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The Dragon Age Tournament - And the winner is...


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#176
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Fight 1

Leliana. Assumning she can stay out of his reach and fire arrows while running. Qunari armor (as we saw in DA2) sucks. It looks awesome, but it sucks, and underneath it is still a big softie. It wouldn't take many arrows to cripple his movement. I hope shes fast, sorry Sten.

 

Fight 2

Morrigan vs Shale... Morrigan. Because shapeshifting, and because magic. Rock Armored bear that can shapeshift back out to heal wounds is just too awesome. If Morrigan has learned how to shift into a dragon, then its even worse for Shale.



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Leliana because she's more clever and agile, and Morrigan because she's incredibly powerful.



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Sten, could you be a dear and die from a couple of arrows before you charge in and cleave me in two in a single hit?
No.

 

STEN WINS

 

Ooh...the Swamp Witch wants to play catch with her magic spells!  Let's see if it can shrug off boulders the same way I can shrug off elemental damage...That would be a no.

 

SHALE WINS


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Sten 8/2 - Sten wins by blitzing Leliana while she's tired. As Arishok and a Sten before that he has the discipline to work through pain and fatigue and to find his second wind. Leliana is a hell of an assassin and bard. but not a trained soldier built for withstanding long sieges. He ends it before it begins. Leliana also has a tendency to get captured meaning she is human and fallible and not Andraste's second coming like so many people would have you believe.

 

Morrigan 6/4 - Morrigan uses her superior speed (as seen in the Sacred Ashes trailer) to evade Shale until her mana reserves are replenished. Slows Shale down with her legendary ice spells. And finally shapeshifts into something equally fearsome like an alpha bronto or a wyvern. The fire/ice/keeper magic thrown at Shale by Zathrian was enough to buy Morrigan the time.



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Leliana vs Sten : It's a close one, but I think Leliana would probably win this one. Sten might be stronger then her, but he's also extremely straightforward in his fightstyle, and Leliana's wits, agility and versatility (capable of showering him with arrows and also defending herself with her daggers if he managed to get too close) would be able take him down.

 

Morrigan vs Shale : Morrigan is really powerful, but I doubt that her magic would help her against a dwarven golem. Her shapeshifting ability grants her more survavibility then other mages but that's not enough to defeat Shale.



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Leliana would beat Sten, because she could fill him full of enough arrows to being him down, long before he could get to her. 

 

Shale would beat Morrigan because her magic won't be enough to really defeat a stone golem, but Shale would just need to hit her once to kill her. 



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Leliana would have more than enough time to shoot Sten considering the latter is far, tired and slow.

Morrigan can shapeshift in a bird or a swarm of bees to get away from Shale and attack from afar or rest. She could also shapeshift in a spider to get out of reach of Shale.

Also

Morrigan: Keep asking questions and I shall turn into a bird. I can do that.
Shale: (Snorts) I have no fear of birds.
Morrigan: Oh, I didn't say you were afraid. I would simply hover out of reach, hovering, waiting until...
Shale: Enough! I shall be silent.
Morrigan: Excellent choice.
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Sten - due to raw power and stamina
Shale - she's sturdier, also, Morrigan would be very weak from over use of magic by now


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Sten would probably crush Leliana in a straight up fight. Leliana's main advantage is that she's can influence people by talking and is a good actress. Sten is a warrior and the current Arishok meaning his got to be one of the best fighters out there.

 

Shale probably got an advantage with all the gems and resistance that come with them so Morrigan would have to shapeshift but I doubt any animal that Morrigan shapeshifts into is gonna beat Shale. Even if she turns into a bird, Shale will just crush it with her feet in a straight up one vs. one fight.



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Sten being a solider I think his stamina would hold up better than Leliana's and that would give him the edge over her. So I'd bet my money on Sten to win quite easily. I think Leliana could assassinate Sten, but she wouldn't win in a tournament setting.

 

I would assume what blood magic Morrigan knows would be useless versus Shale. I do not see conventional magic prevailing over Shale especially since I assume Morrigan using her spells in previous fights would be quite taxing on her. Morrigan has Flemeth's grimoire tho, and that could have a spell especially for magical creatures such as golems. Morrigan's shapeshifting could also buy her some time. This one is really tough to call. I'm gonna assume if Morrigan knows a spell to harnass the soul of an Old God she has some tricks  that could prevail over Shale. Gonna give the slightest edge to Morrigan.



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(STEN) Leliana's primary advantage lies in her cleverness and ability to manipulate, neither of these would work on someone as dedicated to the Qun as Sten, this isnt some political game they're playing this is a fight to the death, he was literally been bred for this. He takes it hands down. I see people saying this is a hard decision but honestly its very easy in my opinion, the only damage she would do is with a bow and that will only work as long as it takes for him to walk up with Asala and split her in two.

 

(SHALE) Morrigans area of magic i think in this case wouldnt allow her to do much damage while shale literally only has to grab her or hit her once to do crippling damage.



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Fight 1

Leliana - I believe she would win because she's more agile than Sten. When Sten gets weary from fighting, it will take a lot of time for his stamina to replenish, so to speak. Leliana has speed and her smaller stature on her side.

 

Fight 2

Morrigan (DA:O) - This was a difficult one, but I do believe that Morrigan would win against Shale. Morrigan has shapeshifting magic, which is a sustained form. It only takes a little mana for her to assume the form of another animal. She could shift into a quick/agile creature and evade all of Shale's attacks while waiting for her mana to replenish.


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Leliana vs Sten: Leliana. Even though Sten has more stamina, I think Sten's fights would be tougher and more exhausting than Leliana's since the warriors all hack and slash in heavy armor, maybe except Fenris. Sten would be more drained. Secondly, given that they are far apart, Leliana will again have the advantage. A few shots to weak points will be enough to cripple or even kill Sten before he reaches her in his full armor. He might consider removing his armor before the fight starts as it would give him better maneuverability and recovery, but it would also give Leliana more places to target. If he is able to get close, however, Leliana might be done for. His wide swings might be too much for an also-exhausted Leliana to dodge.

Morrigan vs Shale: Shale. The mage battles would easily exhaust Morrigan's mana pool, making her just as winded as physical exertion would. Without mana replenishing potions, Shale will likely win. Squishing a human who cannot dodge takes little effort. Even if Morrigan could buy time by shapeshifting into a bird and rest, her recovery will likely be limited. Her mana will not allow her to power spells strong enough to defeat sturdy Shale.

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Leliana vs Sten : Sten. As much as I love Leliana her charm won't stand a chance against Sten's pure strength.

 

Morrigan vs Shale : Morrigan. Once she turns into uncrushable pigeon this game is over. 



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Leliana vs Sten - Sten would win cause lets face he was born and rised to fight and his whole being is dedicated to service to the qun and military might, also Leilana wouldn't be able to use her charms on Sten and while she is busy pulling arrors out Stem charges and would just cleaves her head off.

So yup this one goes to Sten hands down for many reasons that is just one of them.

 

 

Morrigan vs Shale - Has much has I would love to say Morrigan would win this one, Shale's last fights has her more then rather, plus mage so pop goes Morrigan's little head.

Would go through more reasons why, but for some reason see Shale crushing Morrigan's head like a ripe fruit..

Shale wins this.


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#191
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You know just thought it about didn't Sten once mention something about towers with many levels where his people are trained when he was taken with you to Solider's peek, arena and such style combat seems more and more his thing.



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Ugh. I honestly don't really even want to vote anymore. The magnitude of how much I disagree with the results is infuriating me. It's hard to advocate for people I believe should've been eliminated several rounds ago...but whatever. I guess this is what a democracy is. Since I've voted in every round so far, I'll comply.

 

ROUND 4

 

Fight 1

Leliana. 7:3. Sten is slow and straight forward. Leliana fits with cunning, variety, and finesse. Sten (and many of you probably) underestimate Leliana and see her as a squishy, easy target. Leliana will calculate his open points and weaknesses and eventually subdue him. Will probably weaken/tire him out in ranged combat, then go in for the systematic one-two hit combo that'll fatally take him down. Sten never sees it coming. 

 

Fight 2

Morrigan. 9:1. How Shale ended up defeating an extremely powerful mage like Zathrian is beyond me...all Shale is, is a GOLEM. That's it. There's NOTHING special about "her." She has NO UNIQUE abilities to her, she is just like any other Golem, aside from her freedom of a control rod. But whatever, moving onto to Morrigan vs Shale, what's the easiest way to subdue a golem? Break them. They are rocks/stone, they can be destroyed. Morrigan is adept in cold and debuff magic. Morrigan will freeze/slow Shale in its tracks, brittle its Golem form, debuff it further through entropic spells, and deliver the final magic blow that'll absolutely shatter Shale into smithereens. An easy win, one that Zathrian could've done himself. 



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Ugh. I honestly don't really even want to vote anymore. The magnitude of how much I disagree with the results is infuriating me. It's hard to advocate for people I believe should've been eliminated several rounds ago...but whatever. I guess this is what a democracy is. Since I've voted in every round so far, I'll comply.

 

Calm down. I haven't liked some of the results myself. How Alistair and Varric got knocked out of the first round is beyond me. Especially the former since Gaider went out of his way to make him the Thedosian Dragonborn in the comics.



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Calm down. I haven't liked some of the results myself. How Alistair and Varric got knocked out of the first round is beyond me. Especially the former since Gaider went out of his way to make him the Thedosian Dragonborn in the comics.

 

The fact that I disagree with the results doesn't imply that I'm not calm. Maybe my inclusion of the word "infuriating" may mislead that.

 

Alistair is literally one of the ones I knew would at least make it to the semi-finals, realistically speaking. Oh well.



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leliana her bard assassin ability beat sten warrior skill shale her ability to throw boulder and gems ability resist magic beat morrigan

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Ugh. I honestly don't really even want to vote anymore. The magnitude of how much I disagree with the results is infuriating me. It's hard to advocate for people I believe should've been eliminated several rounds ago...but whatever. I guess this is what a democracy is. Since I've voted in every round so far, I'll comply.

 

ROUND 4

 

Fight 1

Leliana. 7:3. Sten is slow and straight forward. Leliana fits with cunning, variety, and finesse. Sten (and many of you probably) underestimate Leliana and see her as a squishy, easy target. Leliana will calculate his open points and weaknesses and eventually subdue him. Will probably weaken/tire him out in ranged combat, then go in for the systematic one-two hit combo that'll fatally take him down. Sten never sees it coming. 

 

Fight 2

Morrigan. 9:1. How Shale ended up defeating an extremely powerful mage like Zathrian is beyond me...all Shale is, is a GOLEM. That's it. There's NOTHING special about "her." She has NO UNIQUE abilities to her, she is just like any other Golem, aside from her freedom of a control rod. But whatever, moving onto to Morrigan vs Shale, what's the easiest way to subdue a golem? Break them. They are rocks/stone, they can be destroyed. Morrigan is adept in cold and debuff magic. Morrigan will freeze/slow Shale in its tracks, brittle its Golem form, debuff it further through entropic spells, and deliver the final magic blow that'll absolutely shatter Shale into smithereens. An easy win, one that Zathrian could've done himself. 

You say you strongly disagree but just look at what you're saying, Sten, someone literally born into a warrior society given only one role (to be a soldier) loses 7 times out of 3 to a girl whose primary strength is espionage. Where is it said that he is slow and straight forward? This guy is seen in the eyes of the QUnari (the prime military machine of thedas) as being superior to all others in his field, that implies that he can deal with a single rouge in which he has far more years of experience than. "Sten never see's it coming"...Asala disagrees with that notion. Leliana isnt renown for her ability to go toe to toe and a bow alone will not win her this fight. The best Leliana can hope for is using her bow and as i said before, that advantage only lasts as long as it takes him to get from Point A to Point B,

 

You've assumed she doesnt have any crystals that would negate that brittling effect, a flame crystal will fix that problem easily, Morrigan does have a chance i will admit but ice spells wouldve been the best weapon without those crystals, all it takes for Shale is to get one hand on her and its over. Much more than the 9:1 ratio you're trying to say. Now that i think of it, with frost out of the way, what spell would effect her? Thats really the only weapon she had, and its negated by flame crystals



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Fight 1: Leliana. Sten is going to be tired out after a fight with Loghain and he's lugging around heaver equipment which is going to weigh him down. Leliana, meanwhile, is quick, nimble, and has a better ranged game.

 

Fight 2: Morrigan. Shale just had to beat a 300+ year old blood mage keeper. I imagine she's pretty torn up. Morrigan just has to take her time. Use some minor healing to take care of small wounds and shape shifting to get out of reach and recover stamina. It might take a while but I see Morrigan getting the win.


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by way shale older then Zathrian
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You say you strongly disagree but just look at what you're saying, Sten, someone literally born into a warrior society given only one role (to be a soldier) loses 7 times out of 3 to a girl whose primary strength is espionage. Where is it said that he is slow and straight forward? This guy is seen in the eyes of the QUnari (the prime military machine of thedas) as being superior to all others in his field, that implies that he can deal with a single rouge in which he has far more years of experience than. "Sten never see's it coming"...Asala disagrees with that notion. Leliana isnt renown for her ability to go toe to toe and a bow alone will not win her this fight. The best Leliana can hope for is using her bow and as i said before, that advantage only lasts as long as it takes him to get from Point A to Point B,

 

You've assumed she doesnt have any crystals that would negate that brittling effect, a flame crystal will fix that problem easily, Morrigan does have a chance i will admit but ice spells wouldve been the best weapon without those crystals, all it takes for Shale is to get one hand on her and its over. Much more than the 9:1 ratio you're trying to say. Now that i think of it, with frost out of the way, what spell would effect her? Thats really the only weapon she had, and its negated by flame crystals

 

Sten has shown to be impatient. As much as I enjoy his character, he isn't as cunning or perceptive as other fighters we've encountered. We know Leliana isn't just talented in espionage...she stood side by side with the warden battling darkspawn (and others) for a year. She has a varied fighting style, and is very adaptive. I'm not saying it's a definite victory, but the only time(s) I ever seen Sten winning is when he either gets her with a really powerful well placed blow from Asala, or successfully dodgers her "one-two hit" and retaliates (which mind you, isn't very likely/often). I can see Leliana winning in several ways. So I feel my 7:3 victory is justified, Leliana does have an edge in my opinion. If this battle was against Alistair, Loghain, or Aveline...that'd be a different story. It does not matter that he is the Arishok, as honorable it is, it's just a title. And titles don't win battles (as the previous Arishok can tell you).

 

As for Shale, if there's one thing we learned from playing role-playing games, especially Dragon Age, it's that resistances can be negated through debuffing. Morrigan excels in entropic magic, and can negate any magical (and physical) resistance Shale has from these crystals she may or may not have. Also, it's not as if Shale resists the brittling effect from being resistant to cold damage. She'll take less damage from cold spells, but she won't resist the brittling/freezing effect. This is proven in DA:O and DA:2, where enemies who are immune to cold damage can still be frozen/brittled from winter's grasp/cone of cold. As for what other spells can be effective besides cold against Shale; any one of them could. Once Shale is debuffed and brittled, any of the magics could obliterate her- fire, lightening, spirit, nature, whichever. She'll be total weak to withstand it.

 

You seem to understand where I'm coming from with my decisions. Indeed I am assuming on things, but isn't that the rules of the game? At least I provide logical/fair explanations for all my choices. This is, after all, up to creative interpretations. Though I do admit, some choices are easier to make/justify than others.



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Im not sure where people are getting the notion that Leliana will just stand there while Sten decapitates/cuts her in half.... At best that swing will hit a limb while she attempts to dodge. Im just saying... win or loose, Leliana is too cunning to stand there dumbfounded while someone swings a giant sword at her head.


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