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[2girls1reaper]

Hey guys. I bought the mass effect trilogy a few weeks back and I've been straight up addicted to it. I've already beat the first couple of games and done all the sidequests and dlc for them, but before I start the third game I've got a few questions

Please don't spoil anything for me though!

1. I've heard you can basically kill off all of your old squadmates. I've been mostly renegade the first two games, but is it satisfying at all to do that? and is it possible for all of your squadmates to survive?

2. What's the best way to pace out the dialogue with your crew? I was used to talking to squadmates after every mission in the first game, so on me2 by the end of the game most of my squadmates had ran out of things to stay on the normandy.

3. Can you continue playing the game after the ending? And when is the best time to download the citadel dlc?

4. There's been so much talk about the ending of the game. I've even heard one person say it's so bad that you should stop playing before you get to some beacon and just imagine your own ending. Is it truly that bad?

5. Should I ditch ashley for liara? That scene at the end of LoTSB where shepard says "come back soon" was easily the most depressing scene so far. Only time I've seen shepard look sad.

6. How do you cope with series ending? Hahaha

[ComradeShepard7]

1. I don't know if you can kill all of them off but I do know that a few of them can be. I suppose you could consider some of the ones I know of to be satisfying but others are really just passive events.

 

2. There is a lot more variety in the interactions on board the Normandy in ME3. Crew members will move around to different areas of the ship and some interactions will involve multiple characters at once. They generally all have something new to say after almost every mission so I'd advise always making the rounds if you want to hear everything. Another change from ME2 is that many of these interactions don't involve entering the conversation mode. Instead you just activate the dialogue while still being in control of what Shepard is doing.

 

3. You can't keep playing past the ending. However, there is an auto save right before the point of no return so you can reload the character and play through stuff you may have missed. However, some missions are no longer available after certain points so you have to do those while they are available. I'd say the best time to do the Citadel DLC is right before the point of no return since this will allow you to interact with any of the characters you choose who are still alive.

 

4. The ending certainly isn't what was promised since your choices over the course of the series don't really have any affect on the ending. They just influence the narrated slideshow you get. The only thing I would consider a positive about the ending is that if you have a high enough "campaign score" the set of final choices you have available kind of goes into a very limited exploration of what constitutes life so it is kind of interesting if you like that sort of science fiction. Other than that though it is a pretty disappointing end to the series.

 

5. Do whatever you want romance wise. I've only taken a Liara romance through ME3 so far so I can't comment on the quality of Ashley's.

 

6. Find other stuff to play or replay the series if you want. Multiplayer is pretty fun and I certainly sank lots of time into it though I don't play it very much these days.

[Zjarcal]

I am amongst the few here who loves the ending, the majority here seriously hate it though, so make of that what you will. Worth pointing out that you will get the Extended Cut ending, most of the rabid hate comes from the pre EC ending.

As for your other questions...

- Every squadmate can die (not sure if all in ME3 though, some prolly only in the suicide mission), but unless you actually hate that squadmate, I don't see why you'd want them off. Some deaths may be inevitable depending on choices and other stuff.

- There is TONS of dialague from squadmates, talk to them after every single mission, even minor ones. Mind you, most of their dialogue isn't delivered in actualy cutscenes.

- Citadel DLC is best played right before the final mission, this way you'll have all the possible content available to you.

- You can play after the ending technically, but it's more like you're warped back to a save right before the final mission.

- As for LIs, do what you want, why do you want other people telling you who to ditch for who.

- Move on to other stuff.

[Sir DeLoria]

Pfft, Liara is way too mainstream, stay with Ash. She'll be annoying the first time you meet, but she has a decent romance overall. Liara just has the most content, second most (for MaleShep) has Tali.

[DeinonSlayer]

1) It's a different experience. The ME1 squad (sans Wrex) are the only ones to return as permanent squadmates in ME3, the others get cameos with varying degrees of impact on the plot. I've done multiple playthroughs with different combinations of survivors. You may have to do the same to get the full experience. For example, the character replacing Mordin is well worth a playthrough in which Mordin dies.

2) For the most part, you won't have dialogue wheels with squadmates on the Normandy like you did in the last two games. Characters move around the ship after different missions and talk to each other. In many interactions, you have no control over your dialogue at all, and the dialogue wheel in most in-game interactions has only two dialogue options in place of the normal three with copious autodialogue in-between. It's an adjustment.

3) No. You get zapped back to the Normandy's bridge, just before the second-to-last mission.

4) ...that, you'll have to decide for yourself. Hope you installed the Extended Cut first.

5) I'd best hold my tongue. The general response on these boards is that Liara is a bit more distant than those who romance her would like, and far too intimate with Shepard in the eyes of those who don't. I'm not a fan, personally. Working on a loyal Ashleymancing MaleShep right now. Had an interesting dynamic with a previous MaleShep who cheated on her.

6) Varies from person to person. I suppose it helps that I'm not one to get broken up over

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whether the Geth survive in the first place.

Without giving too much away, I see the ending as being similar to the BDtS ending writ large. If you're hung up over making that kind of sacrifice and find your other choices unpalatable, I'd recommend copious amounts of liquor. Shepard can't "but-I'm-a-pure-paragon" his way out of this one.

[zestalyn]

Hey, so I found this guide for optimal mission order to be very helpful for me. It is written spoiler-free, and the order allows you to rack up enough morality points to get the "best" outcomes. It includes suggestions for when is the best time to play certain DLCs, and things like that, perhaps it can help you. 

http://www.gamefaqs....ect-3/65872124 

If this is your first run through of the trilogy, trying to purposely kill off your squadmates might just be causing yourself unnecessary grief lol. The ending is bittersweet enough. Do you want you squad mates to die? If you don't, you should try to not get them killed. Save the whole 'kill everyone' playthrough for another time maybe? 

Same thing with romance, go with your gut. But I'll tell you, I do hear that in ME3, Ashley's character and romance is not as interesting or nicely fleshed out as others, atleast enough for people to complain about that, while Liara has always been a very fulfilling character/love interest. 

So I'm like you, I discovered the game 2 months ago, and I expected the ending to be disgustingly bad just cause of what people say about it. It honestly wasn't as bad as I expected. Don't listen to those people. Those people are serious drama queens.

Yes the ending has alot of flaws, and it's easy to imagine why it devastated those who played ME3 upon its release and didn't have the extended cut. People have spent a very long time picking apart about why the ending is so bad and disrespectful for players and all that, but honestly...the ending is a mission and a 10 minute cutscene. By the end, it made me cry, even though I knew exactly was going to happen cause I spoiled myself weeks beforehand, which is a sign it did its job IMO lol. It's a great game and story, just finish it.

And yes, you can keep playing after beating the ending, however it automatically brings you to a save that takes place right before the final mission. 

Download the extended cut. Just like the guide I linked says, you will need atleast 3100 EMS (4000 w/o extended cut) by the end of the game for the best version of the ending. There are many guides online that can help you with maximizing your EMS. 

[von uber]

Welcome to the forum.



Good luck.

[2girls1reaper]

1) For example, the character replacing Mordin is well worth a playthrough in which Mordin dies.
6) Varies from person to person. I suppose it helps that I'm not one to get broken up over

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whether the Geth survive in the first place.

Without giving too much away, I see the ending as being similar to the BDtS ending writ large. If you're hung up over making that kind of sacrifice and find your other choices unpalatable, I'd recommend copious amounts of liquor. Shepard can't "but-I'm-a-pure-paragon" his way out of this one.

Lmao @ "copious amounts of liquor." I don't know all the specifics of the geth decision, and I don't want to know. I do know, however, that I'm going to keep the geth on a short leash. I'll try to make a quarian-geth peace work, and if not, i'll blow the geth all to hell without hesitation because they tried to kill me way too many times in me1&2.

Without spoiling too much, who replaces mordin as a squadmate? I'd like to know that before i make a life or death choice lol.

You guys have all been more than helpful so far. I have a feeling I'm gonna hang around on this forum even after I beat mass effect 3.

Couple more questions for yall.

1. I played the last few side missions, as well as LoTSB and Arrival, on Insanity and did pretty well. How much hell will I be putting myself through if I make my first playthrough insanity?

2. I only have enough on psn right now to buy either the leviathan dlc or the prothean squadmate. Which dlc is better to have first?

3. How's multiplayer? I'm pretty damn pumped about being able to play as other species.

[themikefest]

1) Yes. I did a playthrough with all dead. Did a playthrough with most dead and got the best ending. Did a playthrough with all alive. Still got the best ending

 

2) Sometimes I talk after every mission or every second mission

 

3) No. Download the dlc anytime. I play it after the Sanctuary mission

 

4) Play the game and find out for yourself.

 

5) No. Don't like the scene.

 

6) I do another playthrough or play a different game

[zestalyn]

Lmao @ "copious amounts of liquor." I don't know all the specifics of the geth decision, and I don't want to know. I do know, however, that I'm going to keep the geth on a short leash. I'll try to make a quarian-geth peace work, and if not, i'll blow the geth all to hell without hesitation because they tried to kill me way too many times in me1&2.

Without spoiling too much, who replaces mordin as a squadmate? I'd like to know that before i make a life or death choice lol.

You guys have all been more than helpful so far. I have a feeling I'm gonna hang around on this forum even after I beat mass effect 3.

Couple more questions for yall.

1. I played the last few side missions, as well as LoTSB and Arrival, on Insanity and did pretty well. How much hell will I be putting myself through if I make my first playthrough insanity?

2. I only have enough on psn right now to buy either the leviathan dlc or the prothean squadmate. Which dlc is better to have first?

3. How's multiplayer? I'm pretty damn pumped about being able to play as other species.

Not sure what you mean by replacing Mordin. 

1.  Can't answer that one, I've only done hardcore. 

2. Well, do you plan to have both? If you do, then having the Prothean one sooner is better. If you're only going to choose one, Leviathan is wayyyyyy better bang for your buck. It's a lot of fun and gives you a few hours worth of play, whereas From Ashes can be beaten in 30 min. The squadmate is awesome but you can just watch vids of him on Youtube. 

3. I LOVE multiplayer!! Btw, doing alot of multiplayer will help you maximize EMS fairly easily. 

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

Lmao @ "copious amounts of liquor." I don't know all the specifics of the geth decision, and I don't want to know. I do know, however, that I'm going to keep the geth on a short leash. I'll try to make a quarian-geth peace work, and if not, i'll blow the geth all to hell without hesitation because they tried to kill me way too many times in me1&2.

Without spoiling too much, who replaces mordin as a squadmate? I'd like to know that before i make a life or death choice lol.

You guys have all been more than helpful so far. I have a feeling I'm gonna hang around on this forum even after I beat mass effect 3.

Couple more questions for yall.

1. I played the last few side missions, as well as LoTSB and Arrival, on Insanity and did pretty well. How much hell will I be putting myself through if I make my first playthrough insanity?

2. I only have enough on psn right now to buy either the leviathan dlc or the prothean squadmate. Which dlc is better to have first?

3. How's multiplayer? I'm pretty damn pumped about being able to play as other species.

Mordin doesn't comeback as a squadmate. But, I'd advise you to keep him around. 

1. Depends on your class. If you're a sentinel, it'll be incredibly easy. Though, if you can play ME2 on insanity, then ME3 will be a walk in the park. 

2. The Prothean squadmate is a pretty great squadmate, but From Ashes itself comes with little gameplay, especially compared to Leviathan. 

3. It's pretty good if horde mode is your thing. 

And to answer your first six questions....

1. It's not satisfying to kill all of them off, and on your first time through ME3, you want as many alive as possible. And you can have them all alive. 

2. After every mission sounds about right; you'll get commentary on the one you just did.

3. You can play the game again, but nope, no more playing after the ending.  

4. It's horrible without the Extended Cut DLC, and still pretty damn bad with it. But, there are worse things, and you should play through it. 

5. I'd say yes, but there are many, many people on here who will say otherwise. 

6. Move on to better games. 

[themikefest]

Mordin is not replaced with another squadmate. He's replaced by another Salarian who you will encounter when doing the Sur'Kesh mission

 

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Padok Wiks

[DeinonSlayer]

Mordin gets replaced by an equally-competent fellow by the name of Padok Wiks. Has a different philosophical approach to science and some funny dialogue on the Normandy. I'd recommend at least one playthrough with him and one with Mordin.

Good luck with the short leash. They do just about everything short of hitting you over the head with a mallet to push you towards the other side in ME3. I'd say some of the writing issues in the Rannoch arc rival the ending itself (spoilers @link).

Insanity isn't.

Javik is a must-have; Leviathan tries to retroactively foreshadow the ending. Got both, would pick From Ashes over Leviathan if I had to choose. Haven't played Multiplayer forever, but it was fun while it lasted. My time in the MEU these days is mostly consumed by bullshitting on the forums and installing mods (which, by the way, make the game look a hell of a lot better).

[zestalyn]

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By the way, IMO, play Citadel DLC after you beat ME3. That DLC does a great job of alleviating emotional wounds with lots of feel-good entertaining fan-service material lol 

[KaiserShep]

I would at least do the identity thief mission, unless you like head-canonizing that Anderson had a VI of himself installed in his apartment lol.

[Excella Gionne]

I can tolerate the endings and some of the trilogy's B.S. canons. If the ending is going to bother you that much, maybe you shouldn't play ME3. :-/

[2girls1reaper]

@TheOneTrueBioticGod I've been a soldier in me1&2 so i'll probably stick with that on me3. Although I did read somewhere that classes don't affect what weapons you can use in me3

I'm currently installing the Extended Cut, multiplayer packs (came for free with the trilogy) and I'll probably get From Ashes first judging from the responses.
Thanks for the clarification of solus/padok. I'll probably make sure solus lives my first go-round.

@DeinonSlayer I'mma miss legion, but if the geth are gonna screw with me their days in this galaxy are numbered. Really wish I had ME3 for pc now that you mention mods. I used mods of Fallout 3 for pc and the possibilites were basically endless with people making custom weapons and missions

[2girls1reaper]

I would at least do the identity thief mission, unless you like head-canonizing that Anderson had a VI of himself installed in his apartment lol.

Identity Thief? Nvm, it sounds spoiler-heavy. Please tell me Anderson doesn't actually have a VI of himself! I like that guy, plus I thought Udina was the narcissistic idiot, not Anderson hahaha!

[KaiserShep]

No not at all. It's a fun mission though, with what I think to be the best combat in the game.

[DeinonSlayer]

@DeinonSlayer I'mma miss legion, but if the geth are gonna screw with me their days in this galaxy are numbered. Really wish I had ME3 for pc now that you mention mods. I used mods of Fallout 3 for pc and the possibilites were basically endless with people making custom weapons and missions

Mods are something of a mixed blessing. I probably spent more time modding Fallout: New Vegas than playing it.

ME3 is on hold for me at the moment. I installed a mod which broke it and haven't motivated myself to dig through the files and fix it again.

And yeah, I miss ME2 Legion too.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

@TheOneTrueBioticGod I've been a soldier in me1&2 so i'll probably stick with that on me3. Although I did read somewhere that classes don't affect what weapons you can use in me3

You can use whatever guns you want. The balance for this is the bigger and heavier guns you use, the longer power recharge is. My point with sentinel is that tech armor cuts damage in half. 

[2girls1reaper]

@DeinonSlayer I would imagine that ME3 would be very easy to break via modding. I got a platinum trophy on Fallout 3. Wasn't motivated enough to finish New Vegas though. It's so easy to see the endings coming just a matter of which choice to make. Plus you can't play after the ending, so I lost interest.

@TheOneTrueBioticGod I might gave to rethink which class to use in that case. How exactly does the balancing work? Like if I use an assualt rife, my recharge on powers is longer than if I use a pistol, regardless of class?

Anyone else playing this on PS3 btw?

[themikefest]

@DeinonSlayer I would imagine that ME3 would be very easy to break via modding. I got a platinum trophy on Fallout 3. Wasn't motivated enough to finish New Vegas though. It's so easy to see the endings coming just a matter of which choice to make. Plus you can't play after the ending, so I lost interest.

@TheOneTrueBioticGod I might gave to rethink which class to use in that case. How exactly does the balancing work? Like if I use an assualt rife, my recharge on powers is longer than if I use a pistol, regardless of class?

Anyone else playing this on PS3 btw?

Yes I play on the ps3. Good system.