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[andy6915]

Some people on here think that Wrex and Eve won't be able to keep control seeing as fertile females can have up to a thousand children a year. But the thing is, the genophage wasn't cured. Well it was... But it wasn't. The way the cure worked, as I understand it, is that it forced glands in the Krogans body that don't have any real purpose to start doing the job of the glands that the genophage attacks. That means that while they have glands that allow them to be fertile now, the genophage is still there and is still attacking the same reproduction glands it always has. Let me repeat that, the genophage is still there and is still destroying reproduction capabilities in those glands.

 

Now what does that mean? It means they're not immune to future genophages. All they would need to do is once again update it, making it so it attacks the new glands the "cure" made. Spreading it will be harder without the shroud, but Mordin already showed you can do it the hard way when he spread the old 2.0 version of it through more basic methods like clan watering areas and such. So all the cure is merely us giving them a chance to prove they can be trusted this time. And if they don't prove they can be trusted then making a new genophage, or even a true sterilization of 0 possible births anymore, would be more than possible. As Wrex said, he knows that another Krogan rebellion will just result in the Council doing something even worse than the genophage if they mess up again. Wrex is a smart one, he knows that getting out of line again will likely result in a true genocide that time.

[Excella Gionne]

No offense, but I was hoping to see a Genophage thread two months from when the last one occurred. I'm too tired to debate right now.

[KaiserShep]

I'd say that the likeliest outcome, assuming they decide to war again, is that if/when their population explodes, they will first turn on each other as clans fight for resources, territory, etc.. Since they're demilitarized and don't have a fleet of their own to leave the planet in large numbers, they're pretty much confined there for a long time, and until they can manage to wrangle ships of their own, they'd be culling their own numbers in warfare. The turians and salarians will just watch from a safe distance in orbit, preparing to make sure that the krogan never leave Tuchanka in any sizable numbers ever.

 

Of course, this doesn't take into account the krogan's petition for colonization rights, but if they backslide in the slightest, I can see that being pulled away very quickly.

[andy6915]

Of course, this doesn't take into account the krogan's petition for colonization rights.

 

Which they would deserve. As Shepard says to Allers, the Krogan went to the support of a council race, and helped more in the war than the Asari or Salarians did. I'd say that's worth some colonies. It's if they try to take colonies owned by other nations and species that we'll have a problem.

[Excella Gionne]

I'd say that the likeliest outcome, assuming they decide to war again, is that if/when their population explodes, they will first turn on each other as clans fight for resources, territory, etc.. Since they're demilitarized and don't have a fleet of their own to leave the planet in large numbers, they're pretty much confined there for a long time, and until they can manage to wrangle ships of their own, they'd be culling their own numbers in warfare. The turians and salarians will just watch from a safe distance in orbit, preparing to make sure that the krogan never leave Tuchanka in any sizable numbers ever.

 

Of course, this doesn't take into account the krogan's petition for colonization rights, but if they backslide in the slightest, I can see that being pulled away very quickly.

It just kind of tells you how flaw some of the particular scenarios can play out. Wreav thinks he's gonna strike hard back at the galaxy, but he only has strategies for attacking, not preparing. Their demilitarization can almost be impossible to wipe off since Tuchanka has scarce resources. 

 

It is shown in the EC slides that the krogans do live among the other races peacefully as they rebuild their homeworld if the genophage was cured and Wrex is alive to lead the krogan as their hero(Eve or not, the outcome is the same).

[Excella Gionne]

Which they would deserve. As Shepard says to Allers, the Krogan went to the support of a council race, and helped more in the war than the Asari or Salarians did. I'd say that's worth some colonies. It's if they try to take colonies owned by other nations and species that we'll have a problem.

The thing about the whole colonizing planets is what first started the whole Krogan Rebellions. Krogans expanded a lot and they eventually overpopulated those worlds that they claimed. If krogans can set up policies on how many children they can have, it can lessen the casualties they cause upon worlds they inhabit. Since they have long lifespans, resources can get drained pretty darn fast. Their fertility rates combined with their lifespans makes them broken, and it is a wonder how Tuchanka isn't even unlivable yet.

[KaiserShep]

Which they would deserve. As Shepard says to Allers, the Krogan went to the support of a council race, and helped more in the war than the Asari or Salarians did. I'd say that's worth some colonies. It's if they try to take colonies owned by other nations and species that we'll have a problem.

It's not really so much a matter of deserve, but rather if they can be trusted with such privileges, considering that they're a considerably high risk group. In the position of the Council, I'd only grant them colonization rights to a single planet (temporarily, but considering how long krogan live, it would be for quite a few decades), and insist that they take steps to prevent overcrowding, because they can't simply get whatever number of planets they want, for obvious reasons. In the position of the turians, I'd probably conceive ways to put the krogan down for good in the event that they want to repeat history.

[Fixers0]

But it's be better to be safe than sorry.

[andy6915]

But it's be better to be safe than sorry.

Better to be safe and sorry for what? Not giving them new colonies even after being the only reason Palaven was still standing? BS.

[David Selig]

I have always felt that it is very contrived that the Krogans are a major threat to the galaxy. Sure, they are very tough in a ground fight, but so what? This is no help at all in a battle between space ships and this is by far the most important thing in this setting. They lack the research base, the scientists and the economic potential to threaten the main powers and it is not in their nature to focus on these things, they like fighting too much. Large population of really tough individual soldiers doesn't automatically mean the best army. The turian, human, asari and salarian fleets should be so much more advanced and bigger in size that they should crush the Krogans with ease with or without the genophage.