I agree.
Did a build in DA2 using Spirit healer and heavy armor. You are unkillable but totally useless as ennemies are going pass you towards biggest damage dealers.
With all the sustainable required to make it work, you don' t even have enough mana left to press a button and something howsome happens ...
Yeah. That Duel with the Arishok lasted for two Eternities, using only Auto Attack.
Clearly, the best tree for tanking:
In one of the videos, when they are going through iron bulls skill trees, it says 2 hander AND sword and board.
Same for Sera, I saw dual daggers, and we have seen Sera use a bow.
SO, any warriors in our party can be tanks 
I want ranged tank. Like trooper\bh in SWTOR. heavy warrior with a x-bow and a set of ranged pulls and CCs....*sigh* a girl can dream, right....
Trooper/BH is not really a ranged tank, most of their "tanking" abilities require to be in "melee" range...
If you look at the three mage Companions, who else would it be - Solas is an Expert on the Fade, so he probably is this "Rift"-Thing, while Dorian as a Tevinter Magister will probably be a Necromancer, since it's implied that that's as bad as Blood Magic, or even related to it (plus, we've seen his Mentor in the Demon reanimating his Son - that's the Guy that got his Throat cut by Leliana). That leaves only Knight Enchater to Vivienne.
Do we actually have confirmation that each companion will correspond to a specialisation?
In one of the videos, when they are going through iron bulls skill trees, it says 2 hander AND sword and board.
Same for Sera, I saw dual daggers, and we have seen Sera use a bow.
SO, any warriors in our party can be tanks
Uh very nice, thanks for that bit of info, great news I think. I haven't seen any video yet where the skill trees where clear enough to be seen unfortunately
I just hope we have more than one tank.
One thing about DA2 was the tanking issue. I've just learned that Isabella could tank - didn't know that - but she's still squishy against single bosses. Aveline was the go-to tank....annnnd no one else. I really hated taking her along all the time. I think at one point I respec to a Spirit healer and brought Anders so there'd be double the heals. While Fenris did some tanking. That was..fine. A little hard with some of the bosses, but I was sick of seeing Avelines face.
All I'm saying is put more tanks in the game please. Maybe give the rogues a durable (not necessarily full defensive) build, and allow all the warriors access to the shield and sword tree. That'd be fantastic. Maybe have a party with two durable rogues and two mages or a mage and warrior (spec for damage). That'd be interesting 
I just hope we have more than one tank.
One thing about DA2 was the tanking issue. I've just learned that Isabella could tank - didn't know that - but she's still squishy against single bosses. Aveline was the go-to tank....annnnd no one else. I really hated taking her along all the time. I think at one point I respec to a Spirit healer and brought Anders so there'd be double the heals. While Fenris did some tanking. That was..fine. A little hard with some of the bosses, but I was sick of seeing Avelines face.
All I'm saying is put more tanks in the game please. Maybe give the rogues a durable (not necessarily full defensive) build, and allow all the warriors access to the shield and sword tree. That'd be fantastic. Maybe have a party with two durable rogues and two mages or a mage and warrior (spec for damage). That'd be interesting
I liked Aveline so I never really experimented with my tanks, but my friend used Merrill as a pretty darn effective tank. It sounds like you'd be able to spec just about any warrior as a decent tank, and Tempest sounds like something that could potentially make for a good dodge tank.
Evidence showed that Iron Bull was actually a Reaver in the demo. So actually no, according to the demo Companions won't have individual (and I use that term very loosely here) specializations like they did in DA:2.
i dont remember where this was said, but it has been confirmed somewhere, all characters have the ability to switch weapons, kind of like hawke in da2 could be both a ranged and daggers rogue (although you lose a lot of effectiveness by investing perks), they can change weapons from a two hander to sword and board, but i believe they are class specific, you cant have the iron bull dul wielding daggers, though we are unsure about duel wielding in general when it comes to the warrior class...
Trooper/BH is not really a ranged tank, most of their "tanking" abilities require to be in "melee" range...
Still, that's a tanking class that
1. wields ranged weapon
2. uses plenty of ranged medium\short distance skills (and yet 'short' is not 'melee', it's 4-10m), both tanking and CC.
3. uses CC-friendly 'harpoon', which is 'mob-to-self' pull (instantly pulling from the distance instead of leaping or charging into the crowd).
From what we've seen on early demos, there is supposed to be some sort of 'harpoon' thing. It'd be nice to have something like that. Now if they could only tie tanking skills to anything other than sword+shield....or (at least) allow warriors to use a x-bow....
Yeah. That Duel with the Arishok lasted for two Eternities, using only Auto Attack.
Those 'tactics' are true for many (if not all) classes and builds. Kiting '8' around the pillars waiting for CD to come...
Looks like it is all about the warrior for traditional tanking. Sounds like Champion will be the best overall. However, Knight Enchanters have protection magic, so probably can be tanky. Artificers have distracting tools, so they have tools that can help keep the attention of enemies, maybe. Tempest could be like the duelist, but instead of being very dodgy, Tempest sounds like the player just brings enemies in and then proceeds to blade storm, maybe. Necromancer could have a minion tank or whatever.
In one of the videos, when they are going through iron bulls skill trees, it says 2 hander AND sword and board.
Same for Sera, I saw dual daggers, and we have seen Sera use a bow.
SO, any warriors in our party can be tanks
I hope tanking continues to be optional.
If healing is more limited, then that may somewhat discourage traditional tanks. Without healing, sharing the damage around the party starts to look like a good idea.
Do we actually have confirmation that each companion will correspond to a specialisation?
No and officially we only know one per class too.
Arcane Warriors were unkillable, but a lack of aggro control didn't really make them good tanks.
Spirit Warrior then. THe other side of the coin with 56% reduced coolness factor.
If you look at the three mage Companions, who else would it be - Solas is an Expert on the Fade, so he probably is this "Rift"-Thing, while Dorian as a Tevinter Magister will probably be a Necromancer, since it's implied that that's as bad as Blood Magic, or even related to it (plus, we've seen his Mentor in the Demon reanimating his Son - that's the Guy that got his Throat cut by Leliana). That leaves only Knight Enchater to Vivienne.
Our companions do not have the same trees as us necessarily. Also, Vivienne doesn't sound like the person to wear armor and go up close and personal. She prefers fancy dresses and seems to be using a mage staff.
Our companions do not have the same trees as us necessarily. Also, Vivienne doesn't sound like the person to wear armor and go up close and personal. She prefers fancy dresses and seems to be using a mage staff.
That is true, obviously. But we don't know if Knight Enchanter works similar to the Arcane Warrior, either. I stand with my Opinion that she is the most likely Companion Mage to be the Knight Enchanter, but it remains to be seen, if our Companions have even the same Specializations available and if the Specializations work in the Way we expect them to.
Depends on your definition of tank. DA2 isn't big on the concept. Sure it has some shield wall toggle and taunt but hardly a specialized tank. Only character that can pull the "protect/support" role is Aveline. I hardly consider rogue in DAO a tank. Just because he can be more durable doesn't mean he is a tank. By that logic if you play on casual and spec mages with rock armor they are tanks as well.
In both DAO and DA2 every class can fill the meatshield role. You have to sacrifice something but you can pull it off easily. In dao the cheapest trick you can do is play a full caster mage and buy 1 point arcane warrior, use wade's armor and have 0 fatigue and lots of armor. In DA2 play a rogue, bring 2 rogues and have them spam obscurity skills on you, no physical attacks can kill you.
If you consider DAO rogue can fill the "tank" position, then there is a good chance you will have the same freedom in DAI cause it was that way in DA2. The build varies but is totally viable if you don't care about how big your breastplate is.
That is true, obviously. But we don't know if Knight Enchanter works similar to the Arcane Warrior, either. I stand with my Opinion that she is the most likely Companion Mage to be the Knight Enchanter, but it remains to be seen, if our Companions have even the same Specializations available and if the Specializations work in the Way we expect them to.
Indeed, there is always the possibility that Vivienne is a Knight Enchanter.
Just, i don't know, i guess i would expect a D&D clericky person, with heavy armor(that Mages can wear in DA:I), a non-staff melee weapon(or these "blades of arcane force", whatever they might be), to be "leading a charge into enemy ranks".
She might have her own tree, "Fabulous Mage", or something.
Indeed, there is always the possibility that Vivienne is a Knight Enchanter.
Just, i don't know, i guess i would expect a D&D clericky person, with heavy armor(that Mages can wear in DA:I), a non-staff melee weapon(or these "blades of arcane force", whatever they might be), to be "leading a charge into enemy ranks".
She might have her own tree, "Fabulous Mage", or something.
I'm of the opinion that knight enchanter will be summoned armor and weapons. Just because Viv doesn't wear armor doesn't mean she wouldn't summon up some magical armor to save her skin when need be. RP wise it also wouldn't be necessary for every knight enchanter to use weapons, she may be in it purely for the defense. Besides, to me it goes quite well with the "more than meets the eyes" vibe they have going for her.
Any warrior with appropriate talents. There will probably be a warrior tree not tied to a specialization that has talents sufficient for tanking. And that's probably what sane people will do: tank with a warrior that uses a shield. You will probably also be able to tank with a two-hander (no shield) as well. You've got plate. You probably have high HP. There will likely be tank-worthy talents that don't require shields.
And then there are the people that want to try things that may or may not work. And for them there's Knight-Enchanter and Tempest. So Knight-Enchanter is a different thing that probably fills the Arcane Warrior niche without being exactly the same thing. As a result, they might be able to tank as well. I sort of expect they will--at least on Normal and Easy and probably on Hard. Beyond that, who knows. Next up: Tempest. So that's probably the in-your-face rogue. The Blade. The Swashbuckler. So probably there are some avoidance skills in there. Will that be enough to keep it alive? I don't know.
Again, common sense says "Duh. Tank with a warrior." But maybe Knight-Enchanter and Tempest will work for people that like to experiment with the mechanics.
Hopefully we can build a 2 handed tank warrior again. Elf/Qunari blade master (warrior with Champion specialization) is calling.
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