes your starting values for both paragon and renegade well above 1, which gives you (a lot) of room to deviate from the full paragon/renegade path while still keeping the options for more difficult checks. (in my last run the only check I didn't get both options was Vasir)
Long story short: it's not about how much points you have, but about how much you could've gotten and you have.
Exactly. That's why I said in my own post further up that I understand how the morality and persuasion work and that the bars for paragon and renegade are mostly for show.
My normal playstyle is about 80/20 paragon/renegade in all three games. I think too many renegade choices are just needlessly cruel, and I also try to avoid all pro-human/pro-earth/humans are awesome dialogue choices.
But there are also a few paragon options I hate. I didn't really like for example how preachy ME2 Paragon Shepard sometimes was, especially with Mordin. And I pick some renegade interrupts here and there (You talk too much!).
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