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[Sylvius the Mad]

Not to be a negative nancy here but I don't like it when games pack so much content in them. I prefer smaller more polished experiences. When I see games like Witcher 3 or DAI brag about their game length, it makes me groan. I've never in my life played a game that's over 50 hours that either

1.) Has great pacing throughout

or

2.) Lacks an untold amount of filler content that's boring

It's a bad tradition in RPGs I'd like to see changed someday. I don't think any game needs a main story over around 25 hours because I've never played a game past that point that had good pacing throughout. 25 hours seems like the sweet spot for me in a game because I think all that needs to be told can be done at that point. It's not something that's going to make or break a game for me, I'm just saying I prefer shorter more compact and polished experiences. I want everything to feel meaningful including all the side content. I don't want to run around and do Fed-Ex quests that go from point A to B to deliver dirty socks and they really have no impact on your world, story or environment. If I'm going to do a bunch of side content that has no impact on story, then I want it to revolve around Thedas. I want each quest to feel meaningful and expand on the lore in Thedas. Discover new ruins about an ancient civilization that no longer exists or something like that. It doesn't have to deal with our main stories because it's side content. I'd take less quests for more meaningful experiences like this.

At least it will have a ton of content to mow through. I'm sure the main story will satisfy me plenty even if it does have pacing problems like DAO ran into. The side content is optional, so hopefully I run into some activities I really enjoy. All that being said, I'm going to love this game.

Pacing isn't the designers' job. Pacing is my job as I craft my character's story in the world they've provided.

So I'm pretty pleased with the prospect of there being this much content to explore.

Also, I don't think a 25 hour game offers enough scope to plausibly support the power curve BioWare seems to like these days. If my character is going to advance from average peasant to god-killing abomination, I need more than 25 hours of play to justify that.

That's partly why I like BG so much. After 80 hours of game, you were level 8. In D&D terms, you were a moderately experienced adventurer.

[wetnasty]

Him calling Morrigan "Morgana" and saying he's asking a not common question, then asking a question that had been answered 100s of times before, makes me think he probably isn't as much of a DA fan as he wants us to believe. 

 

I want a good interview where we get some new info. No offense to him. 

[Heimdall]

I don't think Origins ever took me upwards of 60 hours to complete, and that's doing all side quests.

[Vilegrim]

Tactical cam still looks like it is only on pause... do not want to be in 'action mode' EVER, despise the animations, so never want ot have to look at them.

[Herr Uhl]

Tactical cam still looks like it is only on pause... do not want to be in 'action mode' EVER, despise the animations, so never want ot have to look at them.

They've said that you can play it in top down mode real time.

[Gnoster]

Tactical cam still looks like it is only on pause... do not want to be in 'action mode' EVER, despise the animations, so never want ot have to look at them.

 

In the Polygon interview Mark Darrah said you could play the entire game in tactical mode (except ofcourse cinematic conversations would change the view). However Giant Bomb mentioned in an E3 video of theirs, that unpausing the game while in tactical mode required you to continuously hold a button on the controller (referenced a combat scenario), so at the moment it is really anyone's guess as to how the mechanic functions precisely.

[JoltDealer]

I greatly enjoy Angry Joe's work.  Even if he gets caught up in doing silly things occasionally, he's always pretty fair with his reviews.  His only flaw is being anti-games industry, treating them as fanservice machines instead of the businesses that employ thousands and therefore have to worry about turning a profit.  Either way, it's hard not to love a game journalist that puts gamers first.

 

Great interview despite asking about Morgana...twice.  I am really looking forward to the game.

[Heimdall]

Him calling Morrigan "Morgana" and saying he's asking a not common question, then asking a question that had been answered 100s of times before, makes me think he probably isn't as much of a DA fan as he wants us to believe. 

 

I want a good interview where we get some new info. No offense to him. 

I know he did a review of DA2 (No idea about DAO), but he may not be up to date on all DAI info.

[CronoDragoon]

In the Polygon interview Mark Darrah said you could play the entire game in tactical mode (except ofcourse cinematic conversations would change the view). However Giant Bomb mentioned in an E3 video of theirs, that unpausing the game while in tactical mode required you to continuously hold a button on the controller (referenced a combat scenario), so at the moment it is really anyone's guess as to how the mechanic functions precisely.

 

That's with a controller, though. My understanding is that the big difference will come using KB&M and that you can play tactically continuously with that. I may be mistaken, though.

 

There's also this mysterious Engage Mode we've only heard a bit about, but it sounded like you could turn the battle system into something almost turn-based like the pause-after-round options in Baldur's Gate. We'll see.

 

If they do an interview where they say "isometric can be permanent with KB&M, Friendly Fire can be toggled, Pause-after-round is a thing" I think all the old-school cRPG fanatics will cream themselves.

[lady_v23]

I like angry joe.  I became a fan when I saw his glorious review of "Ride To Hell".  anyways, that was a great interview.  I specially like the 20 dragons part

[Gnoster]

What the Witcher fans do not seem to realize is that by insulting others and resorting to ad hominem attacks, they are merely tainting the image of CD Projekt and turning off potential fans to their franchise.
 
I've wanted to get into the Witcher games for years, but after reading a thousand or more Youtube comments by these ass clowns, all I can picture is this when I think of Geralt:

To be fair stuff like that also happen the other way around, there are "fanatics" in every camp unfortunately, and it happens for other games as well, I mean look at Call of Duty versus Battlefield. Just ignore those kind of people and don't let them rule which games you play, as you really are missing out on the witcher, just as they are on dragon age.

[teenparty]

I played The Witcher for an hour once and haaaaaaated it ... and I still think the "rivalry" is ridiculous. Some people will like one franchise, some the other, and plenty of people enjoy both. More CRPGs is a good thing for the genre, even if that particular series is not to my personal taste.

I've played both Witcher game about four times each and I still hate them. The terrible script, the strange gameplay mechanics, horrible voiceactors, silly or bland graphics - the list goes on. Problem is they grow on you. They are both long fantasy games with engaging stories and plenty of story choices.

[dutch_gamer]

To be fair stuff like that also happen the other way around, there are "fanatics" in every camp unfortunately, and it happens for other games as well, I mean look at Call of Duty versus Battlefield. Just ignore those kind of people and don't let them rule which games you play, as you really are missing out on the witcher, just as they are on dragon age.

Not to mention youtube comments are never any good. If I would base playing a game on youtube comments I would have to stop being a gamer all together.

[AkiKishi]

People read youtube comments? 

[Fast Jimmy]

Yea. It's subjective. It's not something that bothers me TOO much because I'm use to it in RPGs. All I'm saying is I wish someone would come along and realize why do I need a game this big? It's like Skyrim and all that content. I'm pretty sure if they cut that game down by 50% in content and made it a much more polished game in areas like dragon encounters or level design for dungeons or side quests it would've made more people happy. Is anyone seriously asking for a thousand hours of content in a game? Has anyone ever beat all content in Skyrim? The answer is probably yes but I'll bet that number is very small lol.
 
I think what Cameron was trying to say is you have the potential of that much content between main/side. So, 150 hours is actually half that based on diverging paths of your choices? At least, that's how I interpreted his comments. If it's like that then I'm fine by it because this adds a lot of replay value to a game for me. If it's a straight 50 hour experience with another 100 hours content on the side every single time you go through even with diverging paths I can see myself going through this game less than any other DA game. I simply do not have that kind of time on my hands as much as I want to lol.

I would like a game that has 150 hours of content, but I also share the concern that it simply is content that involves walking around 99% empty areas, killing generic enemies and completing fetch quests.

A game that can be beaten in 20-40 hours, but has replay value such that you can get a different experience five times you play it is something I've seemed to enjoy. With higher productions costs, though, most developers find it better to highly polish 15 hours of a game and fill it with various amounts of side content or open world. I'd take a game with much less polish, but wildly divergent content that is choice based, personally.

[Maverick827]

Oh look, it's Angry Joe believing himself to be an authority on a game about which he can't even get basic facts right. What a surprise. This is sarcasm.

[Kidd]

In the Polygon interview Mark Darrah said you could play the entire game in tactical mode (except ofcourse cinematic conversations would change the view). However Giant Bomb mentioned in an E3 video of theirs, that unpausing the game while in tactical mode required you to continuously hold a button on the controller (referenced a combat scenario), so at the moment it is really anyone's guess as to how the mechanic functions precisely.

Mike Laidlaw told me this on twitter:

Consoles should support both auto-attack and manual press. Also, Tactical view is always auto-attack.

Which also automatically confirms that yes, you can have animated time while in tactical view.

 

What the Witcher fans do not seem to realize is that by insulting others and resorting to ad hominem attacks, they are merely tainting the image of CD Projekt and turning off potential fans to their franchise.

So much this. I feel pretty immature when I think about it, but I truly have started associating general bad and obnoxious behaviour with the title "the Witcher." Which is not something the game has deserved for even a second on its own, since I don't own either title. I've sat on Origin thinking of picking TW2 up a few times, but it just never feels right. I'm pretty sure the loud portion of the fanbase who feels the need to put down any- and everything not the Witcher has a great deal to do with that gut feeling.

I mean sure, I know the set protagonist is something I don't dig as much as getting to create my own, but that's hardly a deal-breaker for other games so it really can't be just that.

[CronoDragoon]

So much this. I feel pretty immature when I think about it, but I truly have started associating general bad and obnoxious behaviour with the title "the Witcher." Which is not something the game has deserved for even a second on its own, since I don't own either title. I've sat on Origin thinking of picking TW2 up a few times, but it just never feels right. I'm pretty sure the loud portion of the fanbase who feels the need to put down any- and everything not the Witcher has a great deal to do with that gut feeling.

I mean sure, I know the set protagonist is something I don't dig as much as getting to create my own, but that's hardly a deal-breaker for other games so it really can't be just that.

 

It's on sale for the Steam Summer Sale right now for $4. Perhaps Dragon Age fans recommending it will help?

 

It's a great game. Very easy to enjoy without needing to compare it to Dragon Age. And for the price of a cheeseburger!

[Aran Linvail]

I think The Witcher its a amanzing game , and i think Dragon Age Origins its epic , but make no mistake guys , the best RPG is and always will be:

 

Baldur's Gate  

 

So , now that we made things clear , you dont need to fight anymore , good interview by the way.

[Elhanan]

While I choose to take a pass on TW2 personally due to content and some possible mechanics, getting TW series on GOG goes right to the team, and also allows for a larger dsct for pre=orders on TW3.

[Das Tentakel]

To be fair stuff like that also happen the other way around, there are "fanatics" in every camp unfortunately, and it happens for other games as well, I mean look at Call of Duty versus Battlefield. Just ignore those kind of people and don't let them rule which games you play, as you really are missing out on the witcher, just as they are on dragon age.

 

Correct. Both sides have their 'ultranationalists', who hate the other franchise / studio's guts, and feed the 'anti-' feelings of less extreme fans on the other side.

No side has a monopoly on stupidity.

By the way, the Witcher forums are, in my experiece, far less extreme than that guy sheppard wrote, although you can find some anti-opinions. The DA:I thread is actually mostly fairly mellow. As for the (reasoned) critical posts, I've seen more critical ones here and on 'neutral' forums.

 

“All good people agree,
And all good people say,
All nice people, like Us, are We
And every one else is They:
But if you cross over the sea,
Instead of over the way,
You may end by (think of it!) looking on We
As only a sort of They!”

 

If you really want to see people pour some vitriol all over BioWare, visit the RPG Codex or Something Awful. You might want to pour yourself a drink, though. 

[Killdren88]

Morgana! Morgana... Morgana? Who is she? LOLOL?

Give the guy a break. We all make mistakes. Plus with all the games he focuses on, he probably hasn't thought about Dragon Age since his DA2 review.

[KennethAFTopp]

Pretty smooth job by Cameron Lee avoiding Angry Joe's question about the criticism of Dragon Age 2.