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[SNascimento]

 

I'm curious as to what army that would be. Of the three that come to my mind the only one that truly favored the sword would be the Romans.

You nailed it, sir. 

[Gwydden]

You nailed it, sir. 

The Romans used a single short sword, though, usually accompanied by a huge shield. Little to do with your classic fantasy swords.

[L. Han]

You do know that Romans used the Gladius in combination with javelins right? Roman javelins are not only designed for accurate throwing, but having a naturally longer shaft makes you able to attack enemies before they can even reach you.

 

In essence: spears and polearms have reach, swords and big daggers have flexibility.

[sunnydxmen]

swords are always gonna be better then spears in way more popular like guns are better then sword in everyway.

[Feybrad]

swords are always gonna be better then spears in way more popular like guns are better then sword in everyway.

 

That is an astonishingly single-minded View of things, you know that, right? Spears have many Advantages over Swrods (for example, a longer reach).

[L. Han]

swords are always gonna be better then spears in way more popular like guns are better then sword in everyway.

 

Your comparison between guns and swords is just plain bad. However, since you already brought up guns, it's like comparing a marksman rifle (sniper) to a CQC short barrel sub machine gun/refitted assault rifle. The long range rifle will beat the crap out of the sub machine gun at range, and still has a decent chance even up close.

[Ibn_Shisha]

You do know that Romans used the Gladius in combination with javelins right? Roman javelins are not only designed for accurate throwing, but having a naturally longer shaft makes you able to attack enemies before they can even reach you.

 

In essence: spears and polearms have reach, swords and big daggers have flexibility.

I see what you did there.

[SNascimento]

The Romans used a single short sword, though, usually accompanied by a huge shield. Little to do with your classic fantasy swords.

 

I'm not sure what is your point? Maybe you missed the origin of my post? I used the romans as an exception to the seeming rule that pole weapons were the main weapon of pre modern armies, with the point being spears should be VERY present in the Dragon Age universe. 
 

You do know that Romans used the Gladius in combination with javelins right? Roman javelins are not only designed for accurate throwing, but having a naturally longer shaft makes you able to attack enemies before they can even reach you.

 

In essence: spears and polearms have reach, swords and big daggers have flexibility.

Yes, I'm very aware of that. Yet as with the other post, I fail to see the idea you are trying to convey. As important as the Pilum could be, the Gladius was what won the fight. And I also never tried to say swords were the only weapon used by the roman legions.

Again, he main idea here is: looking to real history, spears should be in Dragon Age.  

[sunnydxmen]

That is an astonishingly single-minded View of things, you know that, right? Spears have many Advantages over Swrods (for example, a longer reach).

 

theres all kind of swords that cans erve that fuction face it swords are better and way more popular and get used to seeing more swords and less spears.

[ReadingRambo220]

Another epic duel with spears was in Troy. Not that good of a movie, but the duel between Hector an Achilles was awesome.

I agree with the idea that its the animations are the reason for their omission.

[sunnydxmen]

Your comparison between guns and swords is just plain bad. However, since you already brought up guns, it's like comparing a marksman rifle (sniper) to a CQC short barrel sub machine gun/refitted assault rifle. The long range rifle will beat the crap out of the sub machine gun at range, and still has a decent chance even up close.

 

dont change the fact that guns are better then swords which is true.

[Loki_344]

Well, that's 5 minutes of my life I can never get back. People actually watch this stuff? I mean, it basically was Disney magic storyline with sex and gore for shock value, complete with "DO YOU SEE THIS GUY'S HUBRIS? HE'S GOING TO LOSE, HAR HAR". Starts with a ribbon dance before a fight, which didn't exactly entertain, then the payoff was absolutely ridiculous. Giant dude might as well have shot laser beams out of his eyes; it would have made more sense than that stupid strangle-magnet-hands trope capped by quite possibly the stupidest non-reaction ever put to film. Gods, what trash.

 

Good lord. What ridiculous and unnecessary snobbery.

[L. Han]

dont change the fact that guns are better then swords which is true.

 

But those two are from completely different eras and arguably share almost nothing in common other than being a tool/weapon.

[Exaltation]

I love Spears and Polearms,and double end Weapons.
Staffs in DA2/I have nice animations,just edit them a bit and you get the required animations.

[sunnydxmen]

But those two are from completely different eras and arguably share almost nothing in common other than being a tool/weapon.

 

which was my point of which is the better weapon. which was why i compare them like i did spear and sword.

[L. Han]

which was my point of which is the better weapon. which was why i compare them like i did spear and sword.

 

And the point of this debate is not what's newer.

[sunnydxmen]

And the point of this debate is not what's newer.

 

that was not my point silly  i allready told you that anyway spears wont  be coming im 100 % sure on that.

[Feybrad]

theres all kind of swords that cans erve that fuction face it swords are better and way more popular and get used to seeing more swords and less spears.

 

There are many kinds of Swords, that is true. But, there are many kinds of Spears (or better, Polearms) as well - think of javelins, pikes, lances, tridents etc. roughly the same Shape and an even broader Specturm of Use than Swords. I have yet to see a throwable Sword or Anti-Cavalry Swords.

Also, Weapons like these were much more common and popular in the times they were used (especially by the common Soldiers). Also, Swords were outclassed in Warfare when the first serious shooting Weapons were introduced, spearlike-fighting was still a concern, as proven by the attachment of Bayonets to Rifles.  If Armies in those times came into close Combat, Soldiers would be able to defend themselves and fight each other in a Way much more reminiscent to fighting with shorter Polearms than Sword Duels.

 

Back to topic, the Reason Spears won't be coming is certainly rooted in Animation and Budget Reasons (next to "not overcomplicating Gameplay by adding X Weapon types"). Your Arguments, though, are irrelevant, as well as your meaningless Comparison.

[sunnydxmen]

There are many kinds of Swords, that is true. But, there are many kinds of Spears (or better, Polearms) as well - think of javelins, pikes, lances, tridents etc. roughly the same Shape and an even broader Specturm of Use than Swords. I have yet to see a throwable Sword or Anti-Cavalry Swords.

Also, Weapons like these were much more common and popular in the times they were used (especially by the common Soldiers). Also, Swords were outclassed in Warfare when the first serious shooting Weapons were introduced, spearlike-fighting was still a concern, as proven by the attachment of Bayonets to Rifles.  If Armies in those times came into close Combat, Soldiers would be able to defend themselves and fight each other in a Way much more reminiscent to fighting with shorter Polearms than Sword Duels.

 

Back to topic, the Reason Spears won't be coming is certainly rooted in Animation and Budget Reasons (next to "not overcomplicating Gameplay by adding X Weapon types"). Your Arguments, though, are irrelevant, as well as your meaningless Comparison.

 

you called it meaningless but its true swords are simply better and, mages staffs animations if they wanted they could use those for spears but they dont swords are more popular in general.

[Feybrad]

That's not even an argument!

And no, while the Mage's Staff Animations come close or seem similar, they would work for spears just like the DA2 Sword animations didn't work for Axes.

Better can be defined in many Ways, but certainly, Spears are for many Situations much better suited than any kind of Sword.

And what obscure Popularity are you speaking of?

[sunnydxmen]

That's not even an argument!

And no, while the Mage's Staff Animations come close or seem similar, they would work for spears just like the DA2 Sword animations didn't work for Axes.

Better can be defined in many Ways, but certainly, Spears are for many Situations much better suited than any kind of Sword.

And what obscure Popularity are you speaking of?

 

obscure they are more popular through out diffrerent types media ,but i see you like your inferior spears and i respect on that like how i know swords are way superior agree to disagree. back on topic i dont ever see it coming in future dragon age at all coming from me its a 0 % chance of it happening.

[Gamemako]

The Romans used a single short sword, though, usually accompanied by a huge shield. Little to do with your classic fantasy swords.

Also accompanied by a litany of other weapons, including the pilum (javelin) mentioned by Legal Han as well as the spatha (longsword) and hasta (spear).

[Setiweb]

Didn't the qunari use spears in DA2?

Spoiler

[zestalyn]

Not too hot about using spears in a video game. It looks silly to me when a character's default attack animation is lobbing a spear where another spear just magically appears in your hand after throwing one. Guild Wars 1's paragon used a spear as a main weapon, and even though the animation was great quality, the idea of throwing infinity spears felt silly to me. Don't care to see it again. 

[Kinthalis ThornBlade]

I don't think most people are talking about javelins/throwing spear though. Just your standard 5 foot pole with a pointy metal spike at the end.

 

It would be cool to see them as a option.