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[Aggie Punbot]

I recently had my hard drive melt and I began the painful process of reinstalling all of my programs and games. Unfortunately, the ISP I have to use gives me a service that limits me to 90Gb of bandwidth per month before I have to pay through the nose for each additional Mb used. While this was not an issue when I reinstalled DAO and DA2, it occurred to me that it may be a big problem for DAI in the future if I am forced to download the game through Origin.

 

Does anyone know if we will be given the option to install directly from the disc instead of downloading through Origin?

[Samahl]

Why wouldn't we be? Is there a precedent for this that I'm not aware of?

[katerinafm]

Of course it's going to be installable through the disc if you have bought a disc. Why would physical discs be available for purchase if that wasn't the case? O.o

[Aggie Punbot]

Just wanted to confirm and not take anything for granted, just in case.

 

ETA: I could have sworn that I've bought discs for games that make you download them from a game client, but I can't recall which they were right now.

[Kroitz]

Of course it's going to be installable through the disc if you have bought a disc. Why would physical discs be available for purchase if that wasn't the case? O.o

 

That a disc is included, does not mean the game data itself is on said disc. It simply could be an installer for the Origin service.

[katerinafm]

That a disc is included, does not mean the game data itself is on said disc. It simply could be an installer for the Origin service.

 

That would be really silly. You'd buy an entire disc for a program that's around 10 Mbs? And then require you to download a game? Why not download the program from the internet right away then if it won't have the game you're buying?

 

Either way, it wasn't the case for previous games that required Origin (like ME3), so there's no reason for that to change now.

 

Are you thinking about games that have constant MMO like updates? Because MMOs have discs but still require a large download afterwards (like GW2).

[Aggie Punbot]

That would be really silly. You'd buy an entire disc for a program that's around 10 Mbs? And then require you to download a game? Why not download the program from the internet right away then if it won't have the game you're buying?

 

Either way, it wasn't the case for previous games that required Origin (like ME3), so there's no reason for that to change now.

 

Are you thinking about games that have constant MMO like updates? Because MMOs have discs but still require a large download afterwards (like GW2).

Regarding part 1: in my original post I stated that I have a limited amount of bandwidth per month, and if Maker forbid that my computer melts down again, I will have to be extremely careful about what I restore and in what order to make sure I don't exceed my monthly limit. So yes, installing directly from a disc is the optimal option for me.

 

As for the second part, more game companies are going with the online activation route (and some of them require constant connection even for single player games); I am not going to take what they've done in the past for granted, as EA Games could very well change their mind at any point and decide that requiring a download from their servers is the way to combat piracy.  This is why I am asking for official confirmation.

[Samahl]

Regarding part 1: in my original post I stated that I have a limited amount of bandwidth per month, and if Maker forbid that my computer melts down again, I will have to be extremely careful about what I restore and in what order to make sure I don't exceed my monthly limit. So yes, installing directly from a disc is the optimal option for me.

 

As for the second part, more game companies are going with the online activation route (and some of them require constant connection even for single player games); I am not going to take what they've done in the past for granted, as EA Games could very well change their mind at any point and decide that requiring a download from their servers is the way to combat piracy.  This is why I am asking for official confirmation.

As I understand it, you'll have to go online once to connect your game to your Origin, but after that point, you can do it all offline. They haven't said anything about where exactly you download it from, but I presume it'll be from the disc itself.

[katerinafm]

Regarding part 1: in my original post I stated that I have a limited amount of bandwidth per month, and if Maker forbid that my computer melts down again, I will have to be extremely careful about what I restore and in what order to make sure I don't exceed my monthly limit. So yes, installing directly from a disc is the optimal option for me.

 

As for the second part, more game companies are going with the online activation route (and some of them require constant connection even for single player games); I am not going to take what they've done in the past for granted, as EA Games could very well change their mind at any point and decide that requiring a download from their servers is the way to combat piracy.  This is why I am asking for official confirmation.

 

What the commenter above me said. You'll have to go online once to activate the game. You'll also need to go online once to get your 'World State' from the Keep (as I understand it it'll also be a one time thing, then your world state will be saved in your DAI save).

[Aggie Punbot]

What the commenter above me said. You'll have to go online once to activate the game. You'll also need to go online once to get your 'World State' from the Keep (as I understand it it'll also be a one time thing, then your world state will be saved in your DAI save).

Both of those are reasonable and completely doable. As long as I can install from the disc, I will be one happy inquisitor.

[Devtek]

There might be a day one patch as well. I doubt it would take up too much of your bandwidth cap.  (I'm so glad I am on an unlimited plan now, pay through the teeth for it in Toronto but instead of paying per MB...its a fair trade off)

[In Exile]

There might be a day one patch as well. I doubt it would take up too much of your bandwidth cap.  (I'm so glad I am on an unlimited plan now, pay through the teeth for it in Toronto but instead of paying per MB...its a fair trade off)

 

Getting an unlimited plan in Canada is a nightmare. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

Getting an unlimited plan in Canada is a nightmare. 

I wasn't aware of any Canadian ISPs that even offered one.

 

That said, I don't think I've come close to my limit since my ISP raised it to 500 GB/month.

[Aggie Punbot]

SIM CITY.

 

That's the one!

[brewers299]

Had the same with Mass Effect 3.Bought a physical copy of the game but I still had to download the full game through origin.The disc was a complete waste.

[AlanC9]

This issue has popped up on Steam a few times too. It seems silly for a dev to waste their own bandwidth that way, let alone the customer's.

[wolfsite]

If the disc is for a digital download version it will state clearly on the box that no game is included and that you are purchasing an online activation........ well unless it's for a Steam game I got burned a few times from games that use Steamworks, but all EA based games that are digital download they have put a notice on the box stating it is (Sim City expansion one example)

[brewers299]

My disc had all the files of the game on it.I copied all of the files from the disc to the game instalation folder so i didnt had to download the game.

[AlanC9]

If the disc is for a digital download version it will state clearly on the box that no game is included and that you are purchasing an online activation........ well unless it's for a Steam game I got burned a few times from games that use Steamworks, but all EA based games that are digital download they have put a notice on the box stating it is (Sim City expansion one example)

This is the thing I really don't get. I can see doing it by mistake -- defaulting a Steam install to internet rather than the disk doesn't seem to actually be deliberate. But why sell a disk that doesn't do anything?

[Weltea]

 

 

Does anyone know if we will be given the option to install directly from the disc instead of downloading through Origin?

I hope so. But I'm pretty sure I had to download ME3 despite having bought the physical copy, so I can see that happening again. 

Which is super annoying of course even without the bandwidth problem because it means waiting until your disc finally arrives and then waiting while it slowly downloads...

And I have to buy the disc,otherwise Origin won't let me switch languages

[ladyoflate]

This is the thing I really don't get. I can see doing it by mistake -- defaulting a Steam install to internet rather than the disk doesn't seem to actually be deliberate. But why sell a disk that doesn't do anything?

 

Hey, sometimes I only have access to cash, instead of any sort of digital form of money. Although a receipt code works just as well as a disc and is cheaper.

[AlanC9]

Hey, sometimes I only have access to cash, instead of any sort of digital form of money. Although a receipt code works just as well as a disc and is cheaper.

I meant that I couldn't figure out why the companies do it. They're already putting a DVD on the shelves -- I guess because they don't want to just sell empty boxes in the stores. So why not save their own bandwidth and install from the thing.

[ladyoflate]

the solution should be either that or have the useless discs be made out of, like, chocolate.

[ManOfSteel]

Buy the game on disc and you can install it via the disc. With Origin handling authentication, allowing you to install the game without first downloading it is the only purpose the disc serves. Just remember that Origin automatically updates your installed games, so keep an eye on the potential update sizes.