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Do the Qunari find the other humanoid races intimidating?


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Humans, Elves, Dwarves ect, apparently hornless Qunari are supposed to be intimidating to other Qunari however I can't for the life of me figure out why, personally I would be more afraid of the guy with massive horns growing out of his head than the one without them but that is just me, just wondering what the logic is behind this snippet of lore is?

 

From what I can see a lot of the lore behind the Dragon Age universe is written without any real rhyme or reason, basically what they have done is take popular fantasy tropes and as a substitute for creativity done the opposite for no real reason other than to subvert expectations, most medieval fantasy settings are located in the Northern Hemisphere while Dragon Age is located in the Southern Hemisphere, Elves are usually depicted as Immortal and among the most respected races in their respective universe however in Dragon Age they are bottom feeders and servants, ect.

 

Perhaps there is something I am missing but it would be nice to get an idea from the writers behind some of the logic behind the writing of the Dragon Age universe.



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They may have done it for Sten's benefit, since he's hornless?



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They may have done it for Sten's benefit, since he's hornless?

 

Yeah that is what I am thinking, were the Qunari always supposed to have horns or was that changed in DA2? I mean none of the other Qunari in Origins have horns either.



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Yeah that is what I am thinking, were the Qunari always supposed to have horns or was that changed in DA2? I mean none of the other Qunari in Origins have horns either.


He was originally going to have them, but they couldn't figure out how to make helmets work with horns.


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Hornless qunari often serve in the ben-hassreth, religious enforcers who re-educate qunari who step out of line.
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It's just Qunari culture , maybe they see hornless qunari as being more able to control themselves ?

They used to worship animals before the Qun , so I guess they like the fact that some of them starts to look less like some beasts?(dragons?)

Who knows?



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Hornless qunari often serve in the ben-hassreth, religious enforcers who re-educate qunari who step out of line.

I thought it was the other way around?

 

Qunari like Sten are the types used for envoys or become leaders of the ben-hassreth



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Humans, Elves, Dwarves ect, apparently hornless Qunari are supposed to be intimidating to other Qunari however I can't for the life of me figure out why, personally I would be more afraid of the guy with massive horns growing out of his head than the one without them but that is just me, just wondering what the logic is behind this snippet of lore is?

Dwarves make some mean ankle biters. Just sayin'

More seriously, the hornless kossith are supposedly rare, and as such believed to be destined for Great Things™. Perhaps this attitude is then also subconsciously projected on other races with similar appearance?

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Yes ... Pete says so (insert Qunari here):

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Well, so far we've only ever met soldiers and they are by nature of their profession not really intimidated easily, so it may give us a wrong impression when I look back and see them mostly aloof and/or with midly disguised disgust towards the rest of Thedas.

 

I would say the fact that both Sten and Arishock can both develope a healthy respect, something that goes hand-in-hand with fear in a warrior's mindset says something about about their capacity to get intimidated in general and the fact that you have to work hard to earn that level of emotional connection, I'd wager the guess that no, they do not generally feel intimidated by humans/elves/dwarves much.



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They just made up that "hornless" lore to cover the redesign and the fact that before DA2 no Qunari had horns (though in DA2 none were hornless). It doesn't make sense to me either.



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They just made up that "hornless" lore to cover the redesign and the fact that before DA2 no Qunari had horns (though in DA2 none were hornless). It doesn't make sense to me either.

 

 

One the one hand it's easy to say they always intended qunari to have horns and just couldn't do due to the game engines limits like handling character models and equipment, etc., but on the other hand it's hard to say that it's just a convenient excuse for a lore adaptation if you can't verify either way as outsider.

 

 

I just take it as it goes and can't say I was particularily disappointed with how they looked in DAII.



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I get the impression that they see the other races as squishy little things that can be crushed easily.

 

The qunari finding hornless qunari intimidating is because they are unusual since ALL qunari have horns. It's the norm for them. For the other races, they find the horns intimidating, but for the qunari it makes sense to find the ones among them that don't have the regular horns intimidating.


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I get the impression that they see the other races as squishy little things that can be crushed easily.

 

 

 

That was Shale, silly little rabbit :lol:


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They just made up that "hornless" lore to cover the redesign and the fact that before DA2 no Qunari had horns (though in DA2 none were hornless). It doesn't make sense to me either.

 

As has been said already - Sten was originally supposed to have Horns but then they couldn't work out how to make the helmets fit without doing a special Sten helmets.

 

Thats why they added the lore about Hornless Qunari to being more intimidating and why Tal Vashoth cut their horns off to seem more intimidating.



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I dunno why you apply your own thoughts and opinions about what is intimidating to a made up fantasy race.

 

Anyway, hornless Qunari are considered special and so many of them are made Ben-Hassrath or given other prestigious jobs this could be part of why they are considered intimidating but it may just be because they are different. 



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I thought it was the other way around?
 
Qunari like Sten are the types used for envoys or become leaders of the ben-hassreth


Here is Gaider from a long time ago.

Hornless qunari are not rare freaks of nature-- simply uncommon. Most of the Ben-Hassrath are hornless, for instance, and thus your average qunari might be forgiven for thinking that a lack of horns is very intimidating.



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That was Shale, silly little rabbit :lol:

 

True, but Shale got along with Sten marvelously, so them having similar opinions on the squishy races is not far fetched :D



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True, but Shale got along with Sten marvelously, so them having similar opinions on the squishy races is not far fetched :D

 

 

Them sweaty muscles rippling with light. Rawr.


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I dunno why you apply your own thoughts and opinions about what is intimidating to a made up fantasy race.

 

The devil is in the details and the small details are usually what make good fiction great fiction, yes the Qunari are a made up fantasy race but you would still hope that the lore related to them is written with some sort of reason or logic behind it, I mean technically the writers could have written that the Qunari find butterflies intimidating but then would you find the believable as a formidable force to be reckoned with?



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The devil is in the details and the small details are usually what make good fiction great fiction, yes the Qunari are a made up fantasy race but you would still hope that the lore related to them is written with some sort of reason or logic behind it, I mean technically the writers could have written that the Qunari find butterflies intimidating but then would you find the believable as a formidable force to be reckoned with?

 

Well if you read a few posts up someone has already pointed out that most of the Ben-Hassrath are hornless. Ben-Hassraths are like religious enforcers/police. There is a logical reason, you are just not accepting it because you have decided horns are scarier than no horns. 

 

As to your butterfly point. Many people find mice and spiders (among other things) scary and intimidating, fear is not always rational or based on how formidable the thing you are afraid of actually is. 



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I've always figured the horns/no horns was a genetic thing, with no horns being the recessive trait.  Not a stigma, just a curiosity.



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Hornless qunari often serve in the ben-hassreth, religious enforcers who re-educate qunari who step out of line.

 

This is what those silly mages need.



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Well if you read a few posts up someone has already pointed out that most of the Ben-Hassrath are hornless. Ben-Hassraths are like religious enforcers/police. There is a logical reason, you are just not accepting it because you have decided horns are scarier than no horns. 

 

Most but not all Ben-Hassrath are hornless? And most importantly not all Hornless are Ben-Hassrath? I don't accept the reason because there is still no logic to it, it would be like saying Albinos are intimidating because you know an Albino who is a cop, I would like to think the writers at Bioware could give a better reason than that.

 

As to your butterfly point. Many people find mice and spiders (among other things) scary and intimidating, fear is not always rational or based on how formidable the thing you are afraid of actually is. 

 

Even among people who hate mice and spiders I doubt you will find anyone who would call them intimidating, disgusting maybe but not intimidating.



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Even among people who hate mice and spiders I doubt you will find anyone who would call them intimidating, disgusting maybe but not intimidating.

 

 

They never saw a Sydney funnel-web spider.


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