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[KefkaGestahl]

My favorite world state is my self-hating mage.  Like that one lady in the Circle at the beginning of Origins, but more extreme.  I had a blast siding with the templars at every turn in Dragon Age 2 despite being a mage.  Sadly, I'm having trouble re-creating my exact character in the keep, mainly because a lot of the choices I made simply aren't available options.  Hope that changes.

 

I have three other solid world states planned, but I'll work on those once the keep goes public and the last of the choices are presented.

[BloodyTalon]

Oddly my favorite world state which won't be my first one is my human noble who marries The Queen, saves her father and sends him to his death against the arch0demon, then in witch hunt stabs Morrigan and Alistair is dead has well. Then my hawke is a safe hating Mage and helps the Templars.

I think I have played to much Dragon Age lately was able to fool around with the keep a lot without wondering some things,.

Have about five world states  in mind and no real canon one for me.

[SmilesJA]

I got one canon world state and one Alternate Universe. Is the MOTA going to be the Keep?

[LanceSolous13]

Mark of the Assassin is in the Keep, but it seems like its really just the status of Tali's relationship with Hawke and if she left on good terms or not.

[BloodyTalon]

Mark of the Assassin is in the Keep, but it seems like its really just the status of Tali's relationship with Hawke and if she left on good terms or not.

Dooes seem like that, get the feeling more options will be incoming, remember this is still beta.

But then again it was more about her and that scroll.

[Darth Krytie]

Are there any choices y'all are debating on when making your first World State to import? 

 

I'm very torn on the red lyrium shard for Varric choice. I really have no idea which to pick for my initial playthrough.

[movieguyabw]

Are there any choices y'all are debating on when making your first World State to import? 

 

I'm very torn on the red lyrium shard for Varric choice. I really have no idea which to pick for my initial playthrough.

 

I would just decide which Hawke you plan on importing first, and based on what kind of person they were, decide whether or not they would have given Varric the shard and for what reason.  I wouldn't worry too much about the implications of doing so or not. 

 

Though, if you really can't decide - I imagine most people are going to choose not to give him the shard on their first run.  So you'll probably have a very different experience from everyone else your first time around if you do give it to him. 

[Darth Krytie]

I would just decide which Hawke you plan on importing first, and based on what kind of person they were, decide whether or not they would have given Varric the shard and for what reason.  I wouldn't worry too much about the implications of doing so or not. 

 

Though, if you really can't decide - I imagine most people are going to choose not to give him the shard on their first run.  So you'll probably have a very different experience from everyone else your first time around if you do give it to him. 

 

I think only two of my 20+ Hakwes gave Varric the shard. I'm just wondering if it'll be useful or a hindrance in game.

 

My second pt will probably be incredibly meta-gamed with the most meta-gamed import. As I am wont to do after a blind first run.

[Reznore57]

Are there any choices y'all are debating on when making your first World State to import? 

 

I'm very torn on the red lyrium shard for Varric choice. I really have no idea which to pick for my initial playthrough.

 

My first Hawke was a bit mama bear with companions...so no red lyrium shard for Varric .I mean I didn't feel like taking any risk.

I also was against the Eluvian , I was paranoid about Merril ending up dead one day.So it got smashed.

Also kill Isabela slaver's "friend" , yeah she didn't get her boat , but at least I was sure the guy wouldn't attack her later and well no more slavery!

 

I have a second Hawke , a dude who was more "Whatever ,do what you want!"

So Varric wanted the shard , he got it.

Merrill was able to keep her Eluvian.

And Isabela got her boat.

 

For my first playthrough I'm picking mama bear Hawke ...the shard and the Eluvian could be useful for the Inquisition.But I have no idea if it's a good thing for Varric or Merrill.I'm not taking that chance.

[JoeCalifornia]

I guess I'll start

 

 

I'm creating a "Why would you do that?!" world save where I choose every horrible decision on both games.

Kill the mabari, kill the prisoner, kill the dying dude in the Korcari Wilds, kill/never recruit the companions etc.

I tried to do a playthrough like this at one point and didn't work out.

It ended up me crying like blubbering baby when I killed my mabari. I reloaded seconds later and decided not to go that evil route 

 

Ha Ha I plan to do the same thing... I'm trying to decide the three companions NOT to kill so I have at least a full party... 

[JoeCalifornia]

I have kind of a question because it's been a long time since I got to play through DA:O.  In Warden's Keep DLC; isn't there an option to slay both Sofia and Avernus?  It seems like I remember one time killing Sofia, letting Avernus help me get rid of the demons but then killing him to get his staff... It was a really nice staff...

[JoeCalifornia]

Oddly my favorite world state which won't be my first one is my human noble who marries The Queen, saves her father and sends him to his death against the arch0demon, then in witch hunt stabs Morrigan and Alistair is dead has well. Then my hawke is a safe hating Mage and helps the Templars.

I think I have played to much Dragon Age lately was able to fool around with the keep a lot without wondering some things,.

Have about five world states  in mind and no real canon one for me.

 

Yeah I was happily surprised that I had played pretty much ever decision.  The only two I didn't know where Mardy, but then I was like oh yeah Dwarf Noble (only did that once), the Crimson Oars... and I never did Master Ignacio but I do remember the option... also I never completed the Crime Wave but I think I did a few a couple times... 

[JoeCalifornia]

I kinda promised (to get into the Keep) that I would romance Cullen with my first play through so I plan to play a Female Human Mage who romances Cullen.  Then my Warden will also be a Female Human Mage (who Cullen was in love with) who romanced Leliana.  Should make for an awkward reunion at Skyhold... 

[Ms .45]

I have kind of a question because it's been a long time since I got to play through DA:O.  In Warden's Keep DLC; isn't there an option to slay both Sofia and Avernus?  It seems like I remember one time killing Sofia, letting Avernus help me get rid of the demons but then killing him to get his staff... It was a really nice staff...

Yes, I've done that 

[SofaJockey]

Are there any choices y'all are debating on when making your first World State to import? 

I'm very torn on the red lyrium shard for Varric choice. I really have no idea which to pick for my initial playthrough.

 

The lyrium shard is an interesting one as Varric is with you in DAI.

 

My first world state - one time only - will be my Asswarden and Asschampion world state.

A maniac Aeducan warden who leaves a trail of death and stupid choices

and a Mage Champion who sides with the Templars and kills, enslaves or drives away their companions.

 

I'll tie that in with a reactive and aggressive Qunari for my first non-completionist playthrough just to see what happens.

[twoacross]

Are there any choices y'all are debating on when making your first World State to import? 

 

I'm very torn on the red lyrium shard for Varric choice. I really have no idea which to pick for my initial playthrough.

 

I've had my first World State decided for some time. Queen Warden from Origins, who was also my first one to import into Dragon Age II. Which will be connected to my sarcastic mage Hawke. I'm thinking I might give Varric the shard... even though I didn't in my actual playthrough with that character. I'm curious what effect it will have.

[Ms .45]

Have you tried locking each choice you want to keep before going to the next one?

Thanks Darth. I think I have it locked in now (literally!). 

 

The problem is that the Keep defaults to a minimalist state - so the default state is "Morrigan did not have baby", under her tab in Companions. 

 

The issue with that is, I don't know how you guys have been behaving but I've been going in and checking major plot points first, rather than methodically working through the images from top left to bottom right. 

 

What this means is that I'm trying to select in more-or-less this order:

 

1) "Warden alive and well" 

 

2) "Anora rules" 

 

 3) "Warden killed Archdemon" (by the way the editors may like to make a selection between whether you want to say "slayed" or "killed" - is there a house style?)

 

4) "Alistair became a drunk"

 

5) "Loghain alive and well"

 

but the thing is, I can't select any of those unless I select "Morrigan had OGB with Warden" FIRST... and the prompts to change my answer don't offer me this option.

 

That's why I was getting so angry, and had to walk away to make a cup of tea before discussing it (I read the NDA very carefully and I would have had the shortest Keep career ever if I wrote in with the language I was using). 

 

I know, I'm a big sook, and it's probably not a common playthrough, but considering the evil bastard playthrough that Alan Schumacher is doing there'd surely be a few people who did something similar and would like to see the outcome of Loghain being posted to Orlais. Imagine meeting him at Vivienne's party...

[Knoppers]

Are there any choices y'all are debating on when making your first World State to import? 

 

I'm very torn on the red lyrium shard for Varric choice. I really have no idea which to pick for my initial playthrough.

 

I went with "Bartrand is alive" and "Varric kept the shard" for my firtst playtrhough. It sounds more interesting and i don't mind some drama. The worst result i can imagine for it is that Varric leaves the Inquisition or dies, which would be bad, but i can experience the other outcomes in subsequent playthroughs and resurrect Varric for future DA titles via the Keep.

 

That's basically my reasoning for all the decisions. I pick what i think would make for a more interesting story. If i don't like it, i'll fix it later.

[Kantr]

Thanks Darth. I think I have it locked in now (literally!). 

 

The problem is that the Keep defaults to a minimalist state - so the default state is "Morrigan did not have baby", under her tab in Companions. 

 

The issue with that is, I don't know how you guys have been behaving but I've been going in and checking major plot points first, rather than methodically working through the images from top left to bottom right. 

 

What this means is that I'm trying to select in more-or-less this order:

 

1) "Warden alive and well" 

 

2) "Anora rules" 

 

 3) "Warden killed Archdemon" (by the way the editors may like to make a selection between whether you want to say "slayed" or "killed" - is there a house style?)

 

4) "Alistair became a drunk"

 

5) "Loghain alive and well"

 

but the thing is, I can't select any of those unless I select "Morrigan had OGB with Warden" FIRST... and the prompts to change my answer don't offer me this option.

 

That's why I was getting so angry, and had to walk away to make a cup of tea before discussing it (I read the NDA very carefully and I would have had the shortest Keep career ever if I wrote in with the language I was using). 

 

I know, I'm a big sook, and it's probably not a common playthrough, but considering the evil bastard playthrough that Alan Schumacher is doing there'd surely be a few people who did something similar and would like to see the outcome of Loghain being posted to Orlais. Imagine meeting him at Vivienne's party...

Yeah the autosolver doesnt show that. I submitted it as a bug. You should too

[BetoJR]

Yeah the autosolver doesnt show that. I submitted it as a bug. You should too

 

Tried that, same problem. Bug submission it is, then.

[Larx Shallow]

My very first Dragon Age story was with my female human noble named Parvati Cousland. She was a diplomatic who would do the noble cause. She sided with the mages, stop the feuding between werewolves and the dalish, destroyed the anvil. and became queen with Alistair. 

 

In DA2 my hawke was a rouge named Sierra Hawke. She was a kind person who wanted to protect her friends and family. A huge chantry follower. She romanced Sebastian Vael. Alot of circumstances later in the game made her view of the world around her change to make the choices that may have a big impact on my story in Inquisiton. Hopefully in DA:I, Sierra can redeem herself.

 

I have a huge spot in my heart for Parvati and Sierra. I can't wait to see their chocies come to play in Inquisition. 

[MageTarot]

Unfortunately my canon Warden (Male Human Noble Rogue) used a mod to romance and rule alongside Alistair...and I STILL roar with laughter after the Landsmeet when I choose "There are worse things I can than think of than being a Queen" as a response to Alistair. 

 

That being said, I haven't made up my mind yet if in my world state I choose that the Warden didn't romance anyone or default it to Zevran since it won't accept my turning Alistair to the Dark Side.  

 

I find it interesting that there are so many creative mods out there for Dragon Age but the Keep pretty much won't recognize them.

[riverbanks]

I find it interesting that there are so many creative mods out there for Dragon Age but the Keep pretty much won't recognize them.

 

Alistair is straight in official canon, and that's what the game is going to respond to. Maybe he hopped the border in your personal headcanon, but Inquisition is not going to respond to that, and in the Keep that's not going to be a valid state for the world the Warden shaped. Same as Morrigan with a female Warden.

 

The story and characters are written a certain way for a reason, and while you're free to headcanon as much as you want in your personal playthrough, game lore will always trump over player lore. The game can't be held accountable for the player deciding to overrule canon rules, or expected to respond appropriately to exploits that were never supposed to happen. 

[Reverendtrigster]

Alistair is straight in official canon, and that's what the game is going to respond to. Maybe he hopped the border in your personal headcanon, but Inquisition is not going to respond to that, and in the Keep that's not going to be a valid state for the world the Warden shaped. Same as Morrigan with a female Warden.

 

The story and characters are written a certain way for a reason, and while you're free to headcanon as much as you want in your personal playthrough, game lore will always trump over player lore. The game can't be held accountable for the player deciding to overrule canon rules, or expected to respond appropriately to exploits that were never supposed to happen. 

 

Agreed. I've often heard the complaint that LI's shouldn't be gender gated at all because it restricts choice for the player, which frankly I feels misses a few very vital points. First and foremost that while yes, your character can be straight, gay or bi as you choose, that doesn't mean you should get to choose other characters' orientation.

 

However much Hawke (male or female) may pine for Aveline, she's just never going to see it, let alone reciprocate. And that's a *good* thing. It's part of her character and to do do otherwise would alter he basic character and personality and change the unique dynamic Hawke can have with her. After all, at the character level, companions are there to engage and relate to within the larger story, not act as vending machines for "romance scenes." If they were it'd make interaction about as engaging as that conversation pie nonsense in Oblivion.

 

TL;DR: Increased choice can sometimes also mean diminished variety.

 

As for including mods...honestly I don't think it's fair to expect Bioware to do that because then it becomes a question of which mods do they include and how does that mesh with the existing datasets? Having said that, in my experience the most mods are the ones that alter the cosmetics of the games, not so much the plot.

Indeed a quick look at the top 100 mods on Nexus for both DAO & DA2 shows that the only plot related mods are "Equal Love" which removes all gender restrictions on romance in DAO (see above for my thoughts on that) and "Sophies Choice" which enables the player to choose which Hawke sibling dies in the prologue instead of it being determined by the player's class. While that may seem like a good idea, it raises a number of potential story problems that are not easily glossed over. Not the least of which being the unlikelihood that the templars would discover Bethany and take her to the circle and not also spot that her brother/sister is also an apostate.

 

Just about everything else appears to be cosmetic in nature and thus not terribly relevant to The Keep.

[Kantr]

-Snip-Not the least of which being the unlikelihood that the templars would discover Bethany and take her to the circle and not also spot that her brother/sister is also an apostate.

Bethany does get taken to the circle anyway. Or are you saying a mage hawke increases the risk before the end of act 1?

 

 

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