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Theory i just came up with!,yay! (4 months till release date~)

 

Flemeth is Urzara,Urthemiel's daughter.

OR

Morrigan is Urzara,daughter of Urthemiel and Flemeth.

 

Or one of them is with Urzara's soul. (Dark Ritual)

 

Urthemiel is the only Old God known to have a (female) child,might also explain Flemeth's ability to shapeshift into a Dragon or Flemeth's/Morrigan's interest in Urthemiel. - (family reunion? xD)

 

B) :wizard:


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Huh, didn't know any of this. Was it in the WoT?



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Good theory. Who knows~~



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Theory i just came up with!,yay! (4 months till release date~)
 
Flemeth is Urzara,Urthemiel's daughter.
OR
Morrigan is Urzara,daughter of Urthemiel and Flemeth.
 
Or one of them is with Urzara's soul. (Dark Ritual)
 
Urthemiel is the only Old God known to have a (female) child,might also explain Flemeth's ability to shapeshift into a Dragon or Flemeth's/Morrigan's interest in Urthemiel. - (family reunion? xD)
 
B) :wizard:


Makes sense. The warden does not die, the demon soul enters the baby and Morrigan disappears into the Eluvian.

However I cant find info about Urthemiel having a daughter?

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Huh, didn't know any of this. Was it in the WoT?

https://dragonage.wi.../Urzara's_Tooth / https://dragonage.wi..._Urzara's_Tooth

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Huh, didn't know any of this. Was it in the WoT?

<a data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="https://dragonage.wi...com/wiki/Urzara" href="https://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Urzara" s_tooth"="">https://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Urzara's_Tooth / https://dragonage.wi..._Urzara's_Tooth


Says Urzara fell though, is this somehoe in the future?

"army of militiamen. The men suffered heavy losses but succeeded in killing the dragon. When Urzara fell, many cultists threw themselves into the Minanter and died."

Been trying to figure out how Flemeth appeared in the beginning of DA:2 to help Hawke.

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But her soul might not,using Dark Ritual.

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BloodyTalon

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Well we know Flemeth was in Ferelden before the land was even called that when it was nothing but barbarians.

So could be possible.



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Highly doubtful that Morrigan is Urzara. I don't think Flemeth's daughters are actually blood related to her.

Urzara is a good hypothesis for Flemeth however. She's survived a grade-A Warden asswhooping so it's possible she's done it before. It might also explain where all her arcane knowledge comes from.

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So Urthemiel is his own grand-grandson?

 

:lol:


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I don't think Urzara actually was Urthemiel's daughter. I think it was just a standard rampaging High Dragon, that had a cult worshiping it similar to the Urn of Sacred Ashes dragon cult. Urzara was probably killed for good when the Marchers struck it down.


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Flemeth is andraste, morrigan is just some kid she found an brought up

 

My ideas are simple because so am i :D



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I think it's more likely that Flemeth is the last Forbidden One, The Formless One. The title formless sounds like it fits for a shapeshifter/body jumper type being. Though i wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Flemeth's true identity, and past is less fantastical than all of our theories.
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Theory i just came up with!,yay! (4 months till release date~)

 

Flemeth is Urzara,Urthemiel's daughter.

OR

Morrigan is Urzara,daughter of Urthemiel and Flemeth.

 

Or one of them is with Urzara's soul. (Dark Ritual)

 

Urthemiel is the only Old God known to have a (female) child,might also explain Flemeth's ability to shapeshift into a Dragon or Flemeth's/Morrigan's interest in Urthemiel. - (family reunion? xD)

 

B) :wizard:

 

One of two things is clearly going on:

 

Either Morrigan is a devotee of the old gods (hence her statement in DA:O, "Some things are worth preserving,") or she is connected to Urthemiel in some way. Otherwise, why go to the trouble of preserving his soul?

 

I suppose you could argue that the Dark Ritual was simply a power grab, but Morrigan seems to have a deeper agenda than that.


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I think it's more likely that Flemeth is the last Forbidden One, The Formless One. The title formless sounds like it fits for a shapeshifter/body jumper type being. Though i wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Flemeth's true identity, and past is less fantastical than all of our theories.

It does seem like she and Imshael would get along, yes.


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Not Morrigan but Flemeth is probably Urzara since she can transform into a dragon and live long. I'd say Morrigan is more powerful than a regular human mage just from spawning from Flemeth. I also think that's why Morrigan wanted Urthemiel's soul because he was her grandaddy! Oh, it all makes sense now!


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Sounds legit; but then again just about any solid theory based on actual lore sounds legit to me. This is coming from someone who thinks Andraste was Dumat reborn.



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Urzara was just a high dragon.


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Could the dmeon she found in the wilds have been the last  acicent one and she merge with it instead of becoming an what typically happens to mages when they take one a demon becoming a new entity completely?

Since Morrigan at the end of witch hunt said she was beyound what people thought of her?


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I love this concept! That would be such an amazing twist and serious props to you for reading up on the lore to be able to think it up! It's another scuttlebug to keep in mind when we see events start to unfold in DA:I or future Dragon Age games. :D



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I had the same theory months ago too. I believed that Urzara may very well be Flemeth. If Morrigan is the biological daughter of Flemeth then it'll make that sense that Urthemiels could can be transferred.

In DA it seems blood relation is important. Just like an Archdemon can body jump to any tainted thing. Just like Flemeth can body jump to any of her daughter...or son.

The DR has all the required parts: the blood of Urthemiel (Morrigan) + the taint (warden) + ritual = purified OGB
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Listen, having old god baby was NOT Morrigans idea. She says if pressed Flemeth told her to do it, it's how she also found out the grey warden who kills a arch demon dies. Morrigan was just some girl Flemeth found and adopted who didn't know much until she started reading Flemeths grimoires and went into business for herself.

This theory is sound because Morrigan says later Flemeth is beyond what any of them though. That she's not a abomination or even human, so being an old gods daughter seems to be a good theory.

(I'm a Flemeth and Morrigan scholar)
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Sounds legit; but then again just about any solid theory based on actual lore sounds legit to me. This is coming from someone who thinks Andraste was Dumat reborn.


I love the OGB Andraste theory.



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I always assumed Flemeth was her own thing. Not all powerful things have to be related.


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It has been said that the dark ritual was an old ritual. What if Flemeth altered it so that an unborn child can have the soul of an old god?

Clearly its intended use was for person soul X to jump to unborn soul Y
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