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[Fast Jimmy]

I'd say body sliders are murder on armor. Preventing clipping would be a nightmare.

How did Saints Row do outfits? If you wore a purple fluffy pimp coat and your character was super fat and tall, did the pimp coat change dimensions accordingly?

[In Exile]

At first I was thinking this could be an issue of having to calculate body sliders every time the model is rendered on the screen but this does not make sense because the engine would have to do it anyway as like most models it uses tessellation. This brought that maybe bioware are doing cause it is easy to work with when you are looking at other non character models. Things like armor will have set structures and I in that way they are not built to be adaptable to different body types. It is easy to come up with armor for a qunari using set parameters without having the armor adaptable to different qunari body types. This is all speculation but I think this might be the case cause if I am not mistaken, the mod that imports grey warden armor from Dragon age 2 to origins has different body types for a dwarf and human.

 

 

All just speculation but nice to do anyways

 

Aside from meshes and stuff, it's how the cutscenes have to change with the proportions of the character. Races give you 8 set rigs. Sliders basically give you a continuum of who knows how many possibilities. 

[Heimdall]

I'd say body sliders are murder on armor. Preventing clipping would be a nightmare.
How did Saints Row do outfits? If you wore a purple fluffy pimp coat and your character was super fat and tall, did the pimp coat change dimensions accordingly?

I believe they did

[Heimdall]

I put the poll back.

[In Exile]

Well I am a bit iffy about this. Mostly because these cut scenes of these days are done in engine. Which typically means if something can render outside of a cutscene it probably can render within the cut scenes since they are using the same tools. If it was back in the day when cutscenes were typically video files that were played, then it is understandable but these days you typically do not see that and cutscenes are done in real time.

 

It's not the rendering that's the issue, it's the camera angle. There's this youtube video of an Anders "Arishok" romance, where they swapped the Arishok model for Hawke, and you can see the physical issues (at one point the kissing animation makes it look like anders is trying to suck the Arishok's nipples but is failing. 

 

A qunari and dwarf has to have a redo of the cutscenes, which costs time and money. 

[The Hierophant]

I want it all. I'd love to see in depth vanilla character creators like Black Desert Online's become the norm in the future.

[Orian Tabris]

Gawd, making a choice between the two is hard. If the game's good enough, race selection, otherwise body sliders for that extra boob.

[DeathScepter]

both

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

All these comments and only 5 people voted.

I guess no one actually can made decisions, right?

 

RPG gamers that only want everything or nothing! lol

[smoke and mirrors]

It`s a hard choice because i like both ..... in the end i voted sliders but i am still not sure

[TheChris92]

I'd say body sliders are murder on armor. Preventing clipping would be a nightmare.

How did Saints Row do outfits? If you wore a purple fluffy pimp coat and your character was super fat and tall, did the pimp coat change dimensions accordingly?

Yes they did -- In Saints Row 2 you had almost unlimited amount of customization -- You would wear stockings under a sensible business suit and roleplay as a conservative MP Or dress up as a Batman villain and even tip the bowler hat in any fashion on your head. The options for choosing undershirts, pants, underpants, armbands, hats, jackets, coats, socks etc. It made the customization almost seem insane at the time -- On top of that there is obviously the sliders too, which functions for gender and body alike.

Man what a fun game.


EDIT: Heck, there's even 'mocking romances' in Saints Row 4 where you can play as a fat bloke while romancing Shani and the cutscenes will play accordingly.

[Heimdall]

Yes they did -- In Saints Row 2 you had almost unlimited amount of customization -- You would wear stockings under a sensible business suit and roleplay as a conservative MP Or dress up as a Batman villain and even tip the bowler hat in any fashion on your head. The options for choosing undershirts, pants, underpants, armbands, hats, jackets, coats, socks etc. It made the customization almost seem insane at the time -- On top of that there is obviously the sliders too, which functions for gender and body alike.

Man what a fun game.


EDIT: Heck, there's even 'mocking romances' in Saints Row 4 where you can play as a fat bloke while romancing Shani and the cutscenes will play accordingly.

That's not to mention, armor conformed to bodies in Dragon's Dogma too.

[TheChris92]

That's not to mention, armor conformed to bodies in Dragon's Dogma too.

Yeah, I absolutely love the combat of Dragon's Dogma - It made every fight with big monsters spectacular and epic. The CC was pretty cool. I just didn't like the armour designs for females but that's Capcom for you. Fun games all in all.