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[CMdrShep93]

What do you think about the Mass Effect universe? Do you think it is boring? Do you think the universe should be expanded with animated movies/shows and comic books? For some strange reason despite all its flaws I thought the first Mass Effect back in 2007 was incredible. I wonder why I thought that.

[Schmonozov]

The universe is fine, some lore is abit silly tho. Would've been a waste if Mass effect 3 was the final game.

[DaryAlexV]

The most wonderful universe I ever saw. With the most incredible creatures.

[fchopin]

The mass effect universe was good when the first game was made but then it changed as it made all the different alien races in to mindless and entitled creatures without the ability to think for themselves.

They accepted the technology they found and did not even investigate how it worked or why it was there. They let robots fix the citadel without even following them to investigate the secrets.
In the new mass effect universe i want to see different alien races exploring our galaxy and not just use a few gates they found like zombies without a mind.

[tehturian]

The universe told within the games is pretty great. Aside from a couple of novels however, Bioware have more or less crapped out on any expanded universe attempts. 

[Dubozz]

I think it's ruined after ME3 ending.

[Heimdall]

I've become less enthused about it after the original game. Ever since ME2 it feels like they've been trying to turn it into Star Wars.

[Vortex13]

I love the Mass Effect universe and its myriad of species and colorful characters, granted the series has had its share of flaws, but then again so has every other successful franchise.

 

IMO, ME is one of the more nuanced, and interesting (mainstream) sic-fi settings that I have had the pleasure of taking part in.

 

 

I've become less enthused about it after the original game. Ever since ME2 it feels like they've been trying to turn it into Star Wars.

 

I don't know if I would go that far   At least in ME (for the most part) all the powers and abilities are on an even footing, and every person in the setting is roughly balanced with each other (foregoing plot armor, and "special snowflake" characters).

 

Star Wars essentially says that if you don't have the Force or are Boba Fett, then you pretty much suck at everything; after reading about the fifth novel, with the Force sensitive trainee wiping out a squad of veteran soldiers without breaking a sweat, I kinda lost interest in the setting.

 

I detest the notion of OP Jedi that seems to be running rampant throughout the current cannon, I prefer WH40K to Star Wars; at least everything in the grim dark future is OP, instead of just one thing 

[HARBINGER SR-1]

I've become less enthused about it after the original game. Ever since ME2 it feels like they've been trying to turn it into Star Wars.

Yea, it feels like the Omni-Blade was their answer to the Lightsabre (But no where near as cool).

[Ajensis]

The universe started out great, but for each sequel it just became smaller and smaller. You keep meeting the same handful of people over and over among billions of potential NPCs

 

I still love it, though. Places like the Citadel and Illium, or uninhabited worlds, or simply walking around the Normandy or boarding another starship, complete with the sense of alien civilisations and systems and cultures. They just need to make it a little more believable again instead of going for 'Aww, it's Bailey again, I loved that dude!'.

[Farangbaa]

The universe started out great, but for each sequel it just became smaller and smaller. You keep meeting the same handful of people over and over among billions of potential NPCs

 

Yeah.. and everybody knows everybody. Like the MEU is somekind of town

[Heimdall]

I love the Mass Effect universe and its myriad of species and colorful characters, granted the series has had its share of flaws, but then again so has every other successful franchise.

 

IMO, ME is one of the more nuanced, and interesting (mainstream) sic-fi settings that I have had the pleasure of taking part in.

 

 

 

I don't know if I would go that far   At least in ME (for the most part) all the powers and abilities are on an even footing, and every person in the setting is roughly balanced with each other (foregoing plot armor, and "special snowflake" characters).

 

Star Wars essentially says that if you don't have the Force or are Boba Fett, then you pretty much suck at everything; after reading about the fifth novel, with the Force sensitive trainee wiping out a squad of veteran soldiers without breaking a sweat, I kinda lost interest in the setting.

 

I detest the notion of OP Jedi that seems to be running rampant throughout the current cannon, I prefer WH40K to Star Wars; at least everything in the grim dark future is OP, instead of just one thing 

I meant more in the way the galaxy has been developing.  Like others have said, the galaxy has been getting smaller.  Its been more about space criminals fighting space gunfights in space cities than the sort of hard scifi grittier exploratory almost frontier feel of the first game.

[Vortex13]

I meant more in the way the galaxy has been developing.  Like others have said, the galaxy has been getting smaller.  Its been more about space criminals fighting space gunfights in space cities than the sort of hard scifi grittier exploratory almost frontier feel of the first game.

 

 

Ah, I see. Well in that case I agree with you (and the others making that point), I thought you were referring to the power levels between the people of the setting. The fact that everyone seems to know everyone else on a first name basis in a galaxy that is less then 1% explored does make the setting feel a whole lot smaller.

 

I would also submit the fact that the more 'alien' aliens of the setting (Rachni, Elcor, Hanar, etc.) being pushed to the side, ignored, or flat out made into comedic caricatures would be another thing I hold against the series as it moved forward. In future titles I would like to see more of these distinctly alien cultures, and species brought back into the limelight (and with a serious tone); and I am holding out for something like a playable Rachni (if not in SP then in MP).

 

When I go into a science fiction world, I go there looking for the alien/unknown side of the universe; not so much on how humanity is doing in the galactic scene, or how human like all the other major species are. 

[xAmilli0n]

The universe started out great, but for each sequel it just became smaller and smaller. You keep meeting the same handful of people over and over among billions of potential NPCs

 

 

That's an interesting way of putting it.  It is huge with potential, but we kinda got shunted into a small part of it (which is fine considering the focus of the games).

 

I think the ME universe is still interesting, but I'm more interested in new things at the moment.  They would have to impress me quite a bit to get me back to the enthusiasm I had when playing ME1.

[dreamgazer]

Still enjoyable and still alive, despite a handful of naysayers.

 

The Reaper plot did limit one's ability to just explore and relish the universe, though, and ME2 led everything in an incredibly unfortunate direction with a side-villain distraction, "Ah yes, Reapers", and an intentional two-year jump that rebooted the narrative off-screen and forced the plot towards resolving squad members' personal issues.  With the Reapers dealt with and all that narrative baggage behind them, the story now has room to breathe and stretch its legs.  

 

Here's hoping BioWare takes the opportunity to do so by "moving forward". 

[SwobyJ]

What do you think about the Mass Effect universe? Do you think it is boring? Do you think the universe should be expanded with animated movies/shows and comic books? For some strange reason despite all its flaws I thought the first Mass Effect back in 2007 was incredible. I wonder why I thought that.

 

Universe is up for a huge expansion, while at the same time an exploration of lands we've already been introduced to.

 

I don't think it is boring, but some areas are always up for improvement.

 

I don't really care about animated movies or shows, and I feel they weaken the brand for the most part. Comic books ehhhhhh.

 

I agree with others that the expanded universe is kinda junk compared to the main games. They don't seem to get the right, or enough attention.

 

I don't think that the ME3 has necessarily ruined anything. We'll have to wait and see.

 

I was most enthused about Mass Effect with ME2, even as I consider ME1 to have the best main plot. I'd love more of ME2 to come back, but with a much more next generation evolution of the series.

[CMdrShep93]

Universe is up for a huge expansion, while at the same time an exploration of lands we've already been introduced to.

 

I don't think it is boring, but some areas are always up for improvement.

 

I don't really care about animated movies or shows, and I feel they weaken the brand for the most part. Comic books ehhhhhh.

 

I agree with others that the expanded universe is kinda junk compared to the main games. They don't seem to get the right, or enough attention.

 

I don't think that the ME3 has necessarily ruined anything. We'll have to wait and see.

 

I was most enthused about Mass Effect with ME2, even as I consider ME1 to have the best main plot. I'd love more of ME2 to come back, but with a much more next generation evolution of the series.

 

I agree any attempts that expand the ME universe should be of higher quality. As for animated movies it won't weaken the brand if it is of great quality. I wasn't a fan of Mass Effect Paragon Lost but I would really like something that would do the universe justice. I don't think GI Joe Resolute weakened the GI Joe brand. It was an darker more adult take on the GI Joe universe.

 

 

And I agree with you on ME2. Although I thought the first Mass Effect had the best storyline I thought ME2 gave us a more detailed look at the ME universe.

[Drone223]

I meant more in the way the galaxy has been developing.  Like others have said, the galaxy has been getting smaller.  Its been more about space criminals fighting space gunfights in space cities than the sort of hard scifi grittier exploratory almost frontier feel of the first game.

Less than 1% of the galaxy has been explored the are countless stories waiting to be told.

[Heimdall]

Less than 1% of the galaxy has been explored the are countless stories waiting to be told.

You wouldn't know it by the way ME has been handling its galaxy.

[Vortex13]

You wouldn't know it by the way ME has been handling its galaxy.

 

That's true.

 

Although another way of looking at it could be at how unexplored the galaxy is. Most of the action in the games is in small, densely populated areas (galactically speaking). It would stand to reason that familiar faces would be gathered around the same watering hole (so to speak).

[Drone223]

You wouldn't know it by the way ME has been handling its galaxy.

We only explored a tiny fraction of the galaxy in the trilogy, there are many stories to be told by exploring the remaining 99%.

[Heimdall]

We only explored a tiny fraction of the galaxy in the trilogy, there are many stories to be told by exploring the remaining 99%.

...You're really missing the point of my post, aren't you?

[Drone223]

...You're really missing the point of my post, aren't you?

trying avoid the issue's of the trilogy isn't the best way to deal with them and will probably hurt them in the future, it's better to deal with them sooner rather than later so they can go foward with the franchise.

[KotorEffect3]

Pretty well developed and fascinating universe especially considering just how young the IP is.  Interesting to see where they will expand upon it from here on out.

[AlanC9]

I meant more in the way the galaxy has been developing.  Like others have said, the galaxy has been getting smaller.  Its been more about space criminals fighting space gunfights in space cities than the sort of hard scifi grittier exploratory almost frontier feel of the first game.

You're muddling up some unrelated issues there. Whether a game is hard scifi or not has nothing to do with whether it's set on the frontier, and being on the frontier doesn't necessarily mean exploration. We don't explore on Virmire, for instance.