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[Tremere]

Will disagree that it is overrated, but can empathize where you are getting that opinion. Skyrim is my first TES title, and it is not story driven. However, what it does extremely well is allow the Player to RP and craft their own stories using the ones in the game.

My first character, I made the error (IMO) to do almost everything on the first campaign. That left me with little untold stories to see, but a whole lot of content left unexplored. So I crafted new DB's with new personalities and backstories, and played for 700+ hrs. Then I added mods to aid me in becoming more immersed into the world, from visuals, mechanical changes, etc. And now sit at 2800+ hrs later taking a break to discover more stories left untold within me.

For a good example, try this series. If you do not care for it after this first Chapter, leave it, but I think the humor and stories are somewhat addictive like popcorn:

https://www.youtube....fJetcjAhl718NP

I found this series earlier from Gopher's tutorials and Skyrim Mod Sanctuaries, and highly recommend the Beginner's Modding series for tips, instructions, and mod recommendations.

FWIW, I do believe if you allow yourself the opportunity, you will have a lot more stories to explore within your own imagination.

 

Wow i can`t believe how many of you hated Obivion and Skyrim . Oh i liked LA Noire too .

I liked Oblivion. I have L.A. Noire sitting in Steam, waiting to be played. The only thing deterring me is that I have to work my head around playing a fixed protagonist. I'm sure I'll get to it though.

[Elhanan]

 *chuckles* Well, I expected some disagreement and I certainly appreciate your suggestions, but with respect, "Been there. Done that." Over the years, I've seen many of Gopher's tutorials and various playthroughs, so I'm quite familiar with his content. In addition, I'm not unfamiliar with various "Creation Kits", which led to me creating a couple of followers and a player home (in Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas). Likewise, I've been through several characters... None of which finished the game (Skyrim).
 
I will agree with you, that Skyrim allows you the room to engage your imagination and create your own narrative. Unfortunately, this is precisely part of the reason why I think it should have been branded an Action-Adventure game as opposed to an RPG. From my perspective, it provides the illusion of being an RPG, but in the context of the storylines, the player has very little to say and only affects events that lead to the end of a particular questline. Once you're done with "that or the other" storyline, that's pretty much it. So, yes, "you" can continue along the lines of your narrative and play whatever role you built for yourself, but ultimately, that's all it is.
 
On a final note... Trust me... I have a very vivid and robust imagination so immersing myself in a role or a storyline isn't a challenge. In fact, I'm so "real" about it, that if my character dies, I'll start the game over again... From the beginning. After the requisite rant of course.

Gotcha. Few notes then; this LPSA series is a blast, and still worth the time to watch for laughs. And while it is entitled a Beginner's series, there are still plenty of material and recommendations included for experts.

And I have not finished the game either, as most of my DB's top out at ca. 60th lvl. That specifically does not mean I cannot return or whatever, but I do not let End game mechanics determine where my stories conclude.

While the dialogue can be brief or rather one-sided, that does not define RPG's. If that were the case, the old Gold Box sets and their ilk would not have inspired the current age of titles.

[Tremere]

Gotcha. Few notes then; this LPSA series is a blast, and still worth the time to watch for laughs. And while it is entitled a beginner's series, their are still plenty of material and recommendations included for experts.

And I have not finished the game either, as most of my DB's top out at ca. 60th lvl. That specifically does not mean I cannot return or whatever, but I do not let end game mechanics determine where my stories conclude.

While the dialogue can be brief or rather one-sided, that does not define RPG's. If that were the case, the old Gold Box sets and their ilk would not have inspired the current age of titles.

Oh I know. Gopher's playthrough vids are where you go when you need to practice your face-palming. For me personally, it gets old after a while, but I agree... They are worth a laugh. Through those videos, you almost forget what's wrong with Skyrim (in my opinion). I'm with you in regards to not letting game mechanics determine where I go. In this, way even a bad game (as we understand "bad") can stay engaging. I mentioned to some people that I thought Skyrim was some kind of weird psych-test that Bethesda invoked on it's fan base to prepare them for ESO. *laughs*

[Giant ambush beetle]

Dragon Age 2 was supposed to be an awesome game. It was so awful that I stopped playing it somewhere near the end of act #2. I think its the only game I own I've never finished. 

[Elhanan]

Dragon Age 2 was supposed to be an awesome game. It was so awful that I stopped playing it somewhere near the end of act #2. I think its the only game I own I've never finished.

And to me, it is great game, but not as polished as it should have been. I enjoy the new Talent and Spell tiers, faster, more visceral combat (though I do wish it ere somewhere between this and DAO), full VO, dialogue and banter. Lots of pluses many seem to overlook.

Skip the minor Fetch quests (all optional, I believe), and read the Codex entries, absorb the story, and place tongue in cheek at the waves of Sky Ninjas, and enjoy it for what it is; not as one hopes. I have several hundreds of hrs with all classes and both genders, weaving the story of the Champion of Kirkwall.

[blaidfiste]

Icewind Dale 2 - good game but meh

Neverwinter Nights - I was just so worn out by the time I got to Luskan

Neverwinter Nights 2 - Same deal burn out by the time I got Crossroads Keep

Assassin's Creed 2 - PC DRM cost me hours of game time

GTA games - at some point I have to do a timed driving mission and I suck at those

The Witcher 2 - After chapter 2 lost interest

[Elhanan]

NWN1 shines best in mods and m/p settings, and HotU has seen many repeated characters of mine. Still playing since release; my fave game of this century.

[bussinrounds]

Skyrim. While engaging in regards to building your character. The storylines are pathetically shallow and largely unfulfiling. No amount of incoherent wandering or dungeon crawling can fix that. Mods help the experience, but by and large I consider the game overrated.

Actually, if it had good combat/gameplay, interesting and varied enemies, dungeons, puzzles, ect...it sure as hell would make up for the lack of good 'story elements'.   

 

I like Planescape as much as the next guy, but RPGs that can be carried on story elements like that, are few and far between for me. 

 

And I wouldn't call the character systems/rpg elements in those games engaging.  You can be a jack of all trades and do everything in Bethesda games, there's no interesting choices to be made.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Unless a game is technically unplayable, I generally finish what I start.

 

I can only think of 3 games I didn't finish despite them not having game-breaking bugs.

 

Alas, it's not necessarily because the game is bad, but because my attention switched to something else.

[Giant ambush beetle]

And to me, it is great game, but not as polished as it should have been. I enjoy the new Talent and Spell tiers, faster, more visceral combat (though I do wish it ere somewhere between this and DAO), full VO, dialogue and banter. Lots of pluses many seem to overlook.

Skip the minor Fetch quests (all optional, I believe), and read the Codex entries, absorb the story, and place tongue in cheek at the waves of Sky Ninjas, and enjoy it for what it is; not as one hopes. I have several hundreds of hrs with all classes and both genders, weaving the story of the Champion of Kirkwall.

 

Its not just the quests and other minor things, I didn't like the very game itself. The animations, the art style, the wave combat, the characters, the protagonist, the protagonists voice acting - I didn't like anything. It was chore for me to get to chapter 2 and there was no reason to continue. To be perfectly honest I never had so little fun playing a game before.  

 

I liked some of the armors though. 

[Elhanan]

Its not just the quests and other minor things, I didn't like the very game itself. The animations, the art style, the wave combat, the characters, the protagonist, the protagonists voice acting - I didn't like anything. It was chore for me to get to chapter 2 and there was no reason to continue. To be perfectly honest I never had so little fun playing a game before.  
 
I liked some of the armors though.

I liked the new looks for Flemeth and Qunari; preffered other looks for Elves and Darkspawn. But I adored many of the characters, esp Aveline and Varric.

But Ch 1 is all about raising funds, which I set aside with a simple console command, then focus on the quests and stories I wish to follow. Ch 2 is my favorite, and enjoy much of Ch 3, though it could have been explained a bit more.

I also recommend the Legacy and MotA DLC; both have entertaining stories, lore, party banter, etc.

[UnknownIntrigue]

[SafetyShattered]

Dumb question, but is this game recent? I dont think i've ever seen it lol.

 

[UnknownIntrigue]

Dumb question, but is this game recent? I dont think i've ever seen it lol.

IT has a recent version too. I think it started with True crime LA/New York. It was like maybe 10 years ago when I played its first version. Now it has a PS3 one too.

http://en.wikipedia...._Crime_(series)

[SafetyShattered]

IT has a recent version too. I think it started with True crime LA/New York. It was like maybe 10 years ago when I played its first version. Now it has a PS3 one too.

http://en.wikipedia...._Crime_(series)

 

 

Thank you, you would get a like but i'm out lol.

 

Kinda suprised by that. I usually try to stay up to date with games, but i completely missed that one when it came out.

[UnknownIntrigue]

I try to stay up to date but sometimes I miss a game because the game itself does not seem nice or good enough to play. But when I see someone plays it and it is good, I tell myself "I should have bought the damn game".

[SafetyShattered]

I try to stay up to date but sometimes I miss a game because the game itself does not seem nice or good enough to play. But when I see someone plays it and it is good, I tell myself "I should have bought the damn game".

 

Oh yeah, i know that feel lol. It makes you feel like crap afterwords >.<

[UnknownIntrigue]

Oh yeah, i know that feel lol. It makes you feel like crap afterwords >.<

yeah. Or when somone loses your top game that you have lent them.

[SafetyShattered]

yeah. Or when somone loses your top game that you have lent them.

 

 

Oh yeah....that is just the worse thing imaginable. That's why i don't let my friends borrow games anymore. Either they lose it, or a couple months later i ask for it back and they're like "oh that's mine" and you're just like "dude what the hell i let you borrow it" and that crap goes on into a huge debate. Better off just saying no in the first place i've found.

 

Oh, and OT: Halo(on original xbox not remake) I completed it a while back, but i took a pretty long hiatus from it.

[UnknownIntrigue]

Oh yeah....that is just the worse thing imaginable. That's why i don't let my friends borrow games anymore. Either they lose it, or a couple months later i ask for it back and they're like "oh that's mine" and you're just like "dude what the hell i let you borrow it" and that crap goes on into a huge debate. Better off just saying no in the first place i've found.

 

Oh, and OT: Halo(on original xbox not remake) I completed it a while back, but i took a pretty long hiatus from it.

exactly

 

 

because it somehow became boring to me. I mean repetitious.

[FlyingSquirrel]

I took a break from Deadly Premonition. Might go back to it eventually. I don't know that it fits into the category of "supposed to be awesome" so much as intriguingly bizarre and "you have to play this to believe it exists." Which it is, but the long dialogue cutscenes are really a deterrent for me. If I'm going to be playing this weird FBI agent, I'd like at least some say in *how* I choose to make him weird, but instead the dialogue seems mostly automatic, and I didn't feel like I was actually investigating, just going around to different locations to click on a few objects and occasionally triggering a non-interactive dialogue scene. (And occasionally traveling to some alternate reality where zombies attack me, of course.)

[Reorte]

exactly
 

 
because it somehow became boring to me. I mean repetitious.

I gave up on that one too. It started well but after a few buggy saves I couldn't muster the effort to replay the bits I needed to from the last good save. Everything being a tatty mess wore thin after a while too. I guess it was all to do with the atmosphere but I couldn't help thinking that a few people wouldn't be living in utter filth.

[Dermain]

Lost Odyssey

 

I heard good things, but I just got bored.  I've played plenty of turn based combat games, but for some reason this game just didn't do it for me.

 

This...so this. I got it from a recommendation from a friend I trusted (at the time) about video games, and then this steaming pile came along. The combat was uninspired, the protagonist was facepalm worthy stereotyped, and the story was so banal I stopped playing it 15 minutes in. 

 

The other game he recommended was Bioshock, and I was equally unimpressed. 

 

Alan Wake. Loved everything but the gameplay never evolved. Will finish it someday.

 

I forget why I stopped playing it, but I did.

Skyrim... technically. I beat the game (twice?), but never came close to hitting most of the content or even the places. Too much grinding through useless loot and meaningless places, struggling to make real money for real things of use. If I play it, I only do one of the major sub-faction plotlines appropriate for my build.

 

I never finished FFX, but only because I could never beat the final boss and I couldn't stand the grinding. Got to the boss at least three times though.

 

FFXII, however, I dropped completely. Too many boring sidequests and such, and the plot-driving characters never caught my interest.

 

I have never beat the main quest of Skyrim. It makes me sad sometimes, and then I try to do it and I fall asleep. 

 

I have only beaten two FF games, 4 and 9. I got to the final boss of VII before I stopped playing, same with VIII, 1, 2, 3, X, XII (story was laughable in that too), and never touched XIII etc.

 

No, I mean: I teach history. I get paid for it. I enjoy historical stuff. My friends believed that because of that, I would enjoy the AC games because they, too, involve "historical stuff". Except, y'know, not.

 

I just put up with the games because I'm awed that they were able to (possibly) recreate the cities as they were. I always wondered why buildings had those weird wooden climbing parts on them (the 2x4 looking pieces that jut from the towers) until I saw a picture of one of the buildings. The story is on par with Dan Brown's conspiracy crap, but it is overall decent enough to overlook historical inaccuracies. 

 

I have never finished Dragon's Dogma, I intend to at some point...but it just got a bit too tedious. 

 

I got to the last chapter of Witcher 2 before I stopped caring.

[UnknownIntrigue]