If our warden became king or queen of Ferelden in Origins, will we get some information about how their reign went? Ferelden better or worst with them in charge? Did their disappearance in 9:40 throw the country into chaos? The status of the Warden Order in Amaranthine? Or does this all depend on our epilogue slides with the rest being left to player imagination?
Warden King/Queen
#1
Posté 20 juin 2014 - 06:41
#2
Posté 20 juin 2014 - 06:57
The Warden is just the person Alistair/Anora bangs. They don't have -THAT- much power.
It's only if the aforementioned die that The Warden becomes ruler of the kingdom.
#3
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Posté 20 juin 2014 - 07:41
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The Warden is just the person Alistair/Anora bangs. They don't have -THAT- much power.
It's only if the aforementioned die that The Warden becomes ruler of the kingdom.
King/Queen-Consort of Ferelden, Heir to the Terynir of Highever, potentially Teryn(a) of Gwaren, Arl(essa) of Amaranthine, and Warden-Commander of the Ferelden. Nope, not powerful at all... ![]()
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#4
Posté 20 juin 2014 - 07:42
King/Queen-Consort of Ferelden, Heir to the Terynir of Highever, potentially Teryn(a) of Gwaren, Arl(essa) of Amaranthine, and Warden-Commander of the Ferelden. Nope, not powerful at all...
You'd still lose every argument to the actual king/queen.
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Posté 20 juin 2014 - 07:45
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You'd still lose every argument to the actual king/queen.
Ferelden isn't an absolute monarchy. The Landsmeet gives the thumbs up/down at court. And since the HN Warden can own about 33% of Ferelden by the end of the game guess who has the biggest vote?
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#6
Posté 20 juin 2014 - 10:12
I'm curious about this, too. I have a Cousland who is married to Alistair and she was definitely the stronger personality of the two. I can see her ruling while Alistair is the face of their government.
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#7
Posté 20 juin 2014 - 10:15
King/Queen-Consort of Ferelden, Heir to the Terynir of Highever, potentially Teryn(a) of Gwaren, Arl(essa) of Amaranthine, and Warden-Commander of the Ferelden. Nope, not powerful at all...
Aka the Lannisters/Starks
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#9
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 11:38
You'd still lose every argument to the actual king/queen.
Unless the king is Alistair, as someone already pointed out. The guy is a complete cream puff. I mean that in the best way possible.
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#10
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 02:09
Here we go again with the headcanon fantasies.
''My Warden was such a strong woman, she dun't let Alistair tell her nothing no-how! She was the real power!''
''But my Warden was a wizened old mage, who became Anora's most trusted advisor and made the kitten the national mascot of Ferelden!''
''My Warden was a gay dwarf, who used astrology to determine...''
Reality check: IF the Warden makes an appearance, there are only going to be a handful of very generic story variations. I'd bet that even if you didn't step through the mirror, your Warden ''mysteriously vanished'' from Ferelden at some point after DAII. This is Bioware. There was no all-human Council in Mass Effect. Learn from experience.
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#11
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 02:31
Ferelden isn't an absolute monarchy. The Landsmeet gives the thumbs up/down at court. And since the HN Warden can own about 33% of Ferelden by the end of the game guess who has the biggest vote?
I can already hear the "Rains of the Bannorn" after each Landsmeet ![]()
During which, the HN and Fergus Cousland fistbump.
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#12
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 02:53
I prefer drunkard Alistair as Loghain was way to good a General to just kill. Making him a Warden puts a leash on him he can never get rid of.
#13
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Posté 21 juin 2014 - 03:38
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Here we go again with the headcanon fantasies.
Reality check: IF the Warden makes an appearance, there are only going to be a handful of very generic story variations. I'd bet that even if you didn't step through the mirror, your Warden ''mysteriously vanished'' from Ferelden at some point after DAII. This is Bioware. There was no all-human Council in Mass Effect. Learn from experience.
Except for the fact that HN Warden becoming King/Queen-Consort of Ferelden, Heir to the Terynir of Highever, potentially Teryn(a) of Gwaren, Arl(essa) of Amaranthine, and Warden-Commander of Ferelden are all legitimate choices within the game (import flags and all) and is no where near head canon.
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#14
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 03:46
Except for the fact that HN Warden becoming King/Queen-Consort of Ferelden, Heir to the Terynir of Highever, potentially Teryn(a) of Gwaren, Arl(essa) of Amaranthine, and Warden-Commander of Ferelden are all legitimate choices within the game (import flags and all) and is no where near head canon.
I think most of it would just get treated as references. Most imported decisions in Bioware games don't have impacted consequences. Dead teammates are replaced by understudies in ME, dead companions are not actually dead just fainted, the codex was just wrong in DA, destroying the collector or not has no actual impact in the sequel, most of the impacted choices in DAO are either passed off as references or just some mini sidequests. I love Bioware games, but they don't have impacted choices in their games. Even if the warden becomes king or queen consort, it wouldn't matter since he/she disappears and likely wouldn't have any strong impact in this game besides some references from NPCs or some mini sidequests related to warden being king/queen consort. It's not head-canon, but it's not like making those choices would affect the story in anyway.
#15
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 05:47
I wonder how the King/Queen situation will be handled in DAI because I might be wrong but doesn't The whole Consort thing only really apply to Male Couslands marrying Anora since she said they would be her Consort only. Granted in DA2 Aveline does call them King Cousland so who knows.
Where as Female Couslands who married Alistair are the Queen of Ferelden they are recognized by the Epilogue Sliders and Teegan in DA2 as The Queen not a consort.
And the warden can possibly be the most powerful person in Ferelden besides the King/Queen of course but still they can be and I hope B-Ware takes that into consideration when bringing them back because all of my Cousland Wardens were all made the most powerful people in Ferelden.
My Male Cousland
Prince Consort
Teryn of Gwaren
Arl of Amaranthine
Commander of The Grey
Heir to Highever Teryn
My Female Cousland
Queen of Ferelden
Teryn of Gwaren
Arlessa of Amaranthine
Commander of The Grey
Heir to Highever
The Warden being brought back has the potental to screw up alot I know that after we beat the game the Character went back to being B-Wares thats fine but our individual gamesaves/"World States" those are still ours.
I hope The Keep will be deep enough to accurately bring our complete World States to DAI.
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#16
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:04
#17
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:08
#18
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:11
I wonder if ferelden will have an heir if the male warden married Anora (or if female warden ended with political marriage and zevran romanced)
That would actually be really great. BUT, Ferelden would only have an Heir in the former Case. The latter would mean that the Queen had a half elven Bastard.
#19
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:13
Far as I know you're only a Queen/King's consort that is to say you married into the family of a reigning King, or Queen, but don't hold the sovereign power you'd otherwise have received through inheirtance. You share the same rank and monarchical titles with that of your partner, but don't hold any political or military authority. That would be a Queen/King regnant
Anora appoints you military leader though.
#20
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:14
I don't recall Anora being mentioned by name in DA2.That might mean nothing, or it might be relevant to the above.
#21
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:30
Well, you can't really rule by your own right when marrying into a reigning family. Hence why Henri of Denmark is still Prince consort and always will be. I've never heard of someone being declared Queen or King when married into the family. Speaking on behalf of my history knowledge anyway not of Dragon Age lore.
The whole King Cousland or Queen Cousland is probably just a symbol for the Fereldan's adoration of him/her but isn't necessarily an official title.
When does Anora appoint you Commander of the Ferelden militia? I never did a playthrough where I married her at all so yeah.
#22
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Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:33
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When does Anora appoint you Commander of the Ferelden militia? I never did a playthrough where I married her at all so yeah.
At the end of the Landsmeet, if she was chosen as ruler (with or without King-Consort) or she rules jointly with Alistair and Loghain is still alive. In every other scenario Alistair is the de facto Commander.
#23
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:35
At the end of the Landsmeet.
Will check that out on Youtube then some time soon since I was planning on getting back to the game.
Just realized that Alistair does this too but nevertheless it doesn't change what I said. He/She appoints you as general to lead the Ferelden army to victory against the Darkspawn due to you being a Warden, experience, skills, taints, blah, blah, but I doubt it stretches out beyond that.
Especially because Alistair, or the other one, names you Commander of the armies regardless if you marry them. At least that's what I recall Alistair doing now.
#24
Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:37
#25
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Posté 21 juin 2014 - 06:42
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Will check that out on Youtube then some time soon since I was planning on getting back to the game.
Just realized that Alistair does this too but nevertheless it doesn't change what I said. He/She appoints you as general to lead the Ferelden army to victory against the Darkspawn due to you being a Warden, experience, skills, taints, blah, blah, but I doubt it stretches out beyond that.
That's debatable. I don't see Anora or Alistair relinquishing command from HN Warden with at least three titles and experience if certain choices were made during the epilogue (becoming Chancellor). Mages, Elves, and Dwarf Commoner might not be so lucky.
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