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[Senjougahara Hitagi]

I don't remember one thing, can we have Connor alive and possessed even if our Warden wasn't a mage himself? 'cause when I try to change my hero from mage to a rogue, I get a message that I cannot have Connor possessed. But then I go back to that choice and allows me to change it back to "Connor possessed" even with rogue Warden. Something is not right.

[Shelidon]

I don't remember one thing, can we have Connor alive and possessed even if our Warden wasn't a mage himself? 'cause when I try to change my hero from mage to a rogue, I get a message that I cannot have Connor possessed. But then I go back to that choice and allows me to change it back to "Connor possessed" even with rogue Warden. Something is not right.

 

Nobody else than the player-controlled warden will allow Connor to be possessed: as far as I recall, the Keep is correct.

[DAJB]

Well I played female Hawke first and then male Hawke and i can say male Hawke voice actor is much better the female Hawke especially in the sarcastic options.

Yes, the voice acting in DA2 is a very different kettle of fish from ME. Too many of the characters (including FemHawke and - most bizarrely - Isabela) had that awful, emotionless, middle class, drama school trained, pristine English accent and delivery that bores you to tears.

 

I shan't be using the English voice for my FemQuisitor for exactly that reason. Sam Traynor's voice was just about acceptable for a bumbling, fish-out-of-water character like that, but for a heroic main character? It has to be Nyreen! 

[AshenEndymion]

I don't remember one thing, can we have Connor alive and possessed even if our Warden wasn't a mage himself? 'cause when I try to change my hero from mage to a rogue, I get a message that I cannot have Connor possessed. But then I go back to that choice and allows me to change it back to "Connor possessed" even with rogue Warden. Something is not right.

 

If you send a mage into the fade to fight the demon, and said mage is not the PC, then the mage will not even converse with the demon.  Only the PC is weak enough(or strong enough, depending on your viewpoint) to make a deal with the demon...

 

edit: It shouldn't let you change the tile to "connor possessed" when you have a non-mage as the Warden...  I'd file a bug report.

Modifié par AshenEndymion, 28 octobre 2014 - 04:02 .

[Shelidon]

Yes, the voice acting in DA2 is a very different kettle of fish from ME. Too many of the characters (including FemHawke and - most bizarrely - Isabela) had that awful, emotionless, middle class, drama school trained, pristine English accent and delivery that bores you to tears.

 

I shan't be using the English voice for my FemQuisitor for exactly that reason. Sam Traynor's voice was just about acceptable for a bumbling, fish-out-of-water character like that, but for a heroic main character? It has to be Nyreen! 

 

I think it's a matter of taste and it might also depend on the kind of English you are most accustomed to hear in real life. And while you can argue the necessity of a British accent on Isabela, Ferelden has hints of UK just as much as Orlais has hints of France, so it totally makes sense for Hawke to have a British accent. I loved both FemHawke than Isabela specifically for their ability to convey sarcasm in that wonderful British accent: both Jo Wyatt and Victoria Kruger, in my opinion, did their job fonderfully and delivered a quality performance. I wouldn't be so rough on them.

 

Having said so, I'm not completely convinced by what I've seen of Alix Wilton Regan in BioWare Base videos, but I guess we'll see...

[Twilightknight]

I've a quick question. What exactly entails being friends or not with Cullen in DA2? What did I have to do in the game to earn his friendship? Because I don't want to have his friendship if it meant always siding with the templars in the quests except the final one.    I haven't seen an explanation of this and if I've missed it I'm sorry for asking again.

[DAJB]

I think it's a matter of taste and it might also depend on the kind of English you are most accustomed to hear in real life. And while you can argue the necessity of a British accent on Isabela, Ferelden has hints of UK just as much as Orlais has hints of France, so it totally makes sense for Hawke to have a British accent. I loved both FemHawke than Isabela specifically for their ability to convey sarcasm in that wonderful British accent: both Jo Wyatt and Victoria Kruger, in my opinion, did their job fonderfully and delivered a quality performance. I wouldn't be so rough on them.

 

Having said so, I'm not completely convinced by what I've seen of Alix Wilton Regan in BioWare Base videos, but I guess we'll see...

It's not just that it's a British accent ... it's that it's that particular British accent! 

 

It's completely devoid of personality. There are so many regional accents in the UK that the slightest hint of any of them can do wonders (I loved Merrill's Welsh lilt and I'm hoping Sera will be allowed to retain some of her dulcet Derbyshire tones!). Unfortunately, it seems that drama schools like to beat any hint of individuality out of our actors!

[Senjougahara Hitagi]

Yes, the voice acting in DA2 is a very different kettle of fish from ME. Too many of the characters (including FemHawke and - most bizarrely - Isabela) had that awful, emotionless, middle class, drama school trained, pristine English accent and delivery that bores you to tears.

 

I shan't be using the English voice for my FemQuisitor for exactly that reason. Sam Traynor's voice was just about acceptable for a bumbling, fish-out-of-water character like that, but for a heroic main character? It has to be Nyreen! 

 

Are you kidding? Hawke, Bethany and Isabela have the best voices save for Varric out of the whole DA2.

[Devil's Avocado]

I've a quick question. What exactly entails being friends or not with Cullen in DA2? What did I have to do in the game to earn his friendship? Because I don't want to have his friendship if it meant always siding with the templars in the quests except the final one.    I haven't seen an explanation of this and if I've missed it I'm sorry for asking again.It

It isn't completely clear but it's based upon how you talked to him throughout the game and whether you addressed you as a friend by act 3. It doesn't seem to matter whether you sided with templars or mages.

[Devil's Avocado]

It's not just that it's a British accent ... it's that it's that particular British accent! 

 

It's completely devoid of personality. There are so many regional accents in the UK that the slightest hint of any of them can do wonders (I loved Merrill's Welsh lilt and I'm hoping Sera will be allowed to retain some of her dulcet Derbyshire tones!). Unfortunately, it seems that drama schools like to beat any hint of individuality out of our actors!

At least from my perspective being a 'Murcan all you British people sound the same to me. and in my view the accent is appealing. So where you're from does have an impact.

[DAJB]

Are you kidding? Hawke, Bethany and Isabela have the best voices save for Varric out of the whole DA2.

Voices? Plural?  Didn't they all have the same voice?  ;-)  j/k!

[Shelidon]

It isn't completely clear but it's based upon how you talked to him throughout the game and whether you addressed you as a friend by act 3. It doesn't seem to matter whether you sided with templars or mages.

 

I confirm it doesn't. My mage FemHawke was totally pro-mage and still a friend of Cullen. I honestly don't know how that happened: I guess you just have to talk to him more than once and be relatively nice... although sarcastic works as well. Maybe he can just talk you to death and you find yourself being his friend: that would be consistent with the character, it's pretty much what happens to me every time I meet him in the tower of DA:O...

[Antergaton]

I think it's a matter of taste and it might also depend on the kind of English you are most accustomed to hear in real life. And while you can argue the necessity of a British accent on Isabela, Ferelden has hints of UK just as much as Orlais has hints of France, so it totally makes sense for Hawke to have a British accent. I loved both FemHawke than Isabela specifically for their ability to convey sarcasm in that wonderful British accent: both Jo Wyatt and Victoria Kruger, in my opinion, did their job fonderfully and delivered a quality performance. I wouldn't be so rough on them.

 

Having said so, I'm not completely convinced by what I've seen of Alix Wilton Regan in BioWare Base videos, but I guess we'll see...

 

You know, only after you mention this now can I realise how right you are about the accents. The elves in DA2 were obvious, it was Welsh but the English Fereldons were so generic that to me they didn't have any accents at all, they were just voices (except Fenris, he had the voice of Balthier ). Maybe this was a good thing, it was better than the awful accents American's do when trying to do English accents. And if there's one thing our accent is good at, it's sarcasm.

[DAJB]

At least from my perspective being a 'Murcan all you British people sound the same to me. and in my view the accent is appealing. So where you're from does have an impact.

I guess it must! I sold my DA2 copy a long time ago (only Bioware game I've ever released back into the wild!) but I replayed the DA2 demo just the other day to see if it would help with syncing (it didn't, of course!)

 

I was ready to throw FemHawke to the darkspawn long before we reached Kirkwall and, when Isabela opened her mouth, I just wept. Seriously - isn't she supposed to be some kind of dusky Mediterranean type? How did she end up sounding like she's just emerged from a British boarding school?!

 

Ugh! I'd been toying with the idea of buying a cheap second-hand copy of DA2 at some stage but those few minutes with the demo put that notion right out of my head! Oh well ... three weeks to go!

[Wulfram]

Well, Isabela's original voice actor was Queen Anora.  I assume DA2 didn't want to diverge from that.

[bel3338]

I usually play as an elf in DA:O, mainly because I find their two origin stories more interesting than any of the others. I've played all the others at different times (and I really regret playing the dwarf noble origin - now I can never bring myself to put Behlen on the throne, whichever race I play!) but an elf is my go-to default.

Yeah playing the Dwarf origins really does mess up ones decision making process when it comes to Bhelen, that and the epilogue, which I think ruins all playthroughs after the first. My first character was, like most of my characters in RPGs, was a very honourable, righteous guy, who of course sided with the honourable choice of Harrowmont. But after discovering he was an ineffectual leader and, arguably, made things worse for Orzammar, I regretted my choice; and in every future playthrough, although my character couldn't know the eventual outcome, I always knew what the result would be, which threw a spanner in the works more than once. I mean, a progressive Dwarf Noble who wanted the best for Orzammar would then have to elect the brother who tried to kill them? The ability to forget such things would have been helpful in this case (and it would make adventure game replays so much fun too)

 

It's not just that it's a British accent ... it's that it's that particular British accent! 

 

It's completely devoid of personality. There are so many regional accents in the UK that the slightest hint of any of them can do wonders (I loved Merrill's Welsh lilt and I'm hoping Sera will be allowed to retain some of her dulcet Derbyshire tones!). Unfortunately, it seems that drama schools like to beat any hint of individuality out of our actors!

I was always quite partial to Isabela's voice, part of the reason she was my favoured romance option (that and my Hawke wouldn't fancy a blood mage, an abomination or someone who hated the fact they were a mage).

 

The trouble is with some British regional accents is their accessibility elsewhere in the world. I remember how funny it was when Cheryl Cole was fired from American Idol cause no one over there could understand her Geordie accent, but over here her accent seems really quite mild compared to some. Hell even here they have to subtitle some episodes of Trawlermen cause the Scottish accents are that thick.

 

Like you say slight hints of accent might work, but possibly would not sound genuine, or sound so indistinguishable from RP as to not be worth the effort

[DAJB]

Yeah playing the Dwarf origins really does mess up ones decision making process when it comes to Bhelen, that and the epilogue, which I think ruins all playthroughs after the first. My first character was, like most of my characters in RPGs, was a very honourable, righteous guy, who of course sided with the honourable choice of Harrowmont. But after discovering he was an ineffectual leader and, arguably, made things worse for Orzammar, I regretted my choice; and in every future playthrough, although my character couldn't know the eventual outcome, I always knew what the result would be, which threw a spanner in the works more than once. I mean, a progressive Dwarf Noble who wanted the best for Orzammar would then have to elect the brother who tried to kill them? The ability to forget such things would have been helpful in this case (and it would make adventure game replays so much fun too)

 

I was always quite partial to Isabela's voice, part of the reason she was my favoured romance option (that and my Hawke wouldn't fancy a blood mage, an abomination or someone who hated the fact they were a mage).

 

The trouble is with some British regional accents is their accessibility elsewhere in the world. I remember how funny it was when Cheryl Cole was fired from American Idol cause no one over there could understand her Geordie accent, but over here her accent seems really quite mild compared to some. Hell even here they have to subtitle some episodes of Trawlermen cause the Scottish accents are that thick.

 

Like you say slight hints of accent might work, but possibly would not sound genuine, or sound so indistinguishable from RP as to not be worth the effort

Heh. Cheryl Cole as Isabela?  That could work!  

[bel3338]

Heh. Cheryl Cole as Isabela?  That could work!  

 

I've got that "Sailing is like sex" speech in my head in that accent now ... and I don't think it'll ever leave 

 

In an effort to attempt to expunge that audio snippet, there's one choice on the tapestry that I haven't locked in yet and wondered what others picked for it. Lost to the Curse, with Athras and his wife Danyla who succumbed to lycanthropy - the keep currently has two options, you tell him or you don't tell him. But in my last playthrough, I spoke with Athras to begin the quest, but never spoke to Danyla, so you don't end up killing her. Therefore, after curing the werewolves, it's theoretically possible for her to survive; in game even Athras expresses his hopes for finding her. I submitted a plot request for this but I think its really unlikely that it'll get implemented, so what of the two options is the best/happiest one do you think?

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Isabela has a British accent because Rivaini evidently have British accents. Bioware made up Rivain so there is no reason why that wouldn't be the case.

[DAJB]

I've got that "Sailing is like sex" speech in my head in that accent now ... and I don't think it'll ever leave 

 

In an effort to attempt to expunge that audio snippet, there's one choice on the tapestry that I haven't locked in yet and wondered what others picked for it. Lost to the Curse, with Athras and his wife Danyla who succumbed to lycanthropy - the keep currently has two options, you tell him or you don't tell him. But in my last playthrough, I spoke with Athras to begin the quest, but never spoke to Danyla, so you don't end up killing her. Therefore, after curing the werewolves, it's theoretically possible for her to survive; in game even Athras expresses his hopes for finding her. I submitted a plot request for this but I think its really unlikely that it'll get implemented, so what of the two options is the best/happiest one do you think?

I don't think there is a "best" as far as DA:O itself is concerned. From memory (and, as a word of warning, the last time I relied on my memory for one of these, I got it completely wrong!) after you've killed Danyla and told Athras, he gives you something (possibly a ring or an amulet?) as thanks for telling him the truth. And that's it.

 

Whether it has any repercussions for DA:I is another matter, I suppose!

 

As a side thought, did you cure the curse?  Assuming you did, I wonder if not killing Danyla would mean that she reverted to being human and could return to Athras? Pure speculation on my part!

[bel3338]

As a side thought, did you cure the curse?  Assuming you did, I wonder if not killing Danyla would mean that she reverted to being human and could return to Athras? Pure speculation on my part!

 

That's how I always read the situation - after curing the curse and returning to the Dalish camp, Lanaya says that all the sick elves were recovering and would be able to fight for you, so I would assume (dangerous thing to do I know) that should Danyla be ignored the curse would be lifted from her too and she would be able to go home, albeit with those yellow eyes that the cured werewolves had

[DAJB]

That's how I always read the situation - after curing the curse and returning to the Dalish camp, Lanaya says that all the sick elves were recovering and would be able to fight for you, so I would assume (dangerous thing to do I know) that should Danyla be ignored the curse would be lifted from her too and she would be able to go home, albeit with those yellow eyes that the cured werewolves had

Damn. Now I'm worried that Athras will turn up, a broken man, cursing the Warden for having killed his wife!

[bel3338]

Damn. Now I'm worried that Athras will turn up, a broken man, cursing the Warden for having killed his wife!

 

Anything's possible!

 

That's got me thinking; there are bound to be a handful of cameos from Origins, Awakening and DA2, I mean we know Morrigan is showing up for starters, but I wonder who the most obscure cameo is gonna be. There's probably of dozens of characters they could put in that I wouldn't realise were returning, unless they really obviously flag everyone, like "Ooh by the way I once met the Hero of Ferelden" (I'm glancing in Bodahn's direction whilst typing that)

[DAJB]

Anything's possible!

 

That's got me thinking; there are bound to be a handful of cameos from Origins, Awakening and DA2, I mean we know Morrigan is showing up for starters, but I wonder who the most obscure cameo is gonna be. 

Yeah, going through the Tapestry made me wonder about quite a few. I think I'd already read that Dagna is returning but, before I completed the Tapestry, I'd .never have thought that Bella (the Redcliffe barmaid) would feature ... which she might not, I suppose, but why else is she there? I suspect Ruck might return, but that's based purely on the fact that there was a "missing" character called Ruck in the ME Omega DLC, which suggests someone at Bioware has a fondness for that character!  

[Devil's Avocado]

Yeah, going through the Tapestry made me wonder about quite a few. I think I'd already read that Dagna is returning but, before I completed the Tapestry, I'd .never have thought that Bella (the Redcliffe barmaid) would feature ... which she might not, I suppose, but why else is she there? I suspect Ruck might return, but that's based purely on the fact that there was a "missing" character called Ruck in the ME Omega DLC, which suggests someone at Bioware has a fondness for that character!  

If only we can ask someone in the Keep many months ago and which tiles were there, those are more than likely suspects to show up in DAI.

My guess is anything added after the game hit alpha won't show up in the main game.

I want to say Bevin was one of the first.