1530 réponses à ce sujet

[lduchek]

It is probably late for a new plot to be added, but I was playing DAO as an elf, and in the beginning, where they are exploring the cave and find elven artifacts, among other things, it got me thinking. I was remembering DAII how Bertrand (not sure of spelling) also found unusual things in the ancient dwarven ruin. I don't know if someone else may have suggested it, but it might be interesting if the origins of dwarves and elves came from the same ancient race, the elves eventually being forced to the surface (for a reason I haven't thought of, yet) and the dwarves forced to stay under ground. It could add an interesting complexity to the world state. Just a thought.

[lady_v23]

Should mention that I faced this problem after I deleted the old slate and made the new one.

 

It'll be the same warden

 

I just did that, and same results as you . I logged out, it fixed the problem temporarily but the bug came back

 

Then we'll just have to wait for the devs to fix this

[Devil's Avocado]

It is probably late for a new plot to be added, but I was playing DAO as an elf, and in the beginning, where they are exploring the cave and find elven artifacts, among other things, it got me thinking. I was remembering DAII how Bertrand (not sure of spelling) also found unusual things in the ancient dwarven ruin. I don't know if someone else may have suggested it, but it might be interesting if the origins of dwarves and elves came from the same ancient race, the elves eventually being forced to the surface (for a reason I haven't thought of, yet) and the dwarves forced to stay under ground. It could add an interesting complexity to the world state. Just a thought.

I don't understand what your proposing they add, some lore information? That's not what the Keep does, if such a thing were true, it would be in the game itself.

[lduchek]

I know the keep isn't the right place to necessarily suggest story lines, but it was just a thought and I didn't know where else to put it.

[S Seraff]

anyone else having trouble with the Keep reverting to

- didnt help with Goldanna

- hawke and Cullen werent friends?

[Stakrin]

Sorry about this post.

[Stakrin]

My person canon is based off what I would do if I was in the situation (and actually had my PC's ability.)

This led me to be Aaedan Cousland. A warden who values Morals but knows he needs a strong army. This led him to choosing Behlen over harrowmont, and killing the Dalish in favor of the werewolves, but personal power meant little. He didn't taint the urn, and he gave the family estate to Fergus. Alistar and Anora jointly rule, with Alistar hardened, and Lielanna let Marj walk.

He is very anti circle and killed Wynne at the broken circle. (I didn't know she was recruit-able)

Romanced and had the OGB with morrigan.

Da:2 i romanced merril and carver is a grey warden, and a friend. Isabelle didn't return to me, and Anders was spared.

It's fairly controversial for a personal canon. I don't think this is how it should be but it is what I would do (if I didn't know the possible outcomes. Same reason I avoid story spoilers for inquisition)

[auronvigo]

My person canon is based off what I would do if I was in the situation (and actually had my PC's ability.)

This led me to be Aaedan Cousland. A warden who values Morals but knows he needs a strong army. This led him to choosing Behlen over harrowmont, and killing the Dalish in favor of the werewolves, but personal power meant little. He didn't taint the urn, and he gave the family estate to Fergus. Alistar and Anora jointly rule, with Alistar hardened, and Lielanna let Marj walk.

He is very anti circle and killed Wynne at the broken circle. (I didn't know she was recruit-able)

Romanced and had the OGB with morrigan.

Da:2 i romanced merril and carver is a grey warden, and a friend. Isabelle didn't return to me, and Anders was spared.

It's fairly controversial for a personal canon. I don't think this is how it should be but it is what I would do (if I didn't know the possible outcomes. Same reason I avoid story spoilers for inquisition)

It's not overly controversial. You've shuld have seen some of the world state that have been shared with me.

 

Is this your one and only playthrough?

[Stakrin]

It's not overly controversial. You've shuld have seen some of the world state that have been shared with me.

Is this your one and only playthrough?

Not at all. I have basic "kill everyone I can/support slavery in alienage" and "do the good decision in every way i can" plays. But aside from that I do some rpish runs.

One starts with a Dalish elf mage who cares so little for politics that he hurts himself. This included getting his best friend executed, he also has more interest in Andrastrian religion than his, and converts hfway through the game (I just make him speak differently and grow further from Zevran and closer to Lielanna, Wynne, and Alistar)
He refused the dark ritual and didn't want to tell loghain about it either, not because he feared the ritual, but because after mistakes he made (slaughtering all wolves, letting Mages run free-which he regretted as an Andrastrian- and letting Alistar die and Loghain become a warden) he grew suicidal. He broke up with Lielanna and killed the archedemon.

Then Hawke is a huge supporter of free will. She is anti circle and doesn't care about blood magic, but also lacks trust and hates slavers. (I brought fenris only on certain missions to make him like her so the can have a friendly romance). Despite this, she sides with the Templars, and makes Anders help her, because Carver is with them, and because she feels like that hste will inspire Mages more than a victory in one town.

I plan to make a Vasoth male mage in inquisition who is expected to support Mages, but actually supports order. He feels anyone who is born into the Qun belongs there (and thus won't help sarrebas), and he supports Templars and the circle. He also won't free any prisoners, save for jesters or maybe making some tranquil to prove he sides with order, not with Mages. He will probably end up with Cassandra. Or i may change my mind and make him a female and end up with Blackwall. Depends on who is more similar to him/her, which i will decide after my first playthrough.

May not be the most interesting when summarized now that I think about it, but I have just started doing playthroughs that rely on backgrounds and other details that i head canon

[Hydwn]

A question for fellow keepers: How many of you play Hawkes and Wardens that are similar, and how many play ones that are radically different...?

 

I'm wondering because one thing that surprised me reading about other people's worldstates is that there were some Hawkes who took a radically different angle from their Wardens.  I have five very different worldstates, but in every one of them the Hawke character is basically a continuation of the Warden (for instance, the Andrastean loyalist Templar Warden Cousland became a pro-Templar Templar Hawke).

[auronvigo]

A question for fellow keepers: How many of you play Hawkes and Wardens that are similar, and how many play ones that are radically different...?

 

I'm wondering because one thing that surprised me reading about other people's worldstates is that there were some Hawkes who took a radically different angle from their Wardens.  I have five very different worldstates, but in every one of them the Hawke character is basically a continuation of the Warden (for instance, the Andrastean loyalist Templar Warden Cousland became a pro-Templar Templar Hawke).

 

I have 6 different playthroughs of both games because of the different backgrounds that were available in Origins. Since the back stories were so varied I wound up with Wardens that did not take the same route through the story. Same thing with my Hawkes. They all look and act distinctively. But like Stakrin above I gave each of them a little biography as to why they felt the way they did. I did not just do the opposite of what I did before.

 

If Dragon Age had only one storyline with no diversity I would have played it once, maybe twice with the exact same character.

[riverbanks]

A question for fellow keepers: How many of you play Hawkes and Wardens that are similar, and how many play ones that are radically different...?

 

I'm wondering because one thing that surprised me reading about other people's worldstates is that there were some Hawkes who took a radically different angle from their Wardens.  I have five very different worldstates, but in every one of them the Hawke character is basically a continuation of the Warden (for instance, the Andrastean loyalist Templar Warden Cousland became a pro-Templar Templar Hawke).

 

I have one playthrough where all three heroes are going to be eerily similar, in personality, background, favorite weapon and even love interest on purpose, because I'm going for a particular effect with that one; but in general, my Wardens and Hawkes are starkly different. Good guy Warden with pragmatic Hawke, buffon Warden with nice guy Hawke, pragmatic Warden with joker Hawke, etc. I find repeating the hero's personality throughout the story makes for a bit of a boring, predictable world - the heroes who saved Thedas three times in the Dragon Age were all super nice and friendly, were all big jerks, were all sad clowns. I prefer to spice it up, mix their personalities in ways that maybe mean my Warden and my Hawke and my Inquisitor of this or that playthrough wouldn't really all get along, but the songs the bards would tell of them would be full of different little touches for each of them.

[arandomguy09]

@ S Seraff Me too, plus Marjolain(sorry for spelling), Ohgren and Felsi, and Flemeth. Always reverts those 5. It's a relief I'm not the only one with that problem. 

[Clint_johnston23]

A question for fellow keepers: How many of you play Hawkes and Wardens that are similar, and how many play ones that are radically different...?

 

I'm wondering because one thing that surprised me reading about other people's worldstates is that there were some Hawkes who took a radically different angle from their Wardens.  I have five very different worldstates, but in every one of them the Hawke character is basically a continuation of the Warden (for instance, the Andrastean loyalist Templar Warden Cousland became a pro-Templar Templar Hawke).

I keep things similar, if only for ease of understanding.  As I played through more, I did aim for practical decisions as opposed to moral ones.  At least on other RPG's.  DA2 I only played once.

[Thermopylae]

In  my first playthrough, which is when most of the agonizing occurs, both my warden and hawk end up being vaguely similar, for reasons that should be painfully obvious, I am probably playing an idealized version of myself. I find it vaguely interesting that the me from 5 years ago chose to install Bhelen, a fantasy version of a results driven progressive militarist, I would even go so far as calling Bhelen a dwarven fascist and also saved Loghain, had Alistar a drunk and facilitated Anora to be Queen. Clearly not a happily ever after but playing this through because interested in what the characters do. Hoping Alistar gets some kind of redemptive scene and wondering what a "penitent" Loghain would do.

.

[Devil's Avocado]

A question for fellow keepers: How many of you play Hawkes and Wardens that are similar, and how many play ones that are radically different...?

 

I'm wondering because one thing that surprised me reading about other people's worldstates is that there were some Hawkes who took a radically different angle from their Wardens.  I have five very different worldstates, but in every one of them the Hawke character is basically a continuation of the Warden (for instance, the Andrastean loyalist Templar Warden Cousland became a pro-Templar Templar Hawke).

A mix of both. my first two play runs tend to have the same philosophy down so one is all good while the other is bad/evil. Third is usually the 'third option' run where I pick the remaining options that I could have done. Fourth is self insert, and after that my heroes can vary radically where my warden is evil while my hawke is good.

[olgaroni]

A question for fellow keepers: How many of you play Hawkes and Wardens that are similar, and how many play ones that are radically different...?

 

I'm wondering because one thing that surprised me reading about other people's worldstates is that there were some Hawkes who took a radically different angle from their Wardens.  I have five very different worldstates, but in every one of them the Hawke character is basically a continuation of the Warden (for instance, the Andrastean loyalist Templar Warden Cousland became a pro-Templar Templar Hawke).

I try to avoid making the warden and Hawke too similar, because it would feel strange for me if they (and now the inquisitor too) were nearly identical. One of the most useful things about the keep is the ability to change the combinations of my wardens and Hawkes. I changed nearly all pairs and they are now mostly very different heroes.

I did this especially because Hawke will show up in the new game and they will talk in detail about the warden. If they were three clones that would create a strange situation.

[rprm1987]

A question for fellow keepers: How many of you play Hawkes and Wardens that are similar, and how many play ones that are radically different...?

 

I'm wondering because one thing that surprised me reading about other people's worldstates is that there were some Hawkes who took a radically different angle from their Wardens.  I have five very different worldstates, but in every one of them the Hawke character is basically a continuation of the Warden (for instance, the Andrastean loyalist Templar Warden Cousland became a pro-Templar Templar Hawke).

Well I have 8 walkthroughs while some of them are similar -: some of them are radically different. My worldstate 7 was with an antimage dwarf commoner warden templar and fanatic promage bloodmage hawke. Umm now throw in a qunari champion warrior and this is a perfect recipe for an explosion.

 

I have 6 different playthroughs of both games because of the different backgrounds that were available in Origins. Since the back stories were so varied I wound up with Wardens that did not take the same route through the story. Same thing with my Hawkes. They all look and act distinctively. But like Stakrin above I gave each of them a little biography as to why they felt the way they did. I did not just do the opposite of what I did before.

 

If Dragon Age had only one storyline with no diversity I would have played it once, maybe twice with the exact same character.

 

I consider DAO origins to be 8 personally since the magi can have two races and my outlook can be very different based on that. And the human noble -: the gender effects the who sits on the throne question absolutely.

[Aura-Chan]

My first real world state I created I named Chaotic - I chose most of the "evil" or chaos inducing choices with my Warden, and then chose a Chaotic Good Blood Mage with DA 2 who chose all the good choices and pro mage choices, but loved Merril and supported Anders full (you know good-crazy like Anders).

 

I'm thinking of playing with the Keep while playing the game. Although character choices don't import over (which I wish they did), I wanna see how the experience changes for both while playing along to see the plot choices in context again. Granted many of the DA 2 plot choices I haven't come across yet, so that would be more exciting for me I think.

[auronvigo]

Well I have 8 walkthroughs while some of them are similar -: some of them are radically different. My worldstate 7 was with an antimage dwarf commoner warden templar and fanatic promage bloodmage hawke. Umm now throw in a qunari champion warrior and this is a perfect recipe for an explosion.

 

 

I consider DAO origins to be 8 personally since the magi can have two races and my outlook can be very different based on that. And the human noble -: the gender effects the who sits on the throne question absolutely.

You're absolutely right, but I was seduced away by other games.

 

Inquisition? It will release on 5 platforms. At least 4 of them will have achievements/trophies attached. I heard Mike Laidlaw mention achievements for beating the game on '100 paper cuts on your tongue' difficulty. 4 different races. Future DLC. Multiplayer to contend with. And a while to wait for DA4.

 

I'll probably wind up with more than 6 playthroughs. Watch it happen. If they embed the DLC (like with Sebastian) requiring another playthrough I'm in trouble. 

[Mykel54]

I noticed that in the keep you can choose an option for Hawke to have "never met Tallis". How does this work? I guess it means that this Hawke never did the mark of the assassin dlc, so never went to chateau haine, and never met Tallis.

 

Does this mean that Mark of the Asassin is an optional quest? I say this because most other dlc is mandatory, it happened, regardless whenever you played the dlc or not. Like Legacy, it is important to the plot, so there is no option for stating "did not meet Larius nor Janeka".

[Evamitchelle]

I noticed that in the keep you can choose an option for Hawke to have "never met Tallis". How does this work? I guess it means that this Hawke never did the mark of the assassin dlc, so never went to chateau haine, and never met Tallis.

 

Does this mean that Mark of the Asassin is an optional quest? I say this because most other dlc is mandatory, it happened, regardless whenever you played the dlc or not. Like Legacy, it is important to the plot, so there is no option for stating "did not meet Larius nor Janeka".

 

That's a good question. Maybe in that case it's just assumed that Tallis finished the mission on her own ?

[Aura-Chan]

I noticed that in the keep you can choose an option for Hawke to have "never met Tallis". How does this work? I guess it means that this Hawke never did the mark of the assassin dlc, so never went to chateau haine, and never met Tallis.

 

Does this mean that Mark of the Asassin is an optional quest? I say this because most other dlc is mandatory, it happened, regardless whenever you played the dlc or not. Like Legacy, it is important to the plot, so there is no option for stating "did not meet Larius nor Janeka".

Maybe it's not crucial to the plot as of right now? I haven't read any of the comics so I'm not sure how crucial her character is there.

[Devil's Avocado]

That's a good question. Maybe in that case it's just assumed that Tallis finished the mission on her own ?

This is what I assume since all DLC happens whether we play it or not, it just depends whether the Warden or Hawke was present. It seems the only DLC that the Warden doesn't need to be around is Shale's while for Hawke it's Tallis.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I try to avoid making the warden and Hawke too similar, because it would feel strange for me if they (and now the inquisitor too) were nearly identical. One of the most useful things about the keep is the ability to change the combinations of my wardens and Hawkes. I changed nearly all pairs and they are now mostly very different heroes.
I did this especially because Hawke will show up in the new game and they will talk in detail about the warden. If they were three clones that would create a strange situation.

This is the reason why I didn't make all of my Hawkes into clones of my Wardens. Imagine if all of history's heroes had the same first name, and made all the same choices, lol. So, I switch it up. Like this.

Belorfin Tabris --> Jeffrey Hawke (warrior)
Jeffrey Cousland --> Victoria Hawke (mage)
Victor Surana --> Anya Hawke (rogue)
Darren Brosca --> Belorfin Hawke (warrior)
Duran Aeducan (ultimate sacrifice) --> ??? Hawke (I'm not sure I want to import this one)

They do have similar names, looks, and personalities, but I purposely rearranged them.