But if Isolde is sacrificed, Jowan can't enter the Fade... 0o
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Okay, had to check, curiosity got to me - especially since someone brought up the other day that the Keep allowed for this, when it wasn't possible. From the wiki:
Good! I can fix it! Thanks (I have no idea why 'Connor possessed' was in my notebook then..... uh oh).
No problem - like I said, I was just really confused because I remember there was a discussion on here about how that outcome was impossible the other day. 
It could have been the journal system in Origins said Isolde was sacrificed/connor possessed or something. The journal entries for that quest seem to be wrong in most people's savegames. lol
At the Tapestry, in the top bar right hand side there is a button saying "Beta Feedback" - that's where you submit all bugs, plot suggestions, etc.
However, for this specific case, it is actually possible to complete this quest and side with the Templars in the same playthrough; you just have to go to Orzammar first and strike the deal with Rogek before starting Broken Circle. You'll meet Godwin while going through the tower later, and the quest will complete before you choose who to side with. Since there's no right order to do the main quests, this is still a valid option.
OMG, I never knew you could do that............lol
I'm encountering a lot of problems
It doesn't detect my default Warden, I can't set my romance to Leliana
I have myself as slaying the Archdemon and I can't live.
I can't set it to Alistair ruling the throne without me being dead.
Anyone else running into this?
I'm encountering a lot of problems
It doesn't detect my default Warden, I can't set my romance to Leliana
I have myself as slaying the Archdemon and I can't live.
I can't set it to Alistair ruling the throne without me being dead.
Anyone else running into this?
the not being able to detect wardens is a known bug and is being worked on.
to not die when killing the arch demon you need to have the baby with morrigan. that should fix your alistair issue also.
Don't know why you can't romance leilana, but if there are selections that dont work together the keep should point these out to you and give you th eoption to change them,, unless you have something locked.
If I remember correctly, Jowan is totally cool with it.
But if Isolde is sacrificed, Jowan can't enter the Fade... 0o
Jowan can enter the Fade if you do the Circle ritual, instead of his blood ritual. And he will always deny the deal with the demon, saying he's not wasting his last chance to redeem himself.
the not being able to detect wardens is a known bug and is being worked on.
to not die when killing the arch demon you need to have the baby with morrigan. that should fix your alistair issue also.
Don't know why you can't romance leilana, but if there are selections that dont work together the keep should point these out to you and give you th eoption to change them,, unless you have something locked.
I don't even see the dark ritual as a choice.
Basically I had to pick a default warden and romance isn't an option anywhere
Nothing was set to lock but I've had some funny changes forced randomly
The Dark Ritual is covered by whether Morrigan had a baby. That's on the far right of the companions section. If you've missed picking choices in the companions tab, then that would explain some of the forced changes.
Jowan can enter the Fade if you do the Circle ritual, instead of his blood ritual. And he will always deny the deal with the demon, saying he's not wasting his last chance to redeem himself.
Right now I have three world states.
One is my "canon" playthrough with my favorite Warden and Hawke.
Another is going to be a queen Cousland and I haven't set a Hawke for that one yet.
And the third is my little sister's Hawke and Warden, since both of them ended up synced to my profile while very few of my Wardens did (though I can't actually select them in the Keep since they don't seem to pick up there).
I've noticed that figuring out all of things associated with an Alistair romance and getting them to play nicely together is an absolute bugbear. You have to do them in a certain order to not get any complaints from the system of things not matching up.
And speaking of Jowan... can't he still be alive and free? Iirc, there's an option to tell him to run for the hills after you let him out of the cell and a glitched quest that involves meeting him again.
And speaking of Jowan... can't he still be alive and free? Iirc, there's an option to tell him to run for the hills after you let him out of the cell and a glitched quest that involves meeting him again.
He can! It's not covered by the Keep at the moment - just the related choices (Connor and Isolde's fates).
There's a lot of pages here and I apologise if someone's already brought this up, but...
Trying to select my particular world state is driving me crazy (and yes, I've submitted feedback via The Proper Channels).
See that fellow in my avatar? His name is Brian Amell and he romanced Morrigan, recruited Loghain, fathered (well, sort of) the OGB and put Anora on the throne. Alistair chucked a hissy and flounced off to Kirkwall, where my subsequent Hawkes found him sloshing miserably in the Hanged Man.
And trying to make the world state happen is just...
Select "Loghain alive and well" = "Warden dies slaying the Archdemon" (no he frickin' didn't, offer me the option to select "Morrigan had baby with Warden" already)
Select "Morrigan had baby with Warden" = "Alistair became King" (HELLS TO THE NO WAY, and how the hell are those two even related? Get out of here with your pro-Alistair bigotry.)
And I kept going around and around and around til I gave up and switched to my Lady Aeducan playthrough, which is a lot simpler in that Alibear became king with Lady A as his mistress. I'll give it another go the next time I have a full supply of gin and tonic.
Anyone else do something like this? It can't be that uncommon, can it?
There's a lot of pages here and I apologise if someone's already brought this up, but...
Trying to select my particular world state is driving me crazy (and yes, I've submitted feedback via The Proper Channels).
See that fellow in my avatar? His name is Brian Amell and he romanced Morrigan, recruited Loghain, fathered (well, sort of) the OGB and put Anora on the throne. Alistair chucked a hissy and flounced off to Kirkwall, where my subsequent Hawkes found him sloshing miserably in the Hanged Man.
And trying to make the world state happen is just...
Select "Loghain alive and well" = "Warden dies slaying the Archdemon" (no he frickin' didn't, offer me the option to select "Morrigan had baby with Warden" already)
Select "Morrigan had baby with Warden" = "Alistair became King" (HELLS TO THE NO WAY, and how the hell are those two even related? Get out of here with your pro-Alistair bigotry.)
And I kept going around and around and around til I gave up and switched to my Lady Aeducan playthrough, which is a lot simpler in that Alibear became king with Lady A as his mistress. I'll give it another go the next time I have a full supply of gin and tonic.
Anyone else do something like this? It can't be that uncommon, can it?
Have you tried locking each choice you want to keep before going to the next one?
Did anyone else kill the Architect? Im relatively scared of the consequences lol
Did anyone else kill the Architect? Im relatively scared of the consequences lol
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I always kill the Architect... which could be the consequences??
I'm talking advantage of the Keep by creating the worldstate I would have if not for gameplay/continuity considerations. I can finally choose the US without getting a headache.
I am doing this tooXD mostly creating characters that aren't the ultimate good, for now I'll be making that world state until they are able to fix the import issue.
Also I'm 50/50 on the architect, in some playthroughs I have killed him, in others I've kept him alive, probably more alive cause I want to see what he'll do in the inquisition.
I actually kept him alive exactly because the consequences of making the deal with him sound terrifying. Then later my Hawke sided with Corypheus too, because that pretty much sounded like the worst decision ever. I don't wanna play safe, I want my future heroes to have to deal with the terrible decisions of my old ones.
I'm a little like this myself. XD
I can not wait for the day when the OGB grows up and starts stomping around Thedas. I remember there being a lot of speculation from fans that if his father was a mage, he'd have a powerful command of magic; and if Alistair was his father, he'd have dragon blood in him (since King Maric supposedly was a Reaver). My Warden was a mage, who defiled the Sacred Ashes (and thus went through the same ritual Maric did), so in theory, my Warden's son will have dragon blood running through him as well.
Of course, my reasoning for making those choices was more along the lines of "My mage character was oppressed by the Chantry his whole life, so he has a lot of disdain for the organization", and "he didn't want to die, and he didn't want his buddy Alistair to die either". But thinking about how difficult I might have made things for my future characters is actually a bit exciting.
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I always kill the Architect... which could be the consequences??
If you spare him, you would have the potential of making Darkspawn allies in the future. It's also possible he may find a way to cure the Wardens of the need to go on their "Calling". (From what I hear he does it for one character in the books)
If you kill him possible consequences are more Darkspawn to fight, and no chance of peace with them; as well as ensuring your Warden *will* go on their calling, if they're still alive.
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There's a lot of pages here and I apologise if someone's already brought this up, but...
Trying to select my particular world state is driving me crazy (and yes, I've submitted feedback via The Proper Channels).
See that fellow in my avatar? His name is Brian Amell and he romanced Morrigan, recruited Loghain, fathered (well, sort of) the OGB and put Anora on the throne. Alistair chucked a hissy and flounced off to Kirkwall, where my subsequent Hawkes found him sloshing miserably in the Hanged Man.
And trying to make the world state happen is just...
Select "Loghain alive and well" = "Warden dies slaying the Archdemon" (no he frickin' didn't, offer me the option to select "Morrigan had baby with Warden" already)
Select "Morrigan had baby with Warden" = "Alistair became King" (HELLS TO THE NO WAY, and how the hell are those two even related? Get out of here with your pro-Alistair bigotry.)
And I kept going around and around and around til I gave up and switched to my Lady Aeducan playthrough, which is a lot simpler in that Alibear became king with Lady A as his mistress. I'll give it another go the next time I have a full supply of gin and tonic.
Anyone else do something like this? It can't be that uncommon, can it?
Ok I manage to recreate your scenario at the first try, I don't know what to say, do you tried locking the choices?
Loving this can't wait for more options to be addeded.
But just did my pro-mage world state for the time being, now to do my evil pro-templar state.
And to the person that asked, the Artitech dies in this state once I go through the options.
I still choose to save the architecht, even after reading the calling. It's not as troubling a decision as the DR tho. Seeing as the Old gods caused the blights anyway.
Was there really an option to "hand the conspirators over to Orsino?" I thought Cullen always got 'em?
Was there really an option to "hand the conspirators over to Orsino?" I thought Cullen always got 'em?
What I remember is Orsino called Hawke for some meeting and ask him/her to investigate and deal with whatever is happening.
And yeah at the end Cullen shows up and you can pick "be merciful" or not.Or you can ignore the mages and ask Cullen to get the junkie templar back in the order.
Also I mosly played neutral between the mages/templars at the start of act 3 , and I was always send to see Orsino .
I have a lot of World States, and my main one is based on my main gameplay
City Elf Rogue, recruited almost everyone(not Loghain) and became best friend of the entire group. Romanced both Leliana and Morrigan, but stayed with Morrigan in the end, and made the Dark Ritual. Alistair and Anora leading Ferelden together, and of course my Alistair was not hardened hahahah
It was a good guy, a little sarcastic, but always tried to do the right thing.
Anyone missed some after Denerim choices? I mean, selecting what did you ask at the end of the game! Mages could ask for the Circle to be freed, City Elves getting Alienage do be represented at the Landsmeet(and wich person would lead the elves), choices like that! I think those are really important, and I'm sad Bioware forgot these 
Anyway, sorry for the bad english!
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